A more fair Electoral College

A more fair Electoral College

There are 18 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Aug 30, 2008, titled A more fair Electoral College. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

The framers of the U.S. Constitution created the Electoral College as a result of a compromise in the presidential election process.

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We were warned

Akron, OH

#1 Aug 31, 2008
Addressing Clifford Bale's letter. What does serving in a war &/or being prisoner in a war have to do with being a good president? There were many soldiers & prisoners but that does not qualify anyone to be president.

Vietnam nor Iraq have/had nothing to do with defending our country. We need a leader with good judgment & intellect not an old solder. We never resolved anything in Vietnam nor Iraq. Iraq is in worse shape now then when we went in & we are in worse shape now except for people like bush, cheney & their cohorts. They have made millions on this war with their "no bid contracts".

Time to stop the failed economics, 10 trillion national dept, economy that supports the rich & Foreclosure Phil's failed bank loans.

If people can not agree that the wmd's was a lie or see that bush used the 9/11 momentum to steer our country into an unnecessary war, you have to at least agree (unless you do resolve your differences by knocking someone off of a bar stool or shooting them) that war should be the last resort to any conflict because the outcome is always unpredictable.

No one could have said it better = EIGHT IS ENOUGH !
Joann Thorn

United States

#2 Aug 31, 2008
I present some of McCain's words to Clifford Bale for consideration: "Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran". we have to research these things! if we go by what others say, their agendas distort everything. that includes the issue of vaccinations. if we don't know about the lies of the past, we may well accept the lies of the present and future. think and research!

Since: Jul 08

hudson, oh

#3 Aug 31, 2008
Hey Cliffy. Only the uninformed and foolish would lend credence to great leadership being linked to being a POW. And, since the bulk of the electorate appears to be blithely uninformed the plan seems to be working. On you, at least. That was 40 years ago. The world has changed.
President O bumma

Canton, OH

#4 Aug 31, 2008
We were warned wrote:
Addressing Clifford Bale's letter. What does serving in a war &/or being prisoner in a war have to do with being a good president? There were many soldiers & prisoners but that does not qualify anyone to be president.
Vietnam nor Iraq have/had nothing to do with defending our country. We need a leader with good judgment & intellect not an old solder. We never resolved anything in Vietnam nor Iraq. Iraq is in worse shape now then when we went in & we are in worse shape now except for people like bush, cheney & their cohorts. They have made millions on this war with their "no bid contracts".
Time to stop the failed economics, 10 trillion national dept, economy that supports the rich & Foreclosure Phil's failed bank loans.
If people can not agree that the wmd's was a lie or see that bush used the 9/11 momentum to steer our country into an unnecessary war, you have to at least agree (unless you do resolve your differences by knocking someone off of a bar stool or shooting them) that war should be the last resort to any conflict because the outcome is always unpredictable.
No one could have said it better = EIGHT IS ENOUGH !
6 1/2 trillion dollars went to LBJ's great society boondoggle.......Clinton brought us the greatest subprime crisis ever when he ordered the banks in 1998 to forget blueline and give loans to inner city people who couldn't afford homes in the first place and the gall to order the banks to give them a secondary loan to use as down payment.

ALL the failed programs are DEM-O-RAT in nature........
Take responsibility for these problems however they will not..........
We were warned

Akron, OH

#5 Aug 31, 2008
President O bumma wrote:
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6 1/2 trillion dollars went to LBJ's great society boondoggle.......Clinton brought us the greatest subprime crisis ever when he ordered the banks in 1998 to forget blueline and give loans to inner city people who couldn't afford homes in the first place and the gall to order the banks to give them a secondary loan to use as down payment.
ALL the failed programs are DEM-O-RAT in nature........
Take responsibility for these problems however they will not..........
You are very clear. To you it is a dem/rep issue. To real Americans that is not the issue. Just as I said Vietnam was wrong (dem president) & Iraq is wrong. You may lie to me about a taxes but unforgivable to lie to me about a war. I see you did not mention the balanced budget,& the poverty rate that Clinton left bush (which was good). Now the highest poverty rate in 30 years & the highest dept in history. With the decline in US reputation world wide, via bush, you guys just will not admit what a screw up this administration is. Start being an American instead of a blind political loyalist.
Dr Sikorsky

Canton, OH

#6 Aug 31, 2008
We were warned wrote:
<quoted text>You are very clear. To you it is a dem/rep issue. To real Americans that is not the issue. Just as I said Vietnam was wrong (dem president) & Iraq is wrong. You may lie to me about a taxes but unforgivable to lie to me about a war. I see you did not mention the balanced budget,& the poverty rate that Clinton left bush (which was good). Now the highest poverty rate in 30 years & the highest dept in history. With the decline in US reputation world wide, via bush, you guys just will not admit what a screw up this administration is. Start being an American instead of a blind political loyalist.
Clinton balanced the budget on the backs of the military, cutting the army from 10 divisions down to 2 making us the laughing stock of the world. Not being able to protect us, here is what he delivered to us
Retreat from Somalia, black hawk down
Bombing of our embassies in Africa
Clinto bombs a Aspirin factory in retaliation and diversion from his bj in the whitehouse
Uss Cole
Flight 800 by middle Eastern terrorists, and yea, it was a fuel tank spark that brought that plane down, funny we have never heard again about 747's being retrofitted for that problem.......
Swissair crash
American airlines crash in New Jersey
Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City by agents of Iraqi Nationals, remember the #rd person of interest middleeastern man...., never mind the spoonfed version of Terry Nicholsl, that was Clinton
Twin towers bombing 9-11 a direct result of Clinton not killing bin laden because he was on a tarmac in LA getting a haircut.
Deal with the facts and draw your own conclusionClinton took polls everyday to see what fools like you were FEELING and then he would act.
Since 9-11 No terrorists acts have hit our shores and you can thank GWB for that taking the war to them not here
Get all the facts..Think and then Post...
There is nothing more pathetic than a poster with some facts and mostly propaganda.
Meanie

AOL

#7 Aug 31, 2008
Dr Sikorsky wrote:
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There is nothing more pathetic than a poster with some facts and mostly propaganda.
pot, meet kettle
We were warned

Akron, OH

#8 Aug 31, 2008
Dr Sikorsky wrote:
<quoted text>
Clinton balanced the budget on the backs of the military, cutting the army from 10 divisions down to 2 making us the laughing stock of the world. Not being able to protect us, here is what he delivered to us
Retreat from Somalia, black hawk down
Bombing of our embassies in Africa
Clinto bombs a Aspirin factory in retaliation and diversion from his bj in the whitehouse
Uss Cole
Flight 800 by middle Eastern terrorists, and yea, it was a fuel tank spark that brought that plane down, funny we have never heard again about 747's being retrofitted for that problem.......
Swissair crash
American airlines crash in New Jersey
Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City by agents of Iraqi Nationals, remember the #rd person of interest middleeastern man...., never mind the spoonfed version of Terry Nicholsl, that was Clinton
Twin towers bombing 9-11 a direct result of Clinton not killing bin laden because he was on a tarmac in LA getting a haircut.
Deal with the facts and draw your own conclusionClinton took polls everyday to see what fools like you were FEELING and then he would act.
Since 9-11 No terrorists acts have hit our shores and you can thank GWB for that taking the war to them not here
Get all the facts..Think and then Post...
There is nothing more pathetic than a poster with some facts and mostly propaganda.
Just got to love it = OH perfect. bush eats cake during Katrina & sits with the school children during 9/11. Try to remember who was on watch during 9/11 & you will start to get it. Think about attacking a country that has nothing to do with 9/11 & you will start to get it. Forget politics & think about your country, or are you one of cheney's cohorts who are getting rich off of this war too? Nothing I said is propaganda just the truth but blind political loyalist can't stand the truth.
Mars Bonfire

Clearwater, FL

#9 Aug 31, 2008
Well Cliffor Wales, A lot of men have been in the service and wars and how does their country repay them? Like they were dirt. Many have also been POWs and that doesn;t make them presidential material. When looking at McCain you have to look at the whole picture. If you would do that, you would see that McCain just is not the material we want or need now. The USA already seems like it is starting to be a third world country since G. W Bush got in and MC Cain offers us the same as Bush. To vote McCain to me means that those people are out of touch with reality and are just hardcore Republicans that don't want their team to lose no matter how bad it hurts this country and its citizens.
Dr Sikorsky

Canton, OH

#10 Aug 31, 2008
We were warned wrote:
<quoted text>Just got to love it = OH perfect. bush eats cake during Katrina & sits with the school children during 9/11. Try to remember who was on watch during 9/11 & you will start to get it. Think about attacking a country that has nothing to do with 9/11 & you will start to get it. Forget politics & think about your country, or are you one of cheney's cohorts who are getting rich off of this war too? Nothing I said is propaganda just the truth but blind political loyalist can't stand the truth.
Ignorance is bliss..........
Dr Sikorsky

Canton, OH

#11 Aug 31, 2008
We were warned wrote:
<quoted text>Just got to love it = OH perfect. bush eats cake during Katrina & sits with the school children during 9/11. Try to remember who was on watch during 9/11 & you will start to get it. Think about attacking a country that has nothing to do with 9/11 & you will start to get it. Forget politics & think about your country, or are you one of cheney's cohorts who are getting rich off of this war too? Nothing I said is propaganda just the truth but blind political loyalist can't stand the truth.
More Ignorance.....The 9-11 plot wasn't thought up in the eight short months of GWB term it was thought up by a wimp of a president who thought more of self satisfaction then he did the country. It sickens me that the foolish people elected him 2 times. History will tell the story of this Morally bankrupt individual, he belongs in the dustbin of history.
Mars Bonfire

Clearwater, FL

#12 Aug 31, 2008
John L. Kleja, they don't care if you can afford it. If you can't afford it they want you to leave or die. They are basically telling you that you can no longer serve their purpose to live among them if you can't pay. They want you to go live with family or in a trailer park so someone with money can move into the home you worked so hard for. Governments have this idea that you should be loyal to them while they in turn have no loyalty or respeect for you and yours. When a government gets to that point, they can kiss my bottom.
We were warned

Akron, OH

#13 Aug 31, 2008
Dr Sikorsky wrote:
<quoted text>
More Ignorance.....The 9-11 plot wasn't thought up in the eight short months of GWB term it was thought up by a wimp of a president who thought more of self satisfaction then he did the country. It sickens me that the foolish people elected him 2 times. History will tell the story of this Morally bankrupt individual, he belongs in the dustbin of history.
The only ignorance is bush & defending a his failed policies.(just listen to him talk) What will it take for political loyal fools to stop defending him. Enough scandals, enough torture, enough lies, enough of president's that think they are above the law!
Talk about ignorance, sounds like you still believe bush attacked Iraq because of 9/11. Exactly what I mean. You guys defend bush with more lies. Do what your type does best, when someone calls you a name hit someone else that had nothing to do with it.
Do some home work & stop listening to fox noise or you will never understand that the last 8 years are America's worst.
Meanie

AOL

#14 Aug 31, 2008
Dr Sikorsky wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignorance is bliss..........
Then you must be freaking ECSTATIC!
George N

Greer, SC

#15 Aug 31, 2008
Old quote from Margaret Thatcher:

"I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand "I have a problem, it is the Government's job to cope with it!" or "I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!" "I am homeless, the Government must house me!" and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations..."
Joann Thorn

Akron, OH

#16 Aug 31, 2008
Dr Sikorsky wrote: "Twin towers bombing 9-11 a direct result of Clinton not killing bin laden because he was on a tarmac in LA getting a haircut."
come on, already. a guy in a cave on dialysis. that's as laughable as the "single bullet theory".

Dr S again: "The 9-11 plot wasn't thought up in the eight short months of GWB term it was thought up by a wimp of a president who thought more of self satisfaction then he did the country."
wimpy presidents, whichever one you pick, do not think up plots such as 911. they are high-stakes plots thought up and accomplished by the most psychopathic elitists imaginable. wimpy presidents do the cheerleading for policies based on lies.
Meanie

AOL

#17 Aug 31, 2008
George N wrote:
Old quote from Margaret Thatcher:
"I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand "I have a problem, it is the Government's job to cope with it!" or "I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!" "I am homeless, the Government must house me!" and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations..."
And how well is old Maggie's brain working today?
Kurt Kuster

Pleasanton, CA

#18 Sep 2, 2008
I think of myself as belonging to the most important block of voters in any U.S. Presidential election. I’m an undecided moderate more than willing to cross party lines. I admit, I usually lean toward the Democratic side of the ticket, but this year I was giving John McCain a serious look.
You see, I don’t believe Barack Obama has the experience to be president, and I don’t see him as someone who has, or even knows how to, make a significant impact when it comes to actual legislation. He seems to have two real talents. One, giving great speeches. And two, leaving a job before anyone begins to demand results. I want more than a one term senator who has spent half of his time in Washington campaigning for another job, the presidency. The one thing I can give him credit for is picking a qualified VP candidate. Joseph Biden, in my opinion has a long career of effective legislation, but he also has moments that have left me wondering just what he was thinking.
Because of this, I was leaning toward McCain. I kind of liked the guy, and more importantly I respected him and felt some confidence in his judgment. Then, he picks as a running mate the most unqualified person in the last 100 years to be his running mate. Sarah Palin has been a small city mayor and the Governor of Alaska. She has no foreign policy experience, no national legislative experience, and her dealings with the Alaska State Police raise a few questions as well. McCain’s choice has made me rethink my pick.
We are two months away from the election. I am still undecided, which I expected. The surprise is that I am unimpressed with either side, and disappointed with both. I wonder how many others feel the same.

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