2 sentenced in plot to kill Anders

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Two officers of the white supremacist Aryan Brotherhood of Texas have been sentenced to prison for plotting to murder a former Otero County sheriff's deputy and conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine.
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May 30, 2009
 
U.S. District Judge William P. Johnson on Thursday sentenced Samuel Zachary Arrington to 10 years in prison for his role in the conspiracy to kill Billy Anders and 11 years for the methamphetamine conspiracy conviction. The sentences will run concurrently.

Robert Guyton Cook was sentened to 15 years in prison on the same charges.

Ok let me get this straight. Arrington got 10 for cospiring to murder Anders, and Cook got the same.
Anders who DID MURDER got one year, and his murder was exicution style.
I guess justice ISNT equal for everyone. This proves that if one wears a badge the law is more lenient on them!!
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Yea right. He shot a handcuffed man. Cold blooded murder is what it was. The fact that the guy he killed was a scum bag does not make his actiona right.
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May 30, 2009
 
I applaud Billy Anders for taking out a member of the Aryan Brotherhood. This dude was a scum bag and deserved what he got.

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I applaud Billy Anders for taking out a member of the Aryan Brotherhood. This dude was a scum bag and deserved what he got.
Never said the guy Anders shot wasnt scum. What I did say is the justice syestem is screwed up. Anders served a mere year. If he wasnt wearing a badge he would be spending the rest of his life in prison. Anders, by shooting the AB the way he did is trash also.
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May 30, 2009
 
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Never said the guy Anders shot wasnt scum. What I did say is the justice syestem is screwed up. Anders served a mere year. If he wasnt wearing a badge he would be spending the rest of his life in prison. Anders, by shooting the AB the way he did is trash also.
I saw the devil in Big 5 today buying ice skates. I came home to read this, and we have agreed on 3 things now.

coincidence? I think not.
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May 30, 2009
 
Impact wrote:
U.S. District Judge William P. Johnson on Thursday sentenced Samuel Zachary Arrington to 10 years in prison for his role in the conspiracy to kill Billy Anders and 11 years for the methamphetamine conspiracy conviction. The sentences will run concurrently.
Robert Guyton Cook was sentened to 15 years in prison on the same charges.
Ok let me get this straight. Arrington got 10 for cospiring to murder Anders, and Cook got the same.
Anders who DID MURDER got one year, and his murder was exicution style.
I guess justice ISNT equal for everyone. This proves that if one wears a badge the law is more lenient on them!!
You are obivously a fool...Hope noone has to protect you or your children from scum...you wont allow it I am sure.
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U.S. District Judge William P. Johnson on Thursday sentenced Samuel Zachary Arrington to 10 years in prison for his role in the conspiracy to kill Billy Anders and 11 years for the methamphetamine conspiracy conviction. The sentences will run concurrently.
Robert Guyton Cook was sentened to 15 years in prison on the same charges.
Ok let me get this straight. Arrington got 10 for cospiring to murder Anders, and Cook got the same.
Anders who DID MURDER got one year, and his murder was exicution style.
I guess justice ISNT equal for everyone. This proves that if one wears a badge the law is more lenient on them!!
Right! You would think that law enforcement would have the ability to excercise better judgment in certain situations and "keep their heads" but that isn't what happened with this guy. I'm with you! He only did a year for his crime PLUS he wrote a dang book! If it sold, where'd the proceeds go? Did he donate the money to the family of the little girl or the pregnant woman who died? Damn skippy that the law is different if you wear a badge!!
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U.S. District Judge William P. Johnson on Thursday sentenced Samuel Zachary Arrington to 10 years in prison for his role in the conspiracy to kill Billy Anders and 11 years for the methamphetamine conspiracy conviction. The sentences will run concurrently.
Robert Guyton Cook was sentened to 15 years in prison on the same charges.
Ok let me get this straight. Arrington got 10 for cospiring to murder Anders, and Cook got the same.
Anders who DID MURDER got one year, and his murder was exicution style.
I guess justice ISNT equal for everyone. This proves that if one wears a badge the law is more lenient on them!!
Billy Anders is a great man who should have never been prosecuted to begin with for ACCIDENTALLY shooting a handcuffed violent criminal who had just minutes before murdered two people, and tried to kill Billy Anders. Blind insistence that Billy Anders murdered anyone is both ignorant and shows a lack of real world knowledge of such events.

PLUS Billy Anders was not convicted of murder anyway.

God Bless Billy Anders and everyone else who wears a badge or fights a fire.
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May 31, 2009
 
I saw were you can buy and read letters of Anders to the Village of Cloudcroft from prison. This guy Anders, thinks a lot of himself. He thinks that people should pay to read what he wrote from prison to the people of Cloudcroft.... yeah, right.

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May 31, 2009
 
Petrified wrote:
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Billy Anders is a great man who should have never been prosecuted to begin with for ACCIDENTALLY shooting a handcuffed violent criminal who had just minutes before murdered two people, and tried to kill Billy Anders. Blind insistence that Billy Anders murdered anyone is both ignorant and shows a lack of real world knowledge of such events.
PLUS Billy Anders was not convicted of murder anyway.
God Bless Billy Anders and everyone else who wears a badge or fights a fire.
Accidentally? I think not.
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Right! You would think that law enforcement would have the ability to excercise better judgment in certain situations and "keep their heads" but that isn't what happened with this guy. I'm with you! He only did a year for his crime PLUS he wrote a dang book! If it sold, where'd the proceeds go? Did he donate the money to the family of the little girl or the pregnant woman who died? Damn skippy that the law is different if you wear a badge!!
Let's be clear. Billy Anders killed the man who deliberately murdered the little girls mother, tried to kill the little girl, and did kill the sheriff deputy partner of Billy Anders all in the same event. The multi-convicted felon, the dead and unlamented Flippen, who caused all this, also tried to kill Billy Anders. Flippen fortunately failed in this and was arrested, finally, by Deputy Anders. In a later event a few minutes later Flippen was shot accidentally by Anders. That's it.

This was simple radio call to 911 gone bad, nothing more. That Billy Anders was forced into being prosecuted by the feds, a thing a spineless DA in Otero County happily went along with, speaks volumes about our poor values and weak wills, than it does to the heroic actions of Billy Anders.

Do I think Billy Anders should be writing books and making TV movies: No.

Of course, I am big on performing your duty in silence and also do not think the captain of that freighter that got taken by pirates a few weeks back (Richard Phillips) should be made into a hero either. He was just doing his duty, not very well in my mind, but one of his assigned duties was to bring the ship back to port safe and sound. He did not do that and nobody told him to get captured by pirates, either.

I think he should be billed for the costs of the rescue, not made into a celebrity.

Billy Anders being made into a celebrity is the larger outrage here in my mind.
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May 31, 2009
 
Can someone please recount the FACTS on this case for me? I know Anders responded up to Cloudcroft and his partner got shot, then they arrested this Flippen guy. Then AFTER the guy was arrested he was shot right?

Also what was the seperate incident which caused the handcuffed man to be shot? Was the officer going for his stun gun and accidently pulled the real gun? Please excuse my lack of knowledge but if someone could recount them that would be helpful.
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May 31, 2009
 
Curious wrote:
Can someone please recount the FACTS on this case for me? I know Anders responded up to Cloudcroft and his partner got shot, then they arrested this Flippen guy. Then AFTER the guy was arrested he was shot right?
Also what was the seperate incident which caused the handcuffed man to be shot? Was the officer going for his stun gun and accidently pulled the real gun? Please excuse my lack of knowledge but if someone could recount them that would be helpful.
The facts would be what were presented at trial. Anders opted not to go to trial. He pleaded guilty to intentionally killing Flippen. How much more simple could that be?
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Billy Anders did not 'murder' anyone and was not charged with murder either. A thing Mr. Morris and many other bleaters knows all too well.

What happened was that while responding to 911 Shots Fired call near Cloudcroft involving a multi-convicted violent felon (Flippen) who was engaged in both the Meth trade and an Aryan Brotherhood criminal gang activity. Mr. Flippen decided to spend an evening killing the mother of a young girl, by shooting her several times thru a closet door, and then turning the gun on the dead woman's little girl and making her dance to bullets shot near her feet while the child screamed for her dead mother.

Hence the 911 call from neighbors.

Upon arrival of the deputys Flippen was trying to load the dead body of the woman he just killed into the trunk of a car. Seeing the police Flippen ran back into the house and began shooting.

Deputy Anders and another deputy arrived at the scene. Heard shots being fired and circled the house with Anders going to the front door, and the other deputy (Bob Hedman)going to the back door; where he was promptly shot dead by having his head blown in two by Flippen who was trying to escape.

Flippen then ran to the front of the house and saw Anders and the little girl together, Flippen began firing at them both and in the ensuing gun battle, at point blank range, Flippen was mortally wounded and fell to the ground. Anders handcuffed him, as is policy, safeguarded the little girl, and went looking for his now dead partner lying in a pool of his own blood on the back porch.

Anders then returned to the front of the house, gun still in hand, and while trying to roll Flippen over accidentally fired a shot, which killed Flippen instantly. The shot was clearly inadvertent and fired as a result of sympathetic muscle reflex, not a desire of Anders to shoot Flippen again.

After an investigation by essentially the same group of people who put Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean in prison on false charges, as well as many other law enforcement officers, they tried to charge Mr. Anders with capital murder!

The local Otero County prosecutor at the time was anxious to placate the feds and make a name for himself pushed the charges as well.

Billy Anders never went to trial, but instead took a plea agreement to

Billy Anders made two mistakes. One, accidentally shooting Flippem, and the other taking a plea agreement to a lesser charge.

Mr. Morris and all the other limp wristed hand wringers know this story all too well, and since they are jealous of heroic people like Anders and Hedman they find it easier to prosecute and villify them instead of showing any honor or respect.

Perhaps Billy Anders was right in taking the plea as he knew the type of people who would be on the jury.

Bless Billy Anders and all the other law enforcers who do and die for an ungrateful and scared public.
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May 31, 2009
 
Brenda wrote:
Billy Anders did not 'murder' anyone and was not charged with murder either. A thing Mr. Morris and many other bleaters knows all too well.
What happened was that while responding to 911 Shots Fired call near Cloudcroft involving a multi-convicted violent felon (Flippen) who was engaged in both the Meth trade and an Aryan Brotherhood criminal gang activity. Mr. Flippen decided to spend an evening killing the mother of a young girl, by shooting her several times thru a closet door, and then turning the gun on the dead woman's little girl and making her dance to bullets shot near her feet while the child screamed for her dead mother.
Hence the 911 call from neighbors.
Upon arrival of the deputys Flippen was trying to load the dead body of the woman he just killed into the trunk of a car. Seeing the police Flippen ran back into the house and began shooting.
Deputy Anders and another deputy arrived at the scene. Heard shots being fired and circled the house with Anders going to the front door, and the other deputy (Bob Hedman)going to the back door; where he was promptly shot dead by having his head blown in two by Flippen who was trying to escape.
Flippen then ran to the front of the house and saw Anders and the little girl together, Flippen began firing at them both and in the ensuing gun battle, at point blank range, Flippen was mortally wounded and fell to the ground. Anders handcuffed him, as is policy, safeguarded the little girl, and went looking for his now dead partner lying in a pool of his own blood on the back porch.
Anders then returned to the front of the house, gun still in hand, and while trying to roll Flippen over accidentally fired a shot, which killed Flippen instantly. The shot was clearly inadvertent and fired as a result of sympathetic muscle reflex, not a desire of Anders to shoot Flippen again.
After an investigation by essentially the same group of people who put Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean in prison on false charges, as well as many other law enforcement officers, they tried to charge Mr. Anders with capital murder!
The local Otero County prosecutor at the time was anxious to placate the feds and make a name for himself pushed the charges as well.
Billy Anders never went to trial, but instead took a plea agreement to
Billy Anders made two mistakes. One, accidentally shooting Flippem, and the other taking a plea agreement to a lesser charge.
Mr. Morris and all the other limp wristed hand wringers know this story all too well, and since they are jealous of heroic people like Anders and Hedman they find it easier to prosecute and villify them instead of showing any honor or respect.
Perhaps Billy Anders was right in taking the plea as he knew the type of people who would be on the jury.
Bless Billy Anders and all the other law enforcers who do and die for an ungrateful and scared public.
You have a rather foul mouth and you are a liar. You are right and I don't think I said he was charged with murder though the facts of the case suggested 2nd degree murder as voluntary manslaughter is:

"Voluntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed upon a sudden quarrel or in the heat of passion."

Of course an ordinary citizen would have a hard time pressing forward such claim since the dead guy was handcuffed. Justifying the killing was never rendered by any court.

Interesting dynamic though. Flippen was never convicted of killing anyone yet he is fair game for killing. So what does that make the man convicted of killing?
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May 31, 2009
 
Michael, poor poor misfit Michael.

If you feel speaking the truth is being 'foul mouthed' then I guess Billy Anders was right to take the plea deal. A jury trial would have required a jury of peers. Since Mr. Anders, a 20 plus year veteram, courageous badge toter, and fine man would have had to find 12 people equally true, it would have been a long row to hoe.

Frankly, Mr. Flippen was ripe for killing. Had Deputy Anders simply broken his oath and walked up and killed Mr. Flippen it would have been absolutely justified. Had you done your part as a citizen and stuck up for a brave man who made a mistake, all would have been well. Had Flippen been kept in prison where he belonged we would not be where we are today.

But NO! People like you who cower in the back bedroom of your locked house and call 911 to check things out and make it all better, then emerge from your hidey-hole to second guess how and what was done are the blame for this situation.

You should be ashamed. You are not. There is the problem.

As to what it makes Mr. Anders, sir, it makes him a hero.
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You have a rather foul mouth and you are a liar. You are right and I don't think I said he was charged with murder though the facts of the case suggested 2nd degree murder as voluntary manslaughter is:
"Voluntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed upon a sudden quarrel or in the heat of passion."
Of course an ordinary citizen would have a hard time pressing forward such claim since the dead guy was handcuffed. Justifying the killing was never rendered by any court.
Interesting dynamic though. Flippen was never convicted of killing anyone yet he is fair game for killing. So what does that make the man convicted of killing?
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May 31, 2009
 
Brenda,

I no longer read or post here much. But I had to respond after hearing about this particular thread and seeing your post.

Thank You!

I've been in Mr. Ander's position and I know how tough that job can be...especially after a gunfight.

But of course, it's always easier for some people to judge from the relative comfort of their own ignorance and preconceived notions of what they think should happen in a situation they will never have to face.
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Brenda wrote:
Michael, poor poor misfit Michael.
If you feel speaking the truth is being 'foul mouthed' then I guess Billy Anders was right to take the plea deal. A jury trial would have required a jury of peers. Since Mr. Anders, a 20 plus year veteram, courageous badge toter, and fine man would have had to find 12 people equally true, it would have been a long row to ****.
Frankly, Mr. Flippen was ripe for killing. Had Deputy Anders simply broken his oath and walked up and killed Mr. Flippen it would have been absolutely justified. Had you done your part as a citizen and stuck up for a brave man who made a mistake, all would have been well. Had Flippen been kept in prison where he belonged we would not be where we are today.
But NO! People like you who cower in the back bedroom of your locked house and call 911 to check things out and make it all better, then emerge from your hidey-hole to second guess how and what was done are the blame for this situation.
You should be ashamed. You are not. There is the problem.
As to what it makes Mr. Anders, sir, it makes him a hero.
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First off I have no idea what would lead you to believe I hide anywhere, but that is part and parcel of your persona. You just make things up.

If for you stiking up for Anders means disagreeing with his own words that the killing was unlawful you become absurd.

At the time I was writing this about it:

http://alamogordotimes.com/modules/news/artic...

I would dare say I gave this case a great deal more thought than you.
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May 31, 2009
 
Michael if you want to go on thinking and believing Billy Anders got any type of just deal, you go on thinking it.

We were a tool at the time of the event, and you are a tool now.

I can absolutely guarantee you have not given the matter more thought than I have, but even if you did (impossible) you are still wrong.

Burning down a good man who made a non-consequential mistake was simply a case of ignorant cowards and official blowhards destroying the life of a better person.

Your lack of shame over the event -and media scribblings- is apalling, but predictable.

So, to show you are not a hypocrite. I think you should travel to any prison, pick out a vile criminal, take this person to your house, and no matter what happens do not call the police. Deal with it yourself. Live the life. Be a hero.

People of your cowardice and animosity towards better people no longer make me sick of stomach, you are simply boring and predictable.

Clown.
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First off I have no idea what would lead you to believe I hide anywhere, but that is part and parcel of your persona. You just make things up.
If for you stiking up for Anders means disagreeing with his own words that the killing was unlawful you become absurd.
At the time I was writing this about it:
http://alamogordotimes.com/modules/news/artic...
I would dare say I gave this case a great deal more thought than you.
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Question please. If he was shot in the house like you stated how was it recorded by the dash camera. Also if he had an involuntary muscle reflex as you say he did. Why was his finger on the trigger and his gun out in the first place. The man was mortally wounded your words not mine and was hand cuffed. Was ander still fearful for his life from a mortally wounded and hand cuffed man? Again your words not mine. Anyone who has the tinyest bit of hand gun training will tell you that you do not put your finger on the trigger when your weapon is out unless you intend to use it.

So if he cannot control his muscle reflexes maybe just maybe he should holster his weapon and keep his finger off the hair trigger. Just saying.

All that being said he did what he did was found guilty and served his time let him move on with his life.
Brenda wrote:
Billy Anders did not 'murder' anyone and was not charged with murder either. A thing Mr. Morris and many other bleaters knows all too well.
What happened was that while responding to 911 Shots Fired call near Cloudcroft involving a multi-convicted violent felon (Flippen) who was engaged in both the Meth trade and an Aryan Brotherhood criminal gang activity. Mr. Flippen decided to spend an evening killing the mother of a young girl, by shooting her several times thru a closet door, and then turning the gun on the dead woman's little girl and making her dance to bullets shot near her feet while the child screamed for her dead mother.
Hence the 911 call from neighbors.
Upon arrival of the deputys Flippen was trying to load the dead body of the woman he just killed into the trunk of a car. Seeing the police Flippen ran back into the house and began shooting.
Deputy Anders and another deputy arrived at the scene. Heard shots being fired and circled the house with Anders going to the front door, and the other deputy (Bob Hedman)going to the back door; where he was promptly shot dead by having his head blown in two by Flippen who was trying to escape.
Flippen then ran to the front of the house and saw Anders and the little girl together, Flippen began firing at them both and in the ensuing gun battle, at point blank range, Flippen was mortally wounded and fell to the ground. Anders handcuffed him, as is policy, safeguarded the little girl, and went looking for his now dead partner lying in a pool of his own blood on the back porch.
Anders then returned to the front of the house, gun still in hand, and while trying to roll Flippen over accidentally fired a shot, which killed Flippen instantly. The shot was clearly inadvertent and fired as a result of sympathetic muscle reflex, not a desire of Anders to shoot Flippen again.
After an investigation by essentially the same group of people who put Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean in prison on false charges, as well as many other law enforcement officers, they tried to charge Mr. Anders with capital murder!
The local Otero County prosecutor at the time was anxious to placate the feds and make a name for himself pushed the charges as well.
Billy Anders never went to trial, but instead took a plea agreement to
Billy Anders made two mistakes. One, accidentally shooting Flippem, and the other taking a plea agreement to a lesser charge.
Mr. Morris and all the other limp wristed hand wringers know this story all too well, and since they are jealous of heroic people like Anders and Hedman they find it easier to prosecute and villify them instead of showing any honor or respect.
Perhaps Billy Anders was right in taking the plea as he knew the type of people who would be on the jury.
Bless Billy Anders and all the other law enforcers who do and die for an ungrateful and scared public.

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