Cloudcroft OKs 4-day school week

There are 20 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Jun 22, 2011, titled Cloudcroft OKs 4-day school week. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

Once again, approximately 60 parents, teachers and community members gathered around the Cloudcroft school board Monday night to debate the proposed four-day school week.

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What

Alamogordo, NM

#1 Jun 23, 2011
German-born parent Thomas Rimmele! How many school taxes does he or the Woeger's pay living in Sunspot?
Just Wondering

United States

#2 Jun 23, 2011
Just another example of society being dumbed down. No wonder other countries are exceedign the U.S, in academics and other areas.
More educated than What

Kiev, Ukraine

#4 Jun 23, 2011
What wrote:
German-born parent Thomas Rimmele! How many school taxes does he or the Woeger's pay living in Sunspot?
The majority of funds for operating costs of schools comes from other taxes, not property taxes! Revenue from property taxes is only a small amount and is earmarked specifically for maintenance and technology. Get your facts straight!
But then again, you probably can't because you acquired your education at Cloudcroft Schools - your grammar gives you away.

“Leadership is listening.”

Since: Jan 09

Casper, WY and Alamogordo, NM

#5 Jun 23, 2011
What wrote:
German-born parent Thomas Rimmele! How many school taxes does he or the Woeger's pay living in Sunspot?
Since I personally know both the Woegers and the Rimmeles, let me give you some facts - the both pay PLENTY of taxes.

For that matter, before you go shooting off your mouth some more, you should realize that the Rimmeles are naturalized citizens and the Woeger children are US citizens as well.

But then again, I doubt you have a PhD so I have doubts you can figure this out on your own.
Angry

Artesia, NM

#6 Jun 23, 2011
Tommy just quit!!!! You are not needed.$6,000 a year in saving???? Sorry that is not enough for someone who sits on their rear and does nothing!!! Once again the school board takes no interest in what the community has to say!!! They already had thier minds set before the meeting

“Leadership is listening.”

Since: Jan 09

Casper, WY and Alamogordo, NM

#7 Jun 23, 2011
Angry wrote:
Tommy just quit!!!! You are not needed.$6,000 a year in saving???? Sorry that is not enough for someone who sits on their rear and does nothing!!! Once again the school board takes no interest in what the community has to say!!! They already had thier minds set before the meeting
Do you have anything to substantiate this?
OSO

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Jun 23, 2011
ladyastronomer wrote:
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Do you have anything to substantiate this?
All you need to do is go meet handcock and get why the whole town wants him out. Oh wait! he probibly wouldn't shake your hand or stop to talk to you because...quite frankly...he doesn't give a crap. Good day!
OSO

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Jun 23, 2011
sorry *Probably* i meant!
Joe

Alamogordo, NM

#10 Jun 23, 2011
Citing Snoddy summarized statment:
"Education is not a priority in the state of New Mexico. The moment the governor decided to reduce the deficit by cutting education, it put us in a bind. And furthermore, she actually placed the responsibility of balancing that budget onto us, on every community in New Mexico."
Of course it isn't. When the fools we sent to Santa Fe to reresent us, passed their hefty pay raise before even looking into the state budget,and got aproved, by your governor and I say your governor because I didn't vote for that Coco-nut. So don't blame me there! But, I feel sorry for our children, the educators and our system.
mountain person

High Rolls Mountain Park, NM

#11 Jun 23, 2011
What about 5 percent cuts for the other administrators?
gray matters

High Rolls Mountain Park, NM

#12 Jun 23, 2011
What wrote:
German-born parent Thomas Rimmele! How many school taxes does he or the Woeger's pay living in Sunspot?
If they pay property taxes, they are paying for the schools.
ShootApples

United States

#13 Jun 23, 2011
Dear Complainants:

Try spending less time belly-aching and more time with your children.
WTFO

United States

#14 Jun 23, 2011
With 4 day school weeks, will they still graduate in 8th grade?
ShootApples

United States

#16 Jun 23, 2011
Dear NOT holier than thou:

Try spending less time belly-aching and more time with your children.
Former CC

Berlin, Germany

#17 Jun 24, 2011
Dear Joe,

Thank you for a constructive comment that was not an anonymous personal attack on someone's character.

It's so true that who you vote for matters. How was this unexpected after voting for a government, and especially a governor, that doesn't care about funding education properly? Martinez stated, in an article published in this paper, that she would slash administration budgets for the schools to "trim the fat". When the administration was given less money to dole out, do you really think they were going to voluntarily "trim" their own fat before slashing somewhere else, at kids' expense?

Same goes for the school board. Many in Cloudcroft ran unopposed, as recently as February. They should have been asked to state their opinions on where to cut funding if it were necessary. Granted, this is all easy to say in hindsight, so there's no point in chastising anyone. But when 2012, or any election year, rolls around, ask good questions and demand good answers from those who want to speak for the community.
At Board Meeting

Artesia, NM

#18 Jun 24, 2011
I to wish everyone would just "stop it". Let us now go forward, support the board, and continue making Cloudcroft the best. We can do that because we are Cloudcroft. If there continues to be complaining and a "out to get them" because you don't agree, kids will suffer. Enjoy the rest of summer with your kids as school will roll around soon enough. When it does, work as a team (parents, teachers, administration, school board, and community) to continue the repuation Cloudcroft has. Don't make the hateful things being said be what Cloudcroft is about. Eveyone voiced their opinion and a decision was made. Move on and run for the school board next time--or make sure you vote.
Scot Stinnett

Fort Sumner, NM

#19 Jun 24, 2011
As a school board member in Fort Sumner, I can testitfy that we too have strugglied mightily with budget challenges for the coming year.

But the REPORTED comments by a Cloudcroft teacher criticizing the ability of local school boards to make the budget decisions that affect their local district worries me. If he was correctly quoted, I hope Mr. Snoddy is not advocating that the state make all decisions about balancing school budgets. Far to many powers have been stripped from local school boards and left to elected public officials who count votes and potential votes before making decisions that affect our local communities and most importantly, our children.

At least with the local board making decisions, Cloudcroft voters have the ability to make a change if they so desire. But like Fort Sumner, the small number of voters in Cloudcroft can seldom make enough of a difference to make a statewide candidate think twice about a decision.
Resident

High Rolls Mountain Park, NM

#20 Jun 24, 2011
Amy Lane resigned after the school board meeting. This is unfortunate as she was the one good administrator. Too bad the other three administrators and school board members will not resign.
Seen Some Things

Alamogordo, NM

#21 Jun 24, 2011
I have been a teacher and an administrator for 35 years - still going strong and loving it! Have been recognized locally, state-wide, and nationally - was invited to speak at an international teaching symposium in Europe this summer. I have seen much and learned even more about what works in public ed.

The issue is not a 5 day week, 4 day week, 3 day week, money, lack of money, facilities, lack of facilities, good administrators, bad administrators, chalk boards vs. white boards, smart boards vs. dumb boards, computers vs. no technology, or bad school board vs. good school boards.

The issue is teaching... I have seen every teaching philosophical fad that has come down the proverbial pike in education... EVERY ONE of them - and these fads, are usually categorized and selected by those who have been in the classroom for a year or less and suddenly they are authorities.

My teaching has improved in many ways over the years but it has almost never been because of in-service, outta-service, service stations, or military service training - it has been because of my peers. I speak with good teachers on almost a daily basis, teachers who have classroom skills, and better teaching ideas. They have vision. I ask my students continually about what they like about their good teachers. And as a result, I have improved.

If you are a true teacher - none of the other stuff matters. As soon as you walk into that classroom - if you have an hour and a half or just 45 minutes... you find a way to get it done.

The constant dollar growth in education spending per student has risen substantially in the 43 years after 1967 (4.0 percent a year in real terms) than it did in the 43 years before 1967 (3.3 percent). Since 1967, scores peaked, since 1967 national scores have continued to decline.

Three people are responsible for classroom learning and comprehension... the parent, the teacher, and the student... mostly the student - I can pour out all the info on my subject that I want to - but if the student does not want to learn, it is not going to happen.

If the administrator that resigned, is truly a good one, she will pick up her letter of resignation and make her situation work. Immaturity resigns in the midst of controversy... always. Education needs good administrators who stay the course in spite of the storms surrounding them.

Teachers can open the doors - but the students must walk through them...
Just Wondering

United States

#22 Jun 24, 2011
Seen Some Things wrote:
I have been a teacher and an administrator for 35 years - still going strong and loving it! Have been recognized locally, state-wide, and nationally - was invited to speak at an international teaching symposium in Europe this summer. I have seen much and learned even more about what works in public ed.
The issue is not a 5 day week, 4 day week, 3 day week, money, lack of money, facilities, lack of facilities, good administrators, bad administrators, chalk boards vs. white boards, smart boards vs. dumb boards, computers vs. no technology, or bad school board vs. good school boards.
The issue is teaching... I have seen every teaching philosophical fad that has come down the proverbial pike in education... EVERY ONE of them - and these fads, are usually categorized and selected by those who have been in the classroom for a year or less and suddenly they are authorities.
My teaching has improved in many ways over the years but it has almost never been because of in-service, outta-service, service stations, or military service training - it has been because of my peers. I speak with good teachers on almost a daily basis, teachers who have classroom skills, and better teaching ideas. They have vision. I ask my students continually about what they like about their good teachers. And as a result, I have improved.
If you are a true teacher - none of the other stuff matters. As soon as you walk into that classroom - if you have an hour and a half or just 45 minutes... you find a way to get it done.
The constant dollar growth in education spending per student has risen substantially in the 43 years after 1967 (4.0 percent a year in real terms) than it did in the 43 years before 1967 (3.3 percent). Since 1967, scores peaked, since 1967 national scores have continued to decline.
Three people are responsible for classroom learning and comprehension... the parent, the teacher, and the student... mostly the student - I can pour out all the info on my subject that I want to - but if the student does not want to learn, it is not going to happen.
If the administrator that resigned, is truly a good one, she will pick up her letter of resignation and make her situation work. Immaturity resigns in the midst of controversy... always. Education needs good administrators who stay the course in spite of the storms surrounding them.
Teachers can open the doors - but the students must walk through them...
Great posting. I agree with you 100%. It is such as the saying "you can lead a horse to water, bbut can't make it drink."

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