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Tom
Saint Paul, MN
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And they want Obamacare. This is the future of healthcare as we know it if the Obama plan goes through. Way to go people.
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tina
Saint Paul, MN
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dude - one has nothing to do with the other.
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Good
Chicago, IL
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Corn suckers, stay out of MN
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“If the truth hurts, change.”
Since: Jun 09
Minneapolis, MN
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They are completely linked. Obamacare will in effect lower reimbursements to health care facilities, since it is clear that the government will decide how much those facilities make on a procedure. Which will result in what is happening here. And Obamacare will also be structured much like Medicaid, funded by tax dollars.
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batman
Vergennes, VT
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Under obamacare clinics will not be able to provide service under cost becasue there will be no other programs to charge more then cost too.
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TiVo Girl
Minnetonka, MN
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This shows why we need more government-run health care. NOT! What this does is PROVE that government-run health care doesn't work! We currently have two government-run health care programs (Medicare and Medicaid), neither of which run properly, are rife with fraud, waste and corruption, and the Obamatons want a third? You fix the first two to prove to us that the government knows best (yeah, right), and then maybe we'll consider it. Not before.
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Friend of the Milwaukee 3
Menomonie, WI
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And it's senator from Nebraska and Montana who are voting against affordable health care in their committees. Way to take care of your people, Max and all.
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Go Green
New Richmond, WI
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Tom wrote: And they want Obamacare. This is the future of healthcare as we know it if the Obama plan goes through. Way to go people. Did you or did you not read the article, it's happening without Obama's help, so regardless, it's going on anyway. Duh.
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Bruce
Saint Paul, MN
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TiVo Girl wrote: This shows why we need more government-run health care. NOT! What this does is PROVE that government-run health care doesn't work! We currently have two government-run health care programs (Medicare and Medicaid), neither of which run properly, are rife with fraud, waste and corruption, and the Obamatons want a third? You fix the first two to prove to us that the government knows best (yeah, right), and then maybe we'll consider it. Not before. They claim tey will pay for it by eliminating waste and fraud in Medicare. Eliminate the waste and fraud. Democrats blocked that when that was tried. Now they claim they will do it if they can spend it and more on something else. Eliminate the waste and fraud because it is the right thing to do. Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, Rangel. What a bunch of frauds and crooks.
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Aaron
Baxter, MN
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Go Green wrote: <quoted text> Did you or did you not read the article, it's happening without Obama's help, so regardless, it's going on anyway. Duh. So we should just continue on with it and expand it right.
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Jeff
Decatur, IL
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TiVo Girl wrote: This shows why we need more government-run health care. NOT! What this does is PROVE that government-run health care doesn't work! We currently have two government-run health care programs (Medicare and Medicaid), neither of which run properly, are rife with fraud, waste and corruption, and the Obamatons want a third? You fix the first two to prove to us that the government knows best (yeah, right), and then maybe we'll consider it. Not before. You forgot the worst run government healthcare plan, the VA. That makes the gov. 0-3 in successful healthcare plans.
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Aaron
Baxter, MN
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"From March 1, 2007, to March 10 of last year, Medicare rejected 475,566 of 6.94 million claims for a rate of 6.85%. Aetna was the only private insurer that had a similar number, denying 43,317 of 637,239 claims for a rate of 6.8%. But the average of seven carriers was 4.05% including Aetna. Dropping Aetna as an outlier takes the denial rate down to 3.08%. Medicare's biggest reason for rejection (27.8%) was claims lacking information "needed for adjudication," the AMA report says. More than one-fifth (20.9%) of the rejections were in response to procedures deemed not to be a medical necessity by Medicare. Nearly 4% were rejected because they were noncovered services performed during a routine exam or screening. In 3.1% of the cases, Medicare said the expenses were incurred before the patient was covered — a pre-existing condition. Other claims were denied because the patient wasn't covered by Medicare or couldn't be identified as a Medicare recipient, or there were paperwork problems." http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Arti...
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Mike
Byron, MN
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OMG! Most of you look at a situation through such a small keyhole. First of all, the Mayo clinic is one of the most Expensive places to go! If you want government medical coverage like medicare or medicaid or(Obamacare), fine but don't expect the most expensive. Our Medicare and Medicaid is BLEEDING because of going to these very expensive health care facilities. If you want the best, keep and pay for your own damn healthcare insurance!!!!!!! Thats what it's all about!!!!! It's like sending your kids to public school, it good and they will get a good education or you can spend a lot more out your own pocket and go to a private school. I also GUARANTEE that Mayo would have to shut it's doors without all the Medicaid and Medicare patients they currently receive.
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juanpablo
Evergreen, CO
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Go Green wrote: <quoted text> Did you or did you not read the article, it's happening without Obama's help, so regardless, it's going on anyway. Duh. I wanted to judge it, but unfortunaly, they did not have moron as an option. Medicade is funded by the taxpayer and is government run. Imagine when the government tries to run the entire medical system.
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Sideshow Bob
Saint Paul, MN
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Mike wrote: OMG! Most of you look at a situation through such a small keyhole. First of all, the Mayo clinic is one of the most Expensive places to go! If you want government medical coverage like medicare or medicaid or(Obamacare), fine but don't expect the most expensive. Our Medicare and Medicaid is BLEEDING because of going to these very expensive health care facilities. If you want the best, keep and pay for your own damn healthcare insurance!!!!!!! Thats what it's all about!!!!! It's like sending your kids to public school, it good and they will get a good education or you can spend a lot more out your own pocket and go to a private school. I also GUARANTEE that Mayo would have to shut it's doors without all the Medicaid and Medicare patients they currently receive. Please provide your source for the Mayo clinic being one of the most expensive places to go. It is not, it is less expensive than most, including Nebraska. Inexpensive and highest quality care, a good combination. The federal government just reimburses less to Minnesota hospitals than it does to East and West Coast ones. I will await your link to a source showing how expensive Mayo clinic is, otherwise, a retraction is likely in order.
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Mike
Byron, MN
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Aaron wrote: "From March 1, 2007, to March 10 of last year, Medicare rejected 475,566 of 6.94 million claims for a rate of 6.85%. Aetna was the only private insurer that had a similar number, denying 43,317 of 637,239 claims for a rate of 6.8%. But the average of seven carriers was 4.05% including Aetna. Dropping Aetna as an outlier takes the denial rate down to 3.08%. Medicare's biggest reason for rejection (27.8%) was claims lacking information "needed for adjudication," the AMA report says. More than one-fifth (20.9%) of the rejections were in response to procedures deemed not to be a medical necessity by Medicare. Nearly 4% were rejected because they were noncovered services performed during a routine exam or screening. In 3.1% of the cases, Medicare said the expenses were incurred before the patient was covered — a pre-existing condition. Other claims were denied because the patient wasn't covered by Medicare or couldn't be identified as a Medicare recipient, or there were paperwork problems." http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Arti... All your mumbo jumbo aside, how were these particular health care providers chosen for this article! I mean Medicare accounts for approximately 2/3 of the patients!!!! This article is written by some John Doe with an investment side of the pitch! Some of these health care providers offer many medicare supplement plans! So I don't know what this article is trying to tell me except that there are ALOT OF PEOPLE ON MEDICARE!!!!!!!!!
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Mike
Byron, MN
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Sideshow Bob wrote: <quoted text>Please provide your source for the Mayo clinic being one of the most expensive places to go. It is not, it is less expensive than most, including Nebraska. Inexpensive and highest quality care, a good combination. The federal government just reimburses less to Minnesota hospitals than it does to East and West Coast ones. I will await your link to a source showing how expensive Mayo clinic is, otherwise, a retraction is likely in order. I've gotten pricing for multiple procedures for myself and my wife and they were always the highest. Shouldn't everyone call and get pricing for procedures or products? I do, don't you?
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Aaron
Baxter, MN
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"A plumber whose arm was left twisted grotesquely out of shape in an accident ten months ago has had an operation to correct it 'cancelled four times'. Torron Eeles, 50, has been left unable to work since falling down the stairs and now fears he may lose his home after being denied incapacity benefit. The father-of-three today hit out at the NHS for the 'unacceptable delays', but East and North Hertfordshire NHS Trust said Mr Eeles had his operation cancelled on 'only' two occasions on clinical safety grounds. His left arm has hung limply by his side since he fractured the humerus bone in December 2008. Mr Eeles, from Welham Green, Hertfordshire, applied for employment and support allowance but a doctor ruled he is ineligible for both because he can turn on a tap." Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12189...
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Aaron
Baxter, MN
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Mike wrote: <quoted text> All your mumbo jumbo aside, how were these particular health care providers chosen for this article! I mean Medicare accounts for approximately 2/3 of the patients!!!! This article is written by some John Doe with an investment side of the pitch! Some of these health care providers offer many medicare supplement plans! So I don't know what this article is trying to tell me except that there are ALOT OF PEOPLE ON MEDICARE!!!!!!!!! Medicare rejection rate is higher than the private sector.
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Mike
Byron, MN
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FYI - The Mayo Clinic is a fantastic place. I just don't need to go there for every procedure. Though I am sure there are some procedures I would pay the extra $$$ to go there and go nowhere else. Anyway, this is a comment section, not a debate section.....sorry and good health to all!:)
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