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Traffic camera bill awaits hearing - News

There are 69 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Mar 23, 2009, titled Traffic camera bill awaits hearing - News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

A bill to install cameras at intersections in Hawaii to catch red-light runners is awaiting a hearing before the state Senate committees on transportation and the Judiciary.

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leeward lolo

Elgin, IL

#64 Mar 23, 2009
Lani wrote:
The story did not mention that opposition to intersection cameras is due in part to the nationally-known Hawaii van-cam fiasco of 2002. The law makers jumped at the opportunity to raise money by photographing speeders from unmarked vans parked on state highways. The public was outraged.
Are the law makers actually considering the consequences of their actions this time?
And how many millions did it cost taxpayers when these van cam tickets were tossed out of court?
Get Real

Honolulu, HI

#65 Mar 23, 2009
Just a GI wrote:
I'm still recovering from a T-Bone crash two years ago caused by a red-light runner. If the cameras are proven to reduce this kind of crash, then I'm all for it. If it increases the rear-enders, then that has to be taken into consideration. Is that because of following too close, or inattentiveness? Inquiring minds want to know.
Maybe cameras will free police to ticket people who follow too close or are driving while distracted.
The upside is with traffic cams there will be less T-bone crashes. But the downside is there will be more rear-end collisions.
Haupia Girl


#66 Mar 23, 2009
We need the cameras to save lives!!!!!!!!
Slow Poke

United States

#67 Mar 23, 2009
anon wrote:
This is more about making money for the counties than about safety.
what's wrong with that? if that's such a problem, don't run the red, don't get a ticket, the county doesn't get your money. simple.
Slow Poke

United States

#68 Mar 23, 2009
Red means stop wrote:
So what if it is a moneymaker for the City? Red light runners should be fined because they are creating a hazard for other drivers and because they are stupid. I believe stupid drivers should pay more for their stupid behavior in insurance and in fines. Because HPD is out doing the real job of crime fighting by being parked in front of the plate lunch wagon, having cameras do the work by tagging drivers who enter the intersection on a red light makes sense. Having an automated system photo red light runners and send tickets in the mail to the owners will make them more responsible about their driving and about who they may lend their car to if they claim it wasn't them. Now, if they took the money from these fines and filled some of the potholes, that would be gravy!
Amen!!! For those who are so worried about big brother watching, you shouldn't be commenting on forums or using the internet. and so what if the county makes pockets the change where else are they gonna get it from... tourism? make the law breakers pay and put mucho points on their driving record. driving is a privilege not a right.

Kaneohe, HI

#69 Mar 24, 2009
This is going to make a lot of money of the state but the money should go directly to highway maintenance and not the general fund.
Victor in California


#71 Mar 24, 2009
I live in California but visit Hawaii frequently. Several cities here have implemented these types of cameras. In my opinion they are extremely dangerous, especially if they do not have accompanying crossing lights that "count down" the seconds remaining before the light changes color. Not knowing how "new" or "old" the yellow light is often forces the driver to speed up to the intersection and then slam on the brakes at the last moment to avoid being caught (i.e., photographed) in the intersection and risk being rear-ended by the car behind them. This has almost happened to me on several occasions and to many drivers I've observed. At minimum, these red light cameras should have visible timers that let drivers know how much time is left before the light changes from yellow to red.
Local boy

Honolulu, HI

#73 Mar 25, 2009
ka iwi coast wrote:
Why all the uproar. If you don't run red lights you have nothing to worry about.
But when dey shorten the yellow. Then there are those big intersections like King and Alapai where you can barely clear the intersection if you enter the intersection on the yellow since you just can't stop safely.

What happens if the exit from the intersection is blocked due to cross traffic? Remember when HPD was working really hard to ticket those that got caught in the intersection when the light changed and you were blocking cross traffic? Hardened criminals for sure. If they were interested in relieving traffic congestion they'd direct the traffic flow instead of just standing around.
Local boy

Honolulu, HI

#75 Mar 25, 2009
Slow Poke wrote:
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what's wrong with that? if that's such a problem, don't run the red, don't get a ticket, the county doesn't get your money. simple.
And who foots the cost of installing all that equipment? O, I forget. YOu like pay higher taxes.

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