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Haywood hospital board weighs options | NEWS | Asheville CITIZEN

There are 216 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Feb 28, 2008, titled Haywood hospital board weighs options | NEWS | Asheville CITIZEN. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Haywood Regional Medical Center has enough money to stay open for at least two months without Medicare and Medicaid funding, the hospital board's chairwoman said Thursday night.

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Miss Daisy

Greenville, SC

#205 Feb 29, 2008
BadMojo- Thank you, and no offense taken. I did agree with your comments, and furthermore, this was gratifying to read:

When Mission was found to need improvements by DFS the CEO Joe Damore e-mailed every employee in the system laying out the problems, the solutions and what was at stake. He stated there is no higher priority than rectifying the areas in need of improvement and the organization fixed what was wrong in a timely manner.

Maybe I should contact this Damore fellow.
HAYWOOD COUNTY RESIDENT

Greenville, SC

#206 Mar 1, 2008
randal wrote:
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I've never met a anyone from Texas that didn't sincerely believe that everything in that state was bigger and better. If it's so great, why did you leave and more importantly, why don't you go back?
YOU GO RANDALL. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT MR. PHYSICIAN FROM TEXAS GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME THE H--- FROM.!!!!
applehead

Charlotte, NC

#207 Mar 1, 2008
BDD 1 wrote:
<quoted text> i agree with u assman , staffing is the issue
staffing is the problem in every department at that hospital and in all businesses thru out America. cut back..cut back....

“You can't fix stupid”

Since: Feb 08

Mayberry

#208 Mar 1, 2008
Working Girl wrote:
I'm tired of hearing everyones opinion. Everyone has one and most of them are based on rumor, not fact. The fact is the community and people passing through it needs this hospital. We can all see there are problems and we all know they need to be fixed. Unless anyone posting today has any pull with county commisioners there is not a lot you can do. Keep your opinion to yourself and let the people do their job so we can get this hospital running the way it should be.
Remember all people and all businesses healthcare or otherwise make mistakes. Lets get behind those who are trying to make things right at this hospital so we have a place to employ the families of this county and a place to go to when we need quality healthcare.
PS If your not from Haywood County why do you feel the need to comment on the happenings of it ????
I couldn't have said it better myself. People are so concerned with who is to blame, accusations, and finger pointing, that they are forgetting that as a community, our economy and healthcare (not to mention day to day lives of a huge number of citizens)is at stake. Lets work together to find a solution and fix the problem. We can decide who is to blame after the problem is corrected and our community is strong again. People also do not seem to remember the fact that no one, no business is 100% perfect. Is everyone completely satisfied with customer service at every store they go to every time they go? How often do we go to a restaurant and see a score posted that is less than 100%?

“You can't fix stupid”

Since: Feb 08

Mayberry

#209 Mar 1, 2008
Julie wrote:
Putting the Blame one Dr Nancy Freeman is not the case. She is a fine, outstanding doctor and if you want the hospital taking care of she will stand up and take charge. I have seen her take action before some Male Doctors At HRMC (I was previously employeed). There is alot we need to know, alot we need to learn, but blaming isn't helping. I believe the people that casued the problem are gone and or will be.
BUT, to another complaint yes we might be considered rural, but we aren't that rural. The hospital does not need to close its doors, because there are ALOT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO COULD POTENTIAL LOSE THEIR JOBS do to this.
Yes, take care of Mr. Rice (never liked him), shirley harris, and nurses who didn't comply but as for Dr freeman and the innocent workers leave them alone!!!!!
A fine, outstanding doctor compared to what?

“You can't fix stupid”

Since: Feb 08

Mayberry

#210 Mar 1, 2008
Something will work wrote:
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Hey granny or grandpa as the case may be. Why don't you fan the fires of hysteria even higher. Or better yet, just dump a few gallons on the hospital if you want it to go so very badly.
Are you an executive of BC&BS? No, I think not. You actually haven't heard anything other than what one of your cronies said over an extra fat-rich biscuit at Hardees.
Blue Cross isn't pull out!!@ Someone-that means you-are trying to fan the flames of doubt and mistrust, based on information heard over a biscuit or perhaps a coffee at the local watering stores. A veritable accurate source of important information....Very nice profile!!! You have a most excellent body, and a sense of fun. I look forward to being part of your network. Good luck, have fun, play safe better than CNN or FOX
Do all the good people who use the HRMC, work at the center, have family at the center the curtsy of spreading you worthless gossip. If you want to listen to the grapevine, dial into the signal that has your own personal gossip on it.
Or at least site the source of this interesting piece of information! Let's see what a good story you make up out of that one.
So do you feel like an ass now? And I'll see you at Hardee's in the morning for biscuits.

“You can't fix stupid”

Since: Feb 08

Mayberry

#211 Mar 1, 2008
NC Reader wrote:
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I don’t know if you live in Haywood County or perhaps did at sometime. This hospital has had a poor reputation for many years. While I agree that it is important to be positive and supportive, I think it is even more important to prevent lives from being lost due to a sub-standard medical facility being allowed to remain open. Perhaps this isn’t the best time to “keep criticism to yourself”. This is a serious problem. The citizens of Haywood and surrounding counties SHOULD be vocal about their concerns right now, to not do so borders on the cowardly. Shame on you.
I do not know if you live in Haywood county or have at one time either. Your post says Asheville. I don't believe that's in Haywood county. And what does living in Haywood county have to do with Civil-ian's post anyway. As I understand it, all the poster was trying to say is that perhaps during this time of distress, the citizens of Haywood county should stand behind it's only hospital and instead of placing blame and accusations, perhaps we should come together to acknowledge and fix the problem. I agree with Civil-ian 100%. I think loyalty is an excellent characteristic that everyone should have to their employeer, county, state, country, etc. We all applaud you're morals in wanting to prevent the loss of lives by a "sub-standard medical facility". So, I'm sure you are relieved to know that no lives have been lost at HRMC due to lack of care. But since you are so concerned about it and have been for years, why haven't you taken your own advise before now and "been vocal about your concerns"? Are you calling yourself a coward? So the shame, NC Reader, is apparantly on you. However I do agree with you about Dr. Freeman. It seems that you, along with too many other unfortunate citizens have had to deal with her one too many times.
PONDER ON THIS

Savannah, GA

#212 Mar 1, 2008
adele17 wrote:
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I couldn't have said it better myself. People are so concerned with who is to blame, accusations, and finger pointing, that they are forgetting that as a community, our economy and healthcare (not to mention day to day lives of a huge number of citizens)is at stake. Lets work together to find a solution and fix the problem. We can decide who is to blame after the problem is corrected and our community is strong again. People also do not seem to remember the fact that no one, no business is 100% perfect. Is everyone completely satisfied with customer service at every store they go to every time they go? How often do we go to a restaurant and see a score posted that is less than 100%?
I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT THE IRONIC THING IS THE HOSPITAL CAFETERIA'S SCORE WAS 102%.
Act Fast

Lincolnton, NC

#213 Mar 1, 2008
Can Carolina Medical Centers buy HRMC , then w will not have a monopoly in WNC. And yes Things can only get better. Replace the board, Freeman,Love,Lipham, these folks will never have the trust of staff and community after this fiascal.
zzzzmd

Little Valley, NY

#214 Mar 1, 2008
youre ignorant wrote:
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You apparently have room to talk about useless considering that you are. This county can't afford to lose its hospital. It is the second largest employer in the county, with over 900 employees that will all lose their jobs if the hospital were to close. We have an entire school system, workers of Haywood County, nursing homes, elderly, and less fortunate people who need and depend on this hospital. You can go to any hospital you want to and there are going to be errors. That's because nobody is perfect. Sure we have issues. But we are going to work on them until we get back on our feet. In the mean time, I hope people like you don't come to our hospital because they don't need your attitude. So you go sit your large butt on your large couch and be useless like the rest of your ignorant species. We'll have the last laugh.
A lousy hospital is better than no hospital??

Get over it! People can get other jobs.
NC Reader

Asheville, NC

#215 Mar 3, 2008
adele17 wrote:
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I do not know if you live in Haywood county or have at one time either. Your post says Asheville. I don't believe that's in Haywood county. And what does living in Haywood county have to do with Civil-ian's post anyway. As I understand it, all the poster was trying to say is that perhaps during this time of distress, the citizens of Haywood county should stand behind it's only hospital and instead of placing blame and accusations, perhaps we should come together to acknowledge and fix the problem. I agree with Civil-ian 100%. I think loyalty is an excellent characteristic that everyone should have to their employeer, county, state, country, etc. We all applaud you're morals in wanting to prevent the loss of lives by a "sub-standard medical facility". So, I'm sure you are relieved to know that no lives have been lost at HRMC due to lack of care. But since you are so concerned about it and have been for years, why haven't you taken your own advise before now and "been vocal about your concerns"? Are you calling yourself a coward? So the shame, NC Reader, is apparantly on you. However I do agree with you about Dr. Freeman. It seems that you, along with too many other unfortunate citizens have had to deal with her one too many times.
Adele,

If you think this is about "placing blame and accusations" you have totally missed the point. This is about holding people responsible for their jobs. This is about accountability. Are you held accoutable for YOUR job? I know that I am held accountable for the job I am paid to do. This hospital has serious problems that have now been made obvious through state inspections. Should we just look the other way? If your child's daycare was determined to be below standard, would you be afraid of hurting someone's feelings and therefore not voice concerns? If your bank lost your life savings, would you not have some very serious questions for their management? Of course you would. Okay - now, your local hospital has come under fire from the state for failing very important quality inspections. Are you seriously telling me that you don't think we need some answers from HRMC management? What do you think they are being paid to do????
NC Reader

Asheville, NC

#216 Mar 3, 2008
adele17 wrote:
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I couldn't have said it better myself. People are so concerned with who is to blame, accusations, and finger pointing, that they are forgetting that as a community, our economy and healthcare (not to mention day to day lives of a huge number of citizens)is at stake. Lets work together to find a solution and fix the problem. We can decide who is to blame after the problem is corrected and our community is strong again. People also do not seem to remember the fact that no one, no business is 100% perfect. Is everyone completely satisfied with customer service at every store they go to every time they go? How often do we go to a restaurant and see a score posted that is less than 100%?
Adele,

Again - you are missing the point. Of course no business is 100% perfect; I haven't read ONE post on here that claims every business is 100% perfect, so who are you arguing with????

HRMC is not your local Shoney's restaurant; IT IS A HOSPITAL!!!! And I know that no hospital is perfect - but, Adele, HRMC is BEYOND not perfect. They have FAILED to comply with quality standards not once, but twice. The problems are so severe that the NC Divison of Health Services has pulled medicare & medicaid funds from HRMC. I'm not saying the problems can't be fixed; I hope they can. But I am absolutely dumbfounded by your refusal to see the importance of this issue. By the way, I am a Haywood County citizen; I live in Canton. And I have been affected personally by the poor practices of HRMC. I hope you will realize that you and the rest of the community do have a right to demand quality from HRMC.
mike from haywood county

AOL

#217 Mar 4, 2008
Proud Employee of HRMC wrote:
Not the time to blame but to fix, only the uninformed or the uncaring which is not the medical profession would ever make a statement that the hospital should close. 
I have been in health care for over thirty years, we have always been under paid and under appreciated, but we are there for the that need of our services. (We CARE)
Do we (did we make mistakes) yes, are we covering up the issue no.  Personally as an employee and a proud employee of this facility - if you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
If you can help by being supportive by praying, saying a encouraging word and most of all not being so negative and opinionated about something that the majority of the doom sayers are saying about our hospital (it exists for the people) do not know anything about, other that what you hear said or have read in news reports and suddenly become an immediate expert on heath care, shutup, for we that know do not give a damn about what you say or even what your opinion may be.
We will survive, we will be better - it will take time, time to heal, time to learn - but believe me when I say - we care and when you need us we will be there.
President John F. Kennedy said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what can you do for your country".
Due to the seriousness of this situation, "Ask not what your hospital can do for you, but what can you do for your hospital".
This is very important during this time of difficulty and states the importance of all staying together for one central goal - get back to full operation as soon as possible.
The last thing a nurse can say is that they are underpai. I have been in nursing for 15 years and I make a good living. The problem is the quality of nurses coming out of school. They are not prepared to do what needs to be done. If they would spend less time complaining and more time working things would have been different.
adele17

Candler, NC

#218 Mar 5, 2008
NC Reader wrote:
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Adele,
Again - you are missing the point. Of course no business is 100% perfect; I haven't read ONE post on here that claims every business is 100% perfect, so who are you arguing with????
HRMC is not your local Shoney's restaurant; IT IS A HOSPITAL!!!! And I know that no hospital is perfect - but, Adele, HRMC is BEYOND not perfect. They have FAILED to comply with quality standards not once, but twice. The problems are so severe that the NC Divison of Health Services has pulled medicare & medicaid funds from HRMC. I'm not saying the problems can't be fixed; I hope they can. But I am absolutely dumbfounded by your refusal to see the importance of this issue. By the way, I am a Haywood County citizen; I live in Canton. And I have been affected personally by the poor practices of HRMC. I hope you will realize that you and the rest of the community do have a right to demand quality from HRMC.
Thank you for clearing up the fact that HRMC is not Shoney's. Now I can stop going to the hospital for an all american burger. I beleive it is you that is missing the point I was trying to make. And I guess you would think that I refuse to see the seriousness in this situation because if you don't think a situation is serious you would assume no one else thinks it is either. But, since I realize how serious the situation is and how much is at risk, I was trying to point out that everyone bashing the hospital now is not helping to make it any better and that we should work together and support the hospital so that changes can be made for citizens to ensure they get quality healthcare. And I would say the same if it were my child's daycare or my bank, that if there is a problem I'd want to have the support of others in the community to have faith in the business and work together to ensure problems were fixed and for it to be the best it can be. I see this as much more productive than telling everyone who will listen how awful it is and it needs to be closed. And I don't recall saying anything about looking the other way, just that lets work on getting the problem fixed. When I hear people arguing over who is responsible for this, some say the doctors, some say the nurses, some say the board, some say the government, etc, it sounds to me like placing blame. Hopefully you are not dumbfounded now, but just plain dumb.
adele17

Candler, NC

#219 Mar 5, 2008
NC Reader wrote:
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Adele,
If you think this is about "placing blame and accusations" you have totally missed the point. This is about holding people responsible for their jobs. This is about accountability. Are you held accoutable for YOUR job? I know that I am held accountable for the job I am paid to do. This hospital has serious problems that have now been made obvious through state inspections. Should we just look the other way? If your child's daycare was determined to be below standard, would you be afraid of hurting someone's feelings and therefore not voice concerns? If your bank lost your life savings, would you not have some very serious questions for their management? Of course you would. Okay - now, your local hospital has come under fire from the state for failing very important quality inspections. Are you seriously telling me that you don't think we need some answers from HRMC management? What do you think they are being paid to do????
It's kind of funny that you ask me who I am arguing with. I was not arguing with anyone until now, but reminding people that most places we go don't have a perfect 100 score and maybe if they look at it that way, they would not be so afraid to go the hospital. And what do you mean am I seriously telling you we don't need answers from management? I suggest you go back and reread my post because nowhere in it did I say I'm telling you we don't need answers from management. Not sure where you came up with that. Maybe you should stop arguing about imaginary posts.

Since: Feb 08

Lincolnton, NC

#220 Mar 5, 2008
BLUEFIN wrote:
Agree with so many of you that Nancy Freeman must go. Lest we forget recent history, it was she who rallied the Board to support David Rice in ousting the emergency physicians, against the wishes of the Medical Staff and the Haywood community at large. She has knowingly supported a corrupt and deceitful administration, apparently beguiled by the lure of power and prestige. She has demonstrated an inability or at least an unwillingness to listen and learn. I wish Nancy well in her journey through this life and beyond, but to allow her to continue in her position is a travesty...and makes a mockery of accountability and ethical standards. Nancy! Resign! Please!
Right on target. Most telling is her quote concerning the Feb 12 letter, which Rich shared with her. She said she didn't take it to the full Board because she was "waiting on direction from administration." She obviously does not understand that the job of the board, and especially her job as chair of that board, is to oversee administration. Administration works for the board, not the other way around.

Our hospital doesn't need a President/CEO and a gaggle of vice-presidents with meaningless titles and even more meaningless job responsibilities. We need an Administrator, working for and answerable to a Board who make themselves a pain in the rear when it comes to knowing what is going on. We need a Director of Nursing who reports directly to the Administrator, not through a meaningless vice-president position created for political reasons.

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