Cloudcroft schools approve 4-day scho...

Cloudcroft schools approve 4-day school week, budget cuts

There are 118 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from May 10, 2011, titled Cloudcroft schools approve 4-day school week, budget cuts. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

In spite of the fact that the entire town of Mayhill was being evacuated, that the school gym was converted to an emergency shelter and that many locals were engaged in firefighting efforts, there were still 62 concerned parents, teachers and community members packed into Monday night's Cloudcroft School Board meeting.

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liliputian lady

Alamogordo, NM

#106 May 14, 2011
Hey, kid, good for you for keeping yourself informed. Your posts have been some of the most articulate I have read here on Topix - I'm impressed! Hopefully you won't sell yourself short when college comes into sight. Take those brains and better yourself w/ higher education, then take that education and better the world.:)
An Annoyed Student wrote:
At In the ghetto, I'll have you know I'm an accomplished AP (Advanced Placement) student who has completed all of my courses prior to the date they are due so I have two free periods during the school day that of which I have the right to spend whatever time I wish doing as I want, and that is sitting here trying to comprehend the idiocracy people like you add to the conversation because it makes you feel important adding something to the debate when it does not even affect you. At Morris if you feel OH soooo passionately about this situation then will you be in the running for the school board for 2013? Are you so offended by his so called 'lack of moral character' that you would put yourself up to show us all how it should be done? I highly doubt you even have children attending the Cloudcroft School district, much less you being involved in our community. You may believe that Ponder is corrupt but obviously the rest of the community does not so you're opinion is obsolete and irrelevant to this post.
At Hunter I agree a hundred percent, you seem to be the only one who has a grasp as to what I am referring to. Unfortunately though our school has a wonderful tie system that of which will protect those who have been there for ages and will do nothing to remove them, regardless of the detrimental affects it may have on the student body. Not to mention that the adminstration is about as useless as they come. Honestly if they would have taken even just a pay reduction a few very valuable teachers could have been saved.
At An Annoyed Former Student you are absolutely right. The School Board has no right to point fingers at parents and the community. Neither of my parents have ever received an invitation and or notification of School Board meetings but have received multiple calls about all sorts of academic and event related calls. If the school board wanted us involved soo bad then they should have made a greater effort to get us involved. Now we're in a tough situation.
Another point I am going to bring up is the fact that it is about time the school implemented some type of pay system for the athletes. The Band students, Science Olympiad, Student Council, and other organizations pay for everything themselves, its about time Athletics started pulling their own weight. I am a former athlete mind you so I am not being strictly against that organization.
Michael Morris

Carrizozo, NM

#107 May 14, 2011
Randall wrote:
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I believe if you will check Arlan Ponder served on the Cloudcroft Village Council until March of 2010. I believe if you will also check you will find that he has coached football at the High School and is extremely involved in the school system. He has attended several school board meetings that I attended where neither of us knew to sign in. He has worked to provide scholarships to the youth of our community through the Cloudcroft Light Opera Company and the Cloudcroft Kiwanis. He has also VOLUNTEERED his time to assist the community any time he is called upon, most recently during the Mayhill Fire. When he was on the council he asked Bill Richardson during his only visit to Cloudcroft to help keep our museum open. Richardson gave the community $100K to keep one of our little museum open. While one of our local residents was going through some health problems Ponder donated items he had made to help offseat the cost of his medical expenses. After the fire destroyed 8 of our businesses in town Ponder and his family graciously donated numerous items and money to the fire relief fund AND he served on the fire relief fund board to see that our local community members received money while they attempted to find other jobs.
I personally know he is an excellent father and his daughters are respectful and kind. He and his family are involved in our little community unlike many others up here. He is well respected in this community and says things that most people are too afraid to say.
Michael Moore's comments about him and calling him by his legal name - Blair Arlan Ponder - are inappropriate and uncalled for. Please stay on topic and stop attempting to antagonize a friend of mine who has VOLUNTEERED to put himself in this position. Maybe you should put your energy into making this world a better place than critizing those who are trying to do something positive about this bad situation in our state.
I mean he was on the Ballot as Blair Ponder, right? I mean if he ran as Arlan Ponder on the ballot he would then be a felon. He wouldn't do that would he?
Morris is Annoying

Albuquerque, NM

#108 May 14, 2011
Michael Morris wrote:
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I mean he was on the Ballot as Blair Ponder, right? I mean if he ran as Arlan Ponder on the ballot he would then be a felon. He wouldn't do that would he?
Pretty sure he had to register as Blair even though he goes by Arlon.
An Annoyed Student

Alamogordo, NM

#109 May 14, 2011
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>If your parents do not know about school board meetings than they are just plain ignorant. A pay system for athletes? You say these other organizations pay for everything themselves? Do they pay for the gas pumped into the busses that take them places? Do they pay for their uniforms and band instruments? I can go on and on but you get the picture. You shouldn't have two free periods, somebody should be schooling you better!
Once again what position do you have in this battle? Yes actually all of these organizations pay for EVERYTHING. We fund raise all year and take nothing from the school, unlike athletics. As for the bands uniforms we have had them for 20 years and don't have the money to replace them unlike the athletes we get new uniforms almost every year. HAH! Schooling me better? You have obviously never taken duel credit or Advanced Placement courses, they EXCEED common public education. And it was my own doing that I ended before the deadline (with a 98 and top ranking in both classes mind you!), my hard work is what earned me the right to two free periods. Oh no my parents do know about the meetings, they're not stupid, but they've had to look and go far out of their way to find out when they are. I'm merely stating that they should give the meetings more publicity so more parents could know when to come.
Michael Morris

Carrizozo, NM

#110 May 14, 2011
Morris is Annoying wrote:
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Pretty sure he had to register as Blair even though he goes by Arlon.
I know he has to register as Blair Arlan Ponder since the registration requires all of them. Then to get on a ballot the law requires the candidate to run on the ballot under the same name as registration. You may remember a candidate for County office that was known similarly by a name not his first, but still had to follow the law and run under his more obscure first name. Reading the sample ballot for the SB election he was not even properly on the ballot because of this, but more importantly it is illegal.

1-10-6. Ballots; name to be printed; candidates with similar names.
In the preparation of ballots:
A. the candidate's name shall be printed on the ballot as it appears on the candidate's certificate of registration that is on file in the county clerk's office on the day the governor issues the proclamation for the primary election;

Of course that is on the County Clerk - surprise. But this falls squarely on the candidate.

1-22-8. Declaration of candidacy; sworn statement of intent; form.

In making a declaration of candidacy, the candidate shall submit a sworn statement of intent in substantially the following form:

"DECLARATION OF CANDIDACY — STATEMENT OF INTENT

I,_________candidate's name on certificate of registration) being first duly sworn, say that I am a voter of Precinct No._________ of the county of __________ State of New Mexico. I reside at __________ and was a resident at that place on the date of the school board's proclamation calling the election for which I am a candidate;

I am a qualified elector of the State of New Mexico residing within __________ school district;

I desire to become a candidate for the office of __________ Position No._________ at the school district election to be held on the date set by law;

I will be eligible and legally qualified to hold this office at the beginning of its term; and

I make the foregoing affidavit under oath, knowing that any false statement herein constitutes a felony punishable under the criminal laws of New Mexico.
__________
(Declarant)

Heck, even our DA knows this. She went to court to conform her legal name to the name under which she was generally known before she filled out her Declaration of Candidacy.

It seems that B. Arlan Ponder != Blair Arlan Ponder, so what comes out of this is once again he shows no regard for the law and the clerk is incompetent. While there is no actual news in any of this there is another reminder of the fast and loose way things are done around here. A fine example for the kids.
WARRIOR

Washington, DC

#111 May 14, 2011
An Annoyed Student wrote:
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Once again what position do you have in this battle? Yes actually all of these organizations pay for EVERYTHING. We fund raise all year and take nothing from the school, unlike athletics. As for the bands uniforms we have had them for 20 years and don't have the money to replace them unlike the athletes we get new uniforms almost every year. HAH! Schooling me better? You have obviously never taken duel credit or Advanced Placement courses, they EXCEED common public education. And it was my own doing that I ended before the deadline (with a 98 and top ranking in both classes mind you!), my hard work is what earned me the right to two free periods. Oh no my parents do know about the meetings, they're not stupid, but they've had to look and go far out of their way to find out when they are. I'm merely stating that they should give the meetings more publicity so more parents could know when to come.
When you use words like EVERYTHING and then state that basically, well not the band uniforms, you lose all credibility. We know you are very smart because you keep telling everybody that you are! When you grow up and get out into the real world you will learn that being very smart does not necessarily translate into success! Maybe if people paid to come and see you and the band instead of the football players you could dictate money issues. It will never happen!
Resident

Cloudcroft, NM

#112 May 15, 2011
There is a meeting scheduled for Wednesday, May 18, at Big Daddy's Diner for community members concerned about the school board decisions this last week. Go to cmsbears.net for more information.
123456abc

Alamogordo, NM

#113 May 15, 2011
Hey Warrior,
First of all warrior, guess you feel like a warrior fighting with a little kid over some school issue that doesn't even concern your dumb ass. Second, you are a loser because you are concerned with cloudcroft schools and you are not even from here, got no life, nothing better to do?. Finally, who gives a damn about Cloudcroft's problems, the racist morons did this to themselves, because of their behavior and actions over the years. Hope you read this before it is removed.
123456abc

Alamogordo, NM

#114 May 15, 2011
Oh and I bet no one ever came to see you do anything, except your mom, and she probably didn't either. You probably don't have a dad otherwise you would have learned some manners. I take that back, I bet people would have paid to come see you in the circus.
Concerned Educator

Alamogordo, NM

#115 May 15, 2011
To Warrior

Clearly you have no understanding of education nor the positive impact extra curricular activities have on the students as well as their community. It is not about paying to "SEE" some one do something. ALL extra curricular activities-- including the arts as well as sports--is about instilling confidence and teaching social skills they will need when they venture into the real world after graduation. They serve to teach students how to manage responsibilities as well time. it gives them the opportunity to exhibit their talents and teaches them the importance of diligence, and commitment in what ever they are doing.

It is ignorant posts such as yours that bring what should be intelligent conversations about issues to a halt. You should be applauding this student for their concern about a situation that directly concerns the education that student receives.

If you are not directly involved and have no intention of doing anything that will make a difference in the future of these children's education then you have no business in this conversation.

I suggest you take your obviously closed minded input and direct it to the likes and dislikes postings on Facebook--who knows, your opinion could really make an impact with those people.
Constitutional Rights

United States

#116 May 15, 2011
Concerned Educator wrote:
To Warrior
Clearly you have no understanding of education nor the positive impact extra curricular activities have on the students as well as their community. It is not about paying to "SEE" some one do something. ALL extra curricular activities-- including the arts as well as sports--is about instilling confidence and teaching social skills they will need when they venture into the real world after graduation. They serve to teach students how to manage responsibilities as well time. it gives them the opportunity to exhibit their talents and teaches them the importance of diligence, and commitment in what ever they are doing.
It is ignorant posts such as yours that bring what should be intelligent conversations about issues to a halt. You should be applauding this student for their concern about a situation that directly concerns the education that student receives.
If you are not directly involved and have no intention of doing anything that will make a difference in the future of these children's education then you have no business in this conversation.
I suggest you take your obviously closed minded input and direct it to the likes and dislikes postings on Facebook--who knows, your opinion could really make an impact with those people.
This is a public forum where everyone can post their opinion. If the child did not want to be be responded to, then they shouldn't have written on the forum. Just because it says under your name where you are from doesn't mean this person is not from Alamogordo. If you were educated, you would know that there are different internet providers. Each provider is listed in a different area, some are in Alamogordo, some are from Virginia. I live in Cloudcroft and my location either states Alamogordo or Tularosa. Please go educate yourself about the internet you are paying for. I thought teachers were taught not to assume, but I guess some just didn't quite catch on, did they?
I like this

Ivins, UT

#117 May 16, 2011
Kind of shows you that they are doing something right up there as compared to Alamo schools. I’m sorry I don’t see kids of this caliber coming out of that high school. And if they do, they are few and far between. Maybe Alamo can see what Cloudcroft is doing and adapt to a better curriculum. Yes I do know, not everyone agrees with a 4 day plan, and there will always be those who dont like the administration; but what I do see is highly educated kids graduating from Cloudcroft to a greater porportion that Alamo Schools.
liliputian lady wrote:
Hey, kid, good for you for keeping yourself informed. Your posts have been some of the most articulate I have read here on Topix - I'm impressed! Hopefully you won't sell yourself short when college comes into sight. Take those brains and better yourself w/ higher education, then take that education and better the world.:)
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Interesting

High Rolls Mountain Park, NM

#118 May 16, 2011
Yeah, really sad. Attended the awards ceremony in Alamo. last week. Best the kids at Alamo High could do is some where over a million dollars in scholarships handed out.
I guess it's too bad the Alamo kids can't seem to do any better then that!
Yeah, I'm being a bit sarcastic here! But you really should get out and see the great kids we have and what they can do before making such comments on a public forum.
I like this wrote:
Kind of shows you that they are doing something right up there as compared to Alamo schools. I’m sorry I don’t see kids of this caliber coming out of that high school. And if they do, they are few and far between. Maybe Alamo can see what Cloudcroft is doing and adapt to a better curriculum. Yes I do know, not everyone agrees with a 4 day plan, and there will always be those who dont like the administration; but what I do see is highly educated kids graduating from Cloudcroft to a greater porportion that Alamo Schools.
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well

Ivins, UT

#119 May 16, 2011
Well Ron Paul raised over a million in one night and I still don’t consider him a politician.....
Anyone can fill in a form.....And when most of the town makes only $10.00hr you can get all kinds of money for school.
Interesting wrote:
Yeah, really sad. Attended the awards ceremony in Alamo. last week. Best the kids at Alamo High could do is some where over a million dollars in scholarships handed out.
I guess it's too bad the Alamo kids can't seem to do any better then that!
Yeah, I'm being a bit sarcastic here! But you really should get out and see the great kids we have and what they can do before making such comments on a public forum.
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well

Ivins, UT

#120 May 16, 2011
I didn’t say there wasn’t smart kids in Alamo just that it seems to be that there are more kids in CC who are more articulate. The Kids from CC schools seem to be better educated across the board than the kids from Alamo. And Alamo schools could learn from it.
How many kids are graduating this year from Alamo Schools 400ish and about 25%ish going on to college
CC schools are graduating 30ish with 85%ish going on to college..
Even for a tiny school thats impressive!
Interesting wrote:
Yeah, really sad. Attended the awards ceremony in Alamo. last week. Best the kids at Alamo High could do is some where over a million dollars in scholarships handed out.
I guess it's too bad the Alamo kids can't seem to do any better then that!
Yeah, I'm being a bit sarcastic here! But you really should get out and see the great kids we have and what they can do before making such comments on a public forum.
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I like this wrote:

Kind of shows you that they are doing something right up there as compared to Alamo schools. I’m sorry I don’t see kids of this caliber coming out of that high school. And if they do, they are few and far between. Maybe Alamo can see what Cloudcroft is doing and adapt to a better curriculum. Yes I do know, not everyone agrees with a 4 day plan, and there will always be those who dont like the administration; but what I do see is highly educated kids graduating from Cloudcroft to a greater porportion that Alamo Schools.
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Calamity Jane

United States

#121 May 17, 2011
Somehow, this superintendent has got to go.
Ellen Wedum

Cloudcroft, NM

#122 May 24, 2011
In the ghetto wrote:
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Are you on crack? The top 5% pay 95% of the taxes. Let's have a flat tax where everyone pays 15% no deductions, minimal IRS staff and no filing taxes.....

I think you are mistaken about that 95%.

From 1944 to 1963, the top income bracket paid over 90% of their income as tax. We paid for our wars then instead of borrowing more and more.

The more significant statistic, IMHO, is the amount of income a person had left after paying that tax. Those in the top bracket still had more than seven times the income left than those in the lowest bracket did, back then. Now, in 2009, those with taxable income less than $16,700 pay a 10% tax, while all those with taxable income over $373,000 pay only 35%, and the the richest Americans have over SEVENTY times the after-tax income as those in the lowest bracket.

More ominously, since the Supreme Court refuses to allow limits on campaign donations, the richest Americans have approximately SEVENTY times the income available to donate to candidates and PACs.

We need a Constitutional amendment that states that only US citizens that are registered to vote can make donations, and that permits Congress to set donation limits.

Ellen Wedum
concerned citizen

Artesia, NM

#123 May 24, 2011
NotCool wrote:
This school has problems anyway, they keep their test scores and public image up by holding half of their students back a grade so they will be the "superstars" of the next level. It's a sham and harmful to the kids. Anyone that needs anything beyond the typical "piling on" of homework gets held back. It seems to be policy.
Excuse me! Holding kids back has NOT been the practice in Cloudcroft! I don't know where you get your information, but you need to take a look at the retention rate and see that the percentage is smaller than most school districts.

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