Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75921 Aug 20, 2014
REFERENCES

1. B. N. Narahari Achar, Origin of Indian Civilization, Edited by Bal Ram Singh, Center for Indic Studies, Dartmought, USA, 2010, p. 203.

2. Nicholas Kazanas, Origin of Indian Civilization, Edited by Bal Ram Singh, Center for Indic Studies, Dartmought, USA, 2010, p. 53.

3. B. N. Narahari Achar, Origin of Indian Civilization, Edited by Bal Ram Singh, Center for Indic Studies, Dartmought, USA, 2010, p. 225.

4. Ibid., p. 231.

5. Ibid., p. 244.

6. Nicholas Kazanas, Origin of Indian Civilization, Edited by Bal Ram Singh, Center for Indic Studies, Dartmouth, USA, 2010, p. 53.

7. V. S. Agrawal, India in the Days of Panini, 1953.

8. B. N. Narahari Achar, Origin of Indian Civilization, Edited by Bal Ram Singh, Center for Indic Studies, Dartmought, USA, 2010, p. 246-7.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75922 Aug 20, 2014
ANCIENT CITY OF KRISHNA DATING BACK 9,000 YEARS FOUND

1) Marine archaeological explorations since the 1980s off Dwarka have brought to light a large number of stone structures. They are are semicircular, rectangular and square in shape and are in water depth ranging from inter tidal zone to 6 m. They are randomly scattered over a vast area. Besides these structures, a large number of varieties of stone anchors have been noticed along the structures as well as beyond 6 m water depth.

2) These findings recorded by the Archaeological Survey of India suggest that Dwarka was one of the most busy port centers during the past on the west coast of India. The comparative study of surrounding sites indicates that the date of the structures of Dwarka may be between Historical period and late medieval period. Mainstream scientists maintain that ancient Indian culture/civilization goes back some 4-5 thousand years. Yet the ruins below the Gulf of Cambay go back at least 9 thousand years, i.e. to the time when the area submerged under water. This means that the city must have existed before the flooding, i.e. at least 9000 years ago.

3) The explorations conducted in the Gulf of Cambay waters revealed sandstone walls, a grid of streets and some evidence of a sea port 70 feet under water. The ruins have been proclaimed the remains of the legendary lost city of Dwarka which, according to ancient Hindu texts, was the dwelling place of the deity known as Krishna.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75923 Aug 20, 2014
The submerged Dwarka ruins fully discovered in 2000 and investigated with acoustic techniques, are known as the Gulf of Khambat Cultural Complex. They’re 131 feet beneath the surface. One of the artifacts dredged up by scientists was dated around 7500 BCE, which could support the theories that it is, in fact, the ancient Dwarka.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75924 Aug 20, 2014
JOEL wrote:
ANCIENT CITY OF KRISHNA DATING BACK 9,000 YEARS FOUND
1) Marine archaeological explorations since the 1980s off Dwarka have brought to light a large number of stone structures. They are are semicircular, rectangular and square in shape and are in water depth ranging from inter tidal zone to 6 m. They are randomly scattered over a vast area. Besides these structures, a large number of varieties of stone anchors have been noticed along the structures as well as beyond 6 m water depth.
Aha, proof of the great flood.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#75925 Aug 20, 2014
JOEL wrote:
ANCIENT CITY OF KRISHNA DATING BACK 9,000 YEARS FOUND

3) The explorations conducted in the Gulf of Cambay waters revealed sandstone walls, a grid of streets and some evidence of a sea port 70 feet under water. The ruins have been proclaimed the remains of the legendary lost city of Dwarka which, according to ancient Hindu texts, was the dwelling place of the deity known as Krishna.
I guess Krishna didnt fare so well, did he?

Maybe you should reconsider Yawe
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75926 Aug 20, 2014
MORE ON MIND-MATTER:

A)

1) QM is unreliable when it comes to predicting the outcome of events of multiple particle systems and so it cannot be taken very seriously. Even when dealing with a single or a double electron system the explanations put forward appear more an exercise of the observer attempting to foist his own pet explanations via recording detectors and complex mathematical equations as to why the system behaves the way it does, while, OTOH, a mystic can see the same system in a totally different way as say comprising a fluid concentrate of various pulses of "purposeful" energy, of which his own sentient energy field is a manifestation in the universal mind-matter matrix, that appears to configure the system in a particular way, which, on account of its apparent stability, stays constant or remains unchanging in the absence of the emergence in the system of the deeper causal mechanisms that could be more fundamental than the quantum laws or due to the absence of an infusion of a dose of directed energy into the concerned system that comes about via the conscious will of a person from his own fund of sentient energies that can possibly alter the expected outcome.

2) Besides, in view of the above and on account of other explanations that subsequently follow in this missive, it does appear that there exist(s) a layer, or several of them, that is/are more fundamental to existence than even the quantum level. These infra-QM layers could be the planes or the realms where intelligent principles inherent in energy fields gradually emerge as a set of differing frequencies in manifest form from a state of involution by a series of interactions among the energy waves of the system acting at these subtle levels.

3) At higher levels of material organization like say in the animal neural networks, the inherent intelligent principles in the pulsating energy fields get even more self-expressed and become self-aware in higher entities like humans whose brains/ nervous systems are complex enough to exhibit the higher degrees of the emergent consciousness imbued with intelligent properties.

4) Supported by a growing body of logical/empirical evidence, it would not be out of context to say that a powerful mind can manipulate bodily processes, like, say, in the case of self-healing of morbid psychological, emotional or bodily conditions or suspending the functioning of the heart or brain or respiration at will, or the case of distance healing or being able to influence events at a distance if the power of concentration is potent enough or the case of remote viewing that intel agencies have sufficient evidence of or the medically confirmed experiences that accrue during OBEs and NDEs which provide those human subjects with nonlocal or premonitory or omnijective experiences of the subject merging with the object kind with these OBE/NDE experiences constituting phenomena of altered states of existence with the indwelling sentient energy field in the brain outgrowing its limitations while at the same time the gross body machinery enters a state of catalepsy or corroborated cases of reincarnation or the case of premonitory dreams that fulfill themselves in amazing detail at a later date among other uncanny happenings that standard physico-chemical models fail to explain. All of this points towards the nonlocality of smart energy radiating from the brain, eyes, heart and other bodily parts like say the finger tips as verified by researchers at HeartMath and at other institutions and conversely being acted upon by sentient energy fields radiating from other human bodies clearly indicate that the brain, and possibly the heart, aside from being the bodily instruments that house the indwelling emergent human consciousness as explained above also serve as a receiving station for incoming sentient energies.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75927 Aug 20, 2014
B)

5) Science is at a complete loss to explain/execute these - origin of life, failure to synthesis life from scratch, inability to revive a dead organism, inability to explain intent and qualia as seen in the case of Anna baking a pie which the scientist can chemically analyse but cannot say why she baked it or how the pie tasted to the persons she served it. Other failures of science pertain to dubious theories put forward to explain the fine tuning of the universe at the macro/micro levels - this question of fine tuning is another great puzzle that cannot be solved using illogical and unobserved and unverified multiverse models and even if true that our universe is one out of the several hundreds of billions of universes of different spatio-temporal dimensions that manifest from the so-called vacuum state with somehow the fine tuning falling in place in just our universe due to all the essential physical constants being bunched neatly together that as a result displays remarkable order and capacity to develop life indicates the law of probability at work but nevertheless such vague models cannot tell us why the fundamental physical constants exist or how they came into existence or how did they get digitilized in such precise ways.

6) Order and precision and intent/purpose at any level of existence or of organization indicate an innate intelligent principle at work in an energy system. This is the only sane conclusion that a thinking individual can draw in the absence of credible scientific explanations that fail to account for the origin of the universe(s), fine tuning, phenomenon of life, origin of life and sentient phenomena like premonitory drams coming true, verified cases of reincarnation, remote viewing, heightened insights gained into the workings of the mind-matter matrix during OBE/NDE, telepathy and others that defy the laws of gross matter. Till today, we only know what energy can do not what it is as basic substance. As for how intelligence emerges in energy fields, none can say why this is so.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75928 Aug 20, 2014
Poor Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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Location hidden

#75932 Aug 20, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
Abraham lived in Ur but wasn't from there. Mesopotamian cities had sections inhabited by various outside ethnic groups who were there mostly for trade. Abraham's group at that point could be considered Hebrew or perhaps still Canaanite, but the two ethnicities derived from the same ancestors, who were “proto-Canaanites”. The Hebrews, thererfore, were from the Levant. They had lived in the Levant, which includes the territory of modern Israel, for a very long time. Likely they had been involved in the creation of the Neolithic some 12,000 years ago.
One DNA analysis of the “Palestinians” showed them to be largely of Bedouin origin, which means they came from Arabia.
Canaanites were Hamites, Jews Semites. And totally agree Palestinians are of Arabian origin, Jews of the levant were in fact from the land of Israel.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#75933 Aug 21, 2014
JOEL wrote:
B)
5) Science is at a complete loss to explain/execute these - inability to revive a dead organism,.
I, for one, am cool with that.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75934 Aug 21, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

I, for one, am cool with that.
That's because everything about you is very superficial.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75935 Aug 21, 2014
DIRECT EXPERIENCES WITH THE LIFE FORCE

1) In my exposure to supraphysical experiences in the past, I have come into direct contact with the "animating principle" in the sentient energy field that's figuratively called the life-force.

2) It has a super-quick zig-zag running motion with tremors as it pulsates through the nerves and body cells.

3) Once, during such a preliminary experience with this animating frequency of energy, I observed that whatever I touched or simply stared at became "animated" - cooked rice grains became animated, lentil soup became animated, a fallen leaf became animated and so on. On holding a dried red chilly, a blue spark was given out and the phenomenon being nonlocal in nature drained away quite a bit of the animated energy from my fingers and wrist leaving them limp and painful for at least half an hour or so after which they gradually revived as the drained out energy was restored from infusions of the same grade of energy coming into the affected parts from the rest of the body and from the air. In addition, I could perceive the animating current moving in a closed loop pattern at lightning speed as it moved out of the body through the right thumb and re-entered the body through the right index finger. Any attempt to press together both these fingers created an unbalanced pressure leading to erratic palpitation, uneven breathing and dizziness in the head and so the thumb and index fingers should be kept free of contact with each other as far as possible for best results.

4) So, to synthesize life from scratch or to revive a dead organism would require the emergence in the system of this special grade of energy with its unique characteristics. as described above.

5) In particular, what I noted during those heightened experiences with the animating energy is that the body's energy field (pertaining to this particular animating aspect that works at a specific frequency of vibration) opens out and directly connects with the universal energy field of the same grade and frequency of vibration thereby giving rise to an influx into the body of those particular animating impulses from the universal field that have the capacity to animate or to enliven a system.

6) The color of this animating grade of energy is shiny blue and it has a high electrical-kind of charge to it that when in motion is heard inwardly as the sound created by a whizzing rocket travelling at a very very high speed. It simply "electrifies" the body in a novel manner leaving one shaking when one comes into direct contact with it even to a slight degree. The sound has a somewhat metallic feel to it and creates tremors and shocks as it vibrates/moves.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#75936 Aug 21, 2014
JOEL wrote:
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That's because everything about you is very superficial.
from the guy who has spent YEARS engaged in mastubatory soliloquy
BigRabbit

Adelaide, Australia

#75939 Aug 22, 2014
JOEL wrote:
DIRECT EXPERIENCES WITH THE LIFE FORCE
1) In my exposure to supraphysical experiences in the past, I have come into direct contact with the "animating principle" in the sentient energy field that's figuratively called the life-force.
2) It has a super-quick zig-zag running motion with tremors as it pulsates through the nerves and body cells.
3) Once, during such a preliminary experience with this animating frequency of energy, I observed that whatever I touched or simply stared at became "animated" - cooked rice grains became animated, lentil soup became animated, a fallen leaf became animated and so on. On holding a dried red chilly, a blue spark was given out and the phenomenon being nonlocal in nature drained away quite a bit of the animated energy from my fingers and wrist leaving them limp and painful for at least half an hour or so after which they gradually revived as the drained out energy was restored from infusions of the same grade of energy coming into the affected parts from the rest of the body and from the air. In addition, I could perceive the animating current moving in a closed loop pattern at lightning speed as it moved out of the body through the right thumb and re-entered the body through the right index finger. Any attempt to press together both these fingers created an unbalanced pressure leading to erratic palpitation, uneven breathing and dizziness in the head and so the thumb and index fingers should be kept free of contact with each other as far as possible for best results.
4) So, to synthesize life from scratch or to revive a dead organism would require the emergence in the system of this special grade of energy with its unique characteristics. as described above.
5) In particular, what I noted during those heightened experiences with the animating energy is that the body's energy field (pertaining to this particular animating aspect that works at a specific frequency of vibration) opens out and directly connects with the universal energy field of the same grade and frequency of vibration thereby giving rise to an influx into the body of those particular animating impulses from the universal field that have the capacity to animate or to enliven a system.
6) The color of this animating grade of energy is shiny blue and it has a high electrical-kind of charge to it that when in motion is heard inwardly as the sound created by a whizzing rocket travelling at a very very high speed. It simply "electrifies" the body in a novel manner leaving one shaking when one comes into direct contact with it even to a slight degree. The sound has a somewhat metallic feel to it and creates tremors and shocks as it vibrates/moves.
Was this a mushroom experience? No one reads the whole text but it sounds like you are a tripper?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#75940 Aug 22, 2014
BigRabbit wrote:
<quoted text>
Was this a mushroom experience? No one reads the whole text but it sounds like you are a tripper?
No, he spends vasts amounts of personal energy cutting and pasting. He is too much of a misanthrope to enjoy mushrooms.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75941 Aug 22, 2014
BigRabbit wrote:
<quoted text>

Was this a mushroom experience? No one reads the whole text but it sounds like you are a tripper?
Tripper? Drugs? LOL.

No, that was one of the several yogic experiences that I have had over the years.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75942 Aug 22, 2014
BigRabbit wrote:
<quoted text>

Was this a mushroom experience? No one reads the whole text but it sounds like you are a tripper?
What is reality, according to you?

What is the aim of life, in general? Why?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75943 Aug 22, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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from the guy who has spent YEARS engaged in mastubatory soliloquy
Did you masturbate your boyfriend, yesterday, homo? LOL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75944 Aug 22, 2014
MEN BEAT A WOMAN

Meanwhile, in a shameful incident in Meerut, India, a young jeans-clad female rushed in to save her aged father from street goons who were kicking and punching him over a petty quarrel involving violation of traffic rules which the old man voiced his protest against. Neither did a policemen nor did the dozens of bystanders intervene to save the old man from being beaten. It was then that his brave-heart daughter stepped to save her dad and began pulling away and slapping a couple of the goons and shockingly they beat her in turn and almost dragged off her tee-shirt under which she was wearing a micro-bra. The goons kept on raining blows and kicks on both father and daughter and fled the scene. The Chief Minister of the state instead of taking offense at the ghastly event questioned the integrity of the female and many politicians went on record saying the woman was in the wrong and should have lodged a FIR to begin with. Shame.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75945 Aug 22, 2014
GAY PERVERSION NORMALIZED ON TV

The Fosters "family" TV drama consists of an inter-racial lesbian couple with children from different parents and races making the scenario appear "normal" - 2 % homosexuals in a society set the example for 98% straight people. Casual sex, divorce, extra-marital flings, teen pregnancy, abortion and other degradations have already been promoted over the decades to the maximum by the mass media that is controlled by powerful lobbies with vested interests and as a result these perversions have taken strong roots in society in most places in the world. Next, I guess, pedophilia, rape, and human sacrifice will be sought to be propagated as normal behavior as if they're not being subtly promoted by persons who have a sinister agenda which is to degrade the moral standards of people everywhere so as to turn them into non-thinking sheeple being led towards self-destruction.

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