'Be very careful when dealing with police'

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By JIM TUTTLE Staff writer -------------------- If an interaction with a police officer becomes confrontational, silence is the best course of action, according to at least one criminal defense attorney.
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sINbAD

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Sounds like the Ron Doyle case.State troopers knocked his door in, and drug him out of house.By the way what ever happened to that story. Need a follow up, was that little dandy settled out of court?
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Great article...sounds to me like the officer in miss Taylors case stepped way over the line and needs to be punished and apologize to her for his rational behavior.
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Gary Blanda wrote:
The follow-up article should have the headlines: "Be Very Careful When Dealing With Attorneys, As They Will Suck Every Penny Outta Yer Pocket."
Like Don Corleone said, "A lawyer with a briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns."
Funnier thing is, he's on the defense side. Of course he's going to do what he does (for money), Defend. It's almost like prostitution. A lawyer sells his soul to defend the guilty. Heck, she pled guilty to this, didnt' she? He'd have defended her for the right price. It's almost like a crime when you have an attorney reaching into your pockets. None of them are in search of the truth.
I believe those concerned should contact the victim and see if we can retain this lawyer for her, his returning to confront her for complainiong speaks volumes, and entering her home, SETTLEMENT!!!!!!
BS Walker

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I agree with attorney Conrad. if you're a law abiding tax paying member of society you should expect to be able to drink a beer or even several on your own porch, without being hassled by the man
However, if you're loud, drunken and belligerent, most of your rent is paid by HUD, you buy your food with your trusty little yellow Access card and your idea of paying taxes is when you receive your "earned" income tax credit, your results may vary.
REALLY

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Conrad, a private attorney, was the only person contacted who was willing to discuss the issues.

When asked to discuss general state law as it pertains to several aspects of the story, Pennsylvania attorney general spokesman Nils Fredricksen said it "wouldn't be appropriate" for his office to comment on Pennsylvania law.

All American citizens should be well aware of their rights when they are dealing with law enforcement.

I wonder how many agencies/people were contacted? Why wouldn’t it be appropriate to discuss PA law, when a public venue would like to print it, seemingly in order to educate the public on what is lawful and what is not? That’s part of the problem with this great Commonwealth state.

Of course we should all be aware or our rights when dealing with situations. But not everyone has the resources or such to locate said information. I don’t understand why it has to be a hassle to get this information. Only one person was willing to discuss it. It sounds like when the P.O. attempted to contact the proper office to obtain the info. They received the same run around common to this area, with no results as usual.

To you Mr. Blanda—The claim is she pled guilty to avoid any other issue. She admittedly was not as nice a person in her younger years and I’m sure she wanted to keep herself on the “good side” of life. Obviously she wasn’t previously drunk and obnoxious or the Officer on the bicycle would have called her out on it.

Jeff—What ‘valuable evidence’ would have been lost? It was a brief argument. What was she going in her house to hide? Maybe she was just trying to avoid any further confrontation from a hot headed Officer.

Finally, BS Walker—The home she lives in is/was her mother’s home which I’m pretty sure her mother paid for at least 20 years ago. That family has lived there every since I can remember. HUD does not pay their rent. I also happen to know that she has a job as well. You shouldn’t be profiling based on location or race. Be nice. As I previously pointed out, she must not have been loud and belligerent or the Officer she held a conversation with shortly prior would have done something about it, so I think it should have been ok for her to be having a beer on her porch.
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There's a reason that most competent lawyers won't voice an opinion to this publication. This is a one sided story because as always the police are forced to stand mute and take all of Jim Tuttle's abuse. They know that they would be speaking to unproven facts and that Tuttle would most likely take whatever statements they make out of context in an attempt to further defame a police officer.

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Why you should never talk to the police, even if you’re innocent...



Very compelling.
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Hillbilly mentality from hillbilly cops.
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the VERMIN at the public opinion really need to make an effort to print a story about some local police officers who risk their lives on a daily basis, write some real life stories of local police officers who have risked their lives for those in the public that they don't even know.

Instead of trying so hard to dig up constant dirt on local cops, make a concerted effort to write about some of the actions these officers take that you VERMIN at the public opinion wouldn't have the guts to do.

as you can read, i am very pro police,as i have several family members on police forces on the east coast, and yes, many police officers are bad apples, but this paper is just ruthless.
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For all cop haters, what do you think our society would be like without any cops?
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Worse. But thats no excuse to abuse power.
Are you kidding me

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Try to do that job yourselves before criticizing. These men and women RISK their LIVES to keep us safe. Yet, they get no respect. Try seeing the "ugly" side of life 24/7 before you start to point fingers.
Then, think of the families at home. The children on any given day, may have just kissed their mom or day goodbye for the last time because some scum bag decides to shoot him or her.
This paper has now stooped to the lowest of lows. To turn on the very people who keep you safe while you sleep at night. Tuttle is no better than the scum bags committing the crimes.
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Dan the Man wrote:
Why you should never talk to the police, even if you’re innocent...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6wXkI4t7nucXX
Very compelling.
You are so rihgt this is a "must watch" for anyone. Very much the eye-opener
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This i8s opinion not news. It shouldn't be included in the news section of any publication. No wonder folks have no faith in traditional "nhews" sources.
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I agree with this philosophy. Just keep your yap shut, but also, keep that video/audio recorder rolling as well.
Dan the Man

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Wow, the reactionary right is out in force today.

These are the same people who would gladly trade their liberties for some temporary security. In their tiny, little, black and white world, all police are good, none of them ever abuse their authority, and whatever someone in authority says to do we must all do unquestioningly.

In their tiny little black and white world then don't want to ever consider the fact that abuses DO happen and it's the responsibility of every patriotic American to call it out when we see it.

Those who sacrifice their liberties for temporary security deserve neither. I hope none of the blindly loyal wingnuts who are posting here this morning are ever the subject of a cop abusing his authority at the expense of their rights.
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Cooper Bug wrote:
Great article...sounds to me like the officer in miss Taylors case stepped way over the line and needs to be punished and apologize to her for his rational behavior.
If his behavior was so rational, why does he have to apologize?? hmmmmm.....
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stormcage wrote:
<quoted text>You are so rihgt this is a "must watch" for anyone. Very much the eye-opener
Yeah, and this is a "must read" for anyone who thinks that a police officer's job is easy. I doubt if any of you haters on this forum have the nutz to put on a uniform, since this may one day eventually happen to you if you did.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/18983600/detail.html
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This is another example of ignorance, you have no right to sit on your porch and be disorderly period. This attorney is in error of his statments and should take a refresher course on law.
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Gary Blanda wrote:
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Yeah, and this is a "must read" for anyone who thinks that a police officer's job is easy. I doubt if any of you haters on this forum have the nutz to put on a uniform, since this may one day eventually happen to you if you did.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/18983600/detail.html
Nobody's denying that being a cop is a terrifically challenging job. But you can't seriously be suggesting that because that's true that we should overlook the ones who abuse their authority, are you? Or are you saying that cops never abuse their authority?

Just trying to get a handle on your position. It's never made any sense to me at all why the good cops aren't the first ones jumping on the bad ones, because when one person crosses the line it makes you all look bad.

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