Cloudcroft schools approve 4-day scho...

Cloudcroft schools approve 4-day school week, budget cuts

There are 118 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from May 10, 2011, titled Cloudcroft schools approve 4-day school week, budget cuts. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

In spite of the fact that the entire town of Mayhill was being evacuated, that the school gym was converted to an emergency shelter and that many locals were engaged in firefighting efforts, there were still 62 concerned parents, teachers and community members packed into Monday night's Cloudcroft School Board meeting.

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downward spiral

Mayhill, NM

#1 May 10, 2011
Let's see what happens when parents start pulling even more of their kids from the school...maybe then the school will have to consolidate with Alamogordo...then what? Perhaps the school board has started a downward spiral that will end where they never dreamed.
Michael Morris

Carrizozo, NM

#2 May 10, 2011
It is sad that Ponder is still the whiny little baby as always. Why don't you grow up? Isn't making a donkey of yourself getting old now?
HA HA

United States

#3 May 11, 2011
Michael Morris you said it! This man or should I say boy will never grow up!! A jerk in the worst way. Ponder should have never been voted on to the school board any way.
Just adding numbers

Mayhill, NM

#4 May 11, 2011
Hmmmmmmm....add up the admistrators wages....$349,250........
why are the admistrators making so much money compared to our teachers who make a pittance in comparison? Maybe the admistrators should take a reduction in pay before you cut a teacher or a program for our children......
Why should the admistrators for a very small communtity consume the budget in paying themselves first..........If each would take a 10% reduction they would still make more than any "real" educator of our children.........
Maybe if the students will only have a four day week....the admistrators pay should be cut a day too..........
liliputian lady

Alamogordo, NM

#5 May 11, 2011
Good for the school board! Four day school weeks have been implemented all over the country, with great results. Cloudcroft has been throwing around this idea for several years now,(if the parents had been paying attention over the last few years, they wouldn't be so surprised that the district finally settled on this decision) and I, for one, am glad.

People hate change, and (especially in our little town) tend to view anything new or different with suspicion. Let's give it a few years and see how then new system pans out.

One more thing - for those parents who are against the policy because of childcare issues: THE SCHOOL IS NOT YOUR DAYCARE PROVIDER! Neither is it your babysitter. Neither is it responsible for raising your children. That is your job.
education first

Mayhill, NM

#6 May 11, 2011
liliputian lady wrote:
Good for the school board! Four day school weeks have been implemented all over the country, with great results. Cloudcroft has been throwing around this idea for several years now,(if the parents had been paying attention over the last few years, they wouldn't be so surprised that the district finally settled on this decision) and I, for one, am glad.
People hate change, and (especially in our little town) tend to view anything new or different with suspicion. Let's give it a few years and see how then new system pans out.
One more thing - for those parents who are against the policy because of childcare issues: THE SCHOOL IS NOT YOUR DAYCARE PROVIDER! Neither is it your babysitter. Neither is it responsible for raising your children. That is your job.
The only people in favor of this are the teachers and administrators. It's easier for them. It's not in the best interest of the students learning and educators should know that. Parents have been going to the meetings which is why it has never passed before now. This was already decided before parents showed up.
Think So

Alamogordo, NM

#7 May 11, 2011
At least Ponder, Porch and Green had the courage to be there. Where was Cates during this fiasco?
Leo

Alamogordo, NM

#8 May 11, 2011
HA HA wrote:
Michael Morris you said it! This man or should I say boy will never grow up!! A jerk in the worst way. Ponder should have never been voted on to the school board any way.
So I suspect we can see Mr. Morris' name on the ballot for school board in 2013? Or are you going to sit back and call Mr. Ponder names like a little child yourself?
education first

Mayhill, NM

#9 May 11, 2011
Think So wrote:
At least Ponder, Porch and Green had the courage to be there. Where was Cates during this fiasco?
...and why didnt Denney vote?
In the ghetto

Alamogordo, NM

#10 May 11, 2011
Dumb. Dumb. Hey school board let's shoot for a two day school week. Just have 13 hours of instruction twice per week. Or better yet, lets go 13 hours per day, 7 days per week and have a two month school year and a ten month break. You can also close the cafeteria and contract through McDonalds to sell food to bring in extra revenue. You can also contract with an energy drink company to provide soda machines. That'll provide not only funding but the required boost to get students through 13 hour days. Let's go to school uniforms contracted through Nike for more cash to the school. If you switch to a 2 month school year, you can turn the school into an B&B during the long break. You'll be the most solvent school in America.
Silence Dogood

Alamogordo, NM

#11 May 11, 2011
As Pastor Larry said at the school board meeting the other night "This community comes together when it needs to and we will overcome this too."
Joe Ziegenfuss

Cloudcroft, NM

#12 May 11, 2011
I wonder what grade the school will get next year. This is a large mistake. Transportation director is a made up position and should never have occurred. How do the Cloudcroft administrator salaries compare with other districts in our county? How do they compare with other districts of similiar size within our state?
Defeated

Cloudcroft, NM

#13 May 11, 2011
We don't expect the school to be our daycare provider, how dare someone say that. People are already leaving Cloudcroft in droves because they can't make a living here. They are only adding 30 mins a day to the 4 day wk -- why is it that no one gets this very important point? Go ahead and call each other as many names as you want, it's the kids who will suffer in all of this mess.
education first

Mayhill, NM

#14 May 11, 2011
Defeated wrote:
We don't expect the school to be our daycare provider, how dare someone say that. People are already leaving Cloudcroft in droves because they can't make a living here. They are only adding 30 mins a day to the 4 day wk -- why is it that no one gets this very important point? Go ahead and call each other as many names as you want, it's the kids who will suffer in all of this mess.
I get it and I agree people will leave. It's just too much of a loss to the kids' quality of education. How dare people think we dont provide for our kids' care. We care enough to leave to get the best for them.
Morris is Annoying

Alamogordo, NM

#15 May 11, 2011
Leo wrote:
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So I suspect we can see Mr. Morris' name on the ballot for school board in 2013? Or are you going to sit back and call Mr. Ponder names like a little child yourself?
Think again!

Mr. Morris does not live in Cloudcroft, nor do his children attend public schools. He simply believes it to be his job to talk negatively about others when he simply won't step up to the plate.
Just Me

Alamogordo, NM

#16 May 11, 2011
How is the four day school week going to affect the minimum 180 days required by the state? Are the kids going to have to attend longer? If so then I don't see how this can help with the budget.
An Annoyed Student

Artesia, NM

#18 May 11, 2011
It's really funny sitting watching everyone banter back and forth like little kids, like argueing and calling names is going to bring about a solution to this issue. I am a student, a Junior, at Cloudcroft High School and I will honestly say with the behavior presented above and demonstrated from some people at the Board Meeting that maybe the kids should be allowed to run this mess. Unfortunately due to limited alternatives we have to go to a 4 day school week, is this the best of plans taking into considering our education? Absolutely not, but what must be done, must be done. We're already in waist deep and SINKING. But lets stop bickering for a moment and take into account the salaries and positions of certain staff members here at Cloudcroft High School. Now pray tell why do we have two super intendants? Is it because neither are smart enough to run the system by themselves? Why is their pay so high? AND why are we KEEPING them and eliminating teachers who are beneficial to the the students? Why in the world do we need soooo many faculity members who do absolutely nothing and don't benefit our students at all? Let's sit back and evaluate everyones preformance. Hmm what did you come up with? That's what I thought, we need teachers who are here and dedicated to us. Who will help US, the students succeed. You want my honest opinion? This community is acting like a bunch of children! It is pulling apart at the seams and fighting, instead of pulling together and getting THROUGH THIS. We can't stop it now, we can't keep going 'well they did this,' and 'he/she said that," and 'Wah wah wah the government." What's done is done! Whoever's fault it is well let karma get them in the end, right now we need, no MUST band together and work with one another if we want to preserve our school and our community. And if you think I'm too young to be saying anything then you're a fool. If you want to know the truth, to see who it is going to effect and who it is going to hurt look at the students. We see it from the inside, why don't you step in our shoes and take a look.

Since: Oct 10

Tularosa, NM

#21 May 11, 2011
liliputian lady wrote:
Good for the school board! Four day school weeks have been implemented all over the country, with great results. Cloudcroft has been throwing around this idea for several years now,(if the parents had been paying attention over the last few years, they wouldn't be so surprised that the district finally settled on this decision) and I, for one, am glad.
People hate change, and (especially in our little town) tend to view anything new or different with suspicion. Let's give it a few years and see how then new system pans out.
One more thing - for those parents who are against the policy because of childcare issues: THE SCHOOL IS NOT YOUR DAYCARE PROVIDER! Neither is it your babysitter. Neither is it responsible for raising your children. That is your job.
Taking personal responsibility....not such a popular idea when you have turned over your responsibilities to another.
education first

Mayhill, NM

#22 May 11, 2011
....anyway, Annoyed student, like anything else, you ignore the immature and deranged and glean the good....case in point (eyes shift to above posts). I am not sure what's done is done. The whole thing may not be legal, regarding enough classroom hours being met for state requirements. Perhaps PED and the lawyers will discuss.
An Annoyed Student

Artesia, NM

#23 May 11, 2011
At Education First, you have a valid point but like anything else involving education as of late it seems it is a down hill descent from here. With the economy in the state that it is in education is taking the hardest hit. As for meeting the required days IT IS legal. It is not strictly a 180 days, but rather a total number of hours that of which students are required to attend. They will be extending the length of the day for the 4 days we will be attending school that of which will account for the missed day. They will also remove our snow days to meet the requirement, so if we have to take a snow day then we will have to make it up (More than likely by removing a day from our spring break and or adding a day or so to the length of the year.)

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