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Traffic camera bill awaits hearing - News

There are 69 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Mar 23, 2009, titled Traffic camera bill awaits hearing - News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

A bill to install cameras at intersections in Hawaii to catch red-light runners is awaiting a hearing before the state Senate committees on transportation and the Judiciary.

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Lani

United States

#1 Mar 23, 2009
The story did not mention that opposition to intersection cameras is due in part to the nationally-known Hawaii van-cam fiasco of 2002. The law makers jumped at the opportunity to raise money by photographing speeders from unmarked vans parked on state highways. The public was outraged.

Are the law makers actually considering the consequences of their actions this time?
Just a GI

United States

#2 Mar 23, 2009
I'm still recovering from a T-Bone crash two years ago caused by a red-light runner. If the cameras are proven to reduce this kind of crash, then I'm all for it. If it increases the rear-enders, then that has to be taken into consideration. Is that because of following too close, or inattentiveness? Inquiring minds want to know.

Maybe cameras will free police to ticket people who follow too close or are driving while distracted.
watchdog

Kailua, HI

#3 Mar 23, 2009
When the cameras were in the last time, you could tell that some intersections such as Date and Kapiolani, Kapiolani and Kalakaua had the yellow shortened. I drove the same route for 20 years and all of a sudden I could not make it thru the Date St intersection entering on a green that had just turned yellow without the red light showing before I completed the intersection. I tried and tested it so many times.

The reason for the increase in the rear enders is the folks do not want a moving violation for insurance rates so instead of moving with the flow, they slam on their breaks and the person behind even going 35 miles an hour can not stop in time when the front car makes such a radical stop when there is no other reason than in their head.

Way to solve it is to keep the yellow at a reasonable time, and DELAY THE GREEN for 3 seconds or however many is reasonable for that last guy that entered on the yellow to make it thru.( DON'T make us start thinking YELLOW IS STOP!!!, yellow is caution, light will be turning red, PREPARE to stop. If there are going to be red light cameras they should be set to only take the photo of a car ENTERING ( not in the MIDDLE, and not LEAVING) ON THE RED. It should be set up to help us, not to make us so frantic we slam on our breaks.

I am a very careful driver, worked for an insurance company in the total loss department and have seen many accidents. Yet, I have gone thru some red lights totally by accident, was distracted, whatever....So there are going to be accidents. I am so grateful that I did not cause one.

When they had the camera before, everyone was so busy looking at the speedometer that we couldn't pay attention to the road. Sure hope that does not come back.

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Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#4 Mar 23, 2009
There is nothing like the invasion of privacy of some INNOCENT people.
H E Pennypacker

Snellville, GA

#5 Mar 23, 2009
How can you have an invasion of privacy on public roads? Catch people running red lights and the state makes some money to improve our roads. Its a win-win situation.
Stumpy

Honolulu, HI

#6 Mar 23, 2009
Still haven't heard how they are going to ticket the NUMEROUS illegally operated cars on the road. The ones where the vehicle has had the plates changed, the ones that were never transferred, etc. And of coures the fines will never be collected except from those with jobs and driver's license, the chronics will go free.
Info Sharing

United States

#7 Mar 23, 2009
There are so many successful traffic camera in operation in many cities and states, I cannot fathom why the politicians do not go forth and seek out more information and details from other cities and states to see how to successfully implement such a program that would be free from any possible future legal confrontations. Many of those cameras in operation have worked for many cities and states and they have yet to have been involved in any legal wranglings. And for those who commented that a camera will distract a driver and make them look at their speedometer instead of the road, a very simple answer to that - one that knows that they are not speeding will not have a need to look at their speedometer!!
Miss my island

Lake Oswego, OR

#8 Mar 23, 2009
-Lana- wrote:
There is nothing like the invasion of privacy of some INNOCENT people.
huh?
manini

Kapaau, HI

#9 Mar 23, 2009
Bring em on. They're long overdue.,
Chi

Honolulu, HI

#10 Mar 23, 2009
Running a red light can cause severe traffic crashes especially when one vehicle runs into the side of another (i.e., an angle crash). Red light cameras photograph violators who are sent traffic tickets by mail. Intuitively, cameras appear to be a good idea. However, comprehensive studies conclude cameras actually increase crashes and injuries, providing a safety argument not to install them. (study by Barbara Langland-Orban, Ph.D., MSPH, Etienne E. Pracht, Ph.D. and John T. Large, PhD.)

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Since: Oct 08

Denver, CO

#11 Mar 23, 2009
We have them in Denver, the only problem I have with them is that pesky 'Bill of Rights'. Innocent until proven guilty, and all that. Cameras work in the opposite way, guilty until proven innocent.

Silly constitution, how are cities supposed to make money in the name of Public Safety. Want to stop red light running, put cops at the intersections and PROPERLY ticket people who run the light.
anon

Lahaina, HI

#12 Mar 23, 2009
This is more about making money for the counties than about safety.
Excellent

Kihei, HI

#13 Mar 23, 2009
What's next? Bar coes on top of car rooves so unmanned rovers can ticket speeders, stolen cars can be located, homeless cars can be tracked, cars parked more than 24 hours in the same public spot can be fined, and ininsured motorists can be spotted? Welcome to the Brave New World.
Bob_Mililani

San Diego, CA

#14 Mar 23, 2009
These cameras will not entirely prevent people from running red lights. What they will do is catch more offenders in the act. A cop on every corner 24/7 will do the same thing, but this is not a realistic solution. What is needed, is consistency throughout the state for yellow light time and a short delay time before the cross light turns to green. The same number of seconds for every signaled intersection. This will do more to help keep drivers from running the light. Drive the street of this town and you will fine the inconsistencies. The inattentive drivers and the drivers who intentionally run the lights will continue to do so, no matter what.
Just a GI

United States

#15 Mar 23, 2009
Keoni K wrote:
We have them in Denver, the only problem I have with them is that pesky 'Bill of Rights'. Innocent until proven guilty, and all that. Cameras work in the opposite way, guilty until proven innocent.
Silly constitution, how are cities supposed to make money in the name of Public Safety. Want to stop red light running, put cops at the intersections and PROPERLY ticket people who run the light.
And since we can't afford to keep cops at intersections waiting to do tickets, we do nothing about the issue. I'll try to keep your position in mind next time I drive through the intersection where I was nearly killed by a red light runner.
George L Berish

Kapaa, HI

#16 Mar 23, 2009
With Hawaii as my home for nearly a third of a century, I still don't understand the majority who live here.

They elect lawmakers who shower tens of millions on mainland movie makers to come and pay peanuts to people to carry lights and other boxes around and call it "High Tech" as though movies are something new and fetching and carrying is skilled labor.

But when Hawaii attracts a ferry built of truly remarkable technology, they let the NMBIís drive it bankrupt.

Next the lawmakers want to make Hawaii's people highly profitable game for a mainland bounty hunters.

If mean if the goal is to pay people-hunters to hide in the electronic bushes and snare us for a buck, letís at least pay people who live here, and who like such power, to take their cameras and catch each other for money?
GLB
willie magnum 44

Wahiawa, HI

#17 Mar 23, 2009
They should install the cameras. Ultimately, people will not run the red light. They should also bring back the van... it really slowed traffic. It works.
local

Kailua, HI

#18 Mar 23, 2009
There is no privacy on a public street. That's why there're traffic lights and law enforcement to protect the public. If you can't follow the rules and law don't DRIVE!
Excellent

Kihei, HI

#19 Mar 23, 2009
willie magnum 44 wrote:
They should install the cameras. Ultimately, people will not run the red light. They should also bring back the van... it really slowed traffic. It works.
Trouble with the Pali Hwy. It's hard to slow down. Burns out the brakes and causes it to fade. Very scary.

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Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#20 Mar 23, 2009
Miss my island wrote:
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huh?
I should have elaborated. In Florida's Ybor City they have cameras to regulate criminal activity in areas known to have criminal activity with probable cause to do so.

This differs from people driving who may not run red lights yet who are set to be videotaped. I do not like Big Brother looking out over me or over anyone else WITHOUT probable cause.

Enough said.

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