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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#51834 May 6, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you see the proviso at the beginning of my post: "Speaking solely of Illinois"? Are you telling me that what I said is incorrect as applied in Illinois?
rabbee: well, yes!
Eric

Roselle, IL

#51835 May 6, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: well, yes!
So now you are licensed to practice law in the state of Illinois. Plus you know more about IL law than the IL Supreme Court.

Can you give us a citation then to the correct law in IL?
Eric

Roselle, IL

#51836 May 6, 2013
By the way, in IL an officer in pursuit does not have to stop the pursuit if the driver leaves the jurisdiction. Plus, officers in neighboring cities have cross over jurisdiction. But, in IL only commissioned officers can enforce the law. And, only governmental bodies can adopt traffic laws, with the exception to HOA as to their own members according to the IL Supreme Court.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51837 May 6, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
"Local flesh?" you say. Can you be more specific? Whose or what flesh were you offering? Perhaps your sister's?
I see you have a sweet tooth:
Milo (pron.:/&#712;ma&#618; lo&#650;/) is a chocolate and malt powder which is mixed with hot or cold water and/or milk to produce a beverage popular in many parts of the world. Produced by NestlÚ, Milo was originally developed by Thomas Mayne in Sydney, Australia in 1934.[1] It is marketed and sold in many countries around the world.
Was that a yes or no about the Red Strip beer?
HughBe--- You should come back to paradise and when you do you should try the local flesh.

Former---"Local flesh?" you say. Can you be more specific? Whose or what flesh were you offering? Perhaps your sister's?

HughBe--- No dear keep your mind clean, I was thinking of local beef, lamb etc.:D

Former---I see you have a sweet tooth:

HughBe--- Our local flesh is NOT SWEET it is closer to being salt than sweet. We have Salt fish which is regarded by some to be the best in the world. Would you be interested in EATING our salt FISH?

Former--Was that a yes or no about the Red Strip beer?

HughBe-- I am not a consumer of beer
Voluntarist

United States

#51838 May 6, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, Jimmie, I defer to your expertise when we are talking about engineering. I would hope that you would defer to my expertise when we are talking about law.
HOA's are not governmental bodies. They have no authority outside of their members.
In Illinois there are many locations where government cannot provide police patrols that people would like. In the areas outside city limits, there are ways for the people to supplement their taxes to add additional patrols. The IL the Supreme Court has said that subdivisions can pay for rent-a-cops but the limit of their jurisdiction is the members of the subdivision.
State law also allows groups of people to vote to raise their taxes so that the money can go to the sheriff to add additional patrols.
Please stick with engineering and leave the law to others.
They govern through their agreements.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#51839 May 6, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
So now you are licensed to practice law in the state of Illinois. Plus you know more about IL law than the IL Supreme Court.
Can you give us a citation then to the correct law in IL?
rabbee: i have seen some of those decisions from the illinois supreme court. and i am not impressed, by their ability to not abide by their constitution. so do not tell me, that the illinois supreme court is anything to be proud of.

supreme courts are not supposed to judge. according to the way, they way they want. with total disreguard, for the way the founders meant for it to be used.

and yes i have seen and read, the illinois constution. which is practicly the same, for every state in the union, except for the commonwealth of virginia. where ever city, county and hoa, are their own republic with their own version of the constitution.
Voluntarist

United States

#51840 May 6, 2013
Eric wrote:
By the way, in IL an officer in pursuit does not have to stop the pursuit if the driver leaves the jurisdiction. Plus, officers in neighboring cities have cross over jurisdiction. But, in IL only commissioned officers can enforce the law. And, only governmental bodies can adopt traffic laws, with the exception to HOA as to their own members according to the IL Supreme Court.
In Connecticut it states in the so called constitution that the legislature makes law, so some ordinances crafted by local pud face gangsters at town hall cant be considered law.
Voluntarist

United States

#51841 May 6, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
So now you are licensed to practice law in the state of Illinois. Plus you know more about IL law than the IL Supreme Court.
Can you give us a citation then to the correct law in IL?
Illinois is a mess, that monopoly of force gets away with murder.
Voluntarist

United States

#51842 May 6, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't agree with everything my gov't does.
I didn't believe in W using my tax dollars to invade the wrong country in 2002.
That was a taking of my property (my money) for a reason I didn't agree with. This was also enriching private contractors - Halliburton etc. Why should I line the pockets of Cheney's friends and colleagues?
But you asked me if it was moral. Moral - no. But ethical, strictly speaking - yes. It was within the law.
Laws under a form of gov't with which I agree. I have no better form of gov't to propose.
I don't believe in allowing the perfect becoming the enemy of the good.
Do believe in social contracts?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract
In political philosophy the social contract or political contractis a theory or model, originating during the Age of Enlightenment, that typically addresses the questions of the origin of society and the legitimacy of the authority of the state over the individual.[1] Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority of the ruler or magistrate (or to the decision of a majority), in exchange for protection of their remaining rights. The question of the relation between natural and legal rights, therefore, is often an aspect of social contract theory.
And what are the elements of a contract and are they present in government dealings?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#51843 May 6, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
So now you are licensed to practice law in the state of Illinois. Plus you know more about IL law than the IL Supreme Court.
Can you give us a citation then to the correct law in IL?
rabbee: they should not have to, change the constitution. just use it the way, the founders meant for it to be used. it is not supposed to be a court, where the few can suppress the rights of the many. and is supposed to avoid, decision about religions activities as much as possible. unless they have become a danger, to the common good, healh or welfare of the state or nation.

i am presently preparing a case, of someone in one state vs someone else in another. so i have to bone up, on their states constitution too. now i must consider, in which district court is in my advantage to file. theirs or colorado's, ninth district. do i file a js44 in their state district federal court, or in colorado federal district court.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#51844 May 6, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
In Connecticut it states in the so called constitution that the legislature makes law, so some ordinances crafted by local pud face gangsters at town hall cant be considered law.
incorrect

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51845 May 6, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
And what are the elements of a contract and are they present in government dealings?
conĚtract (kntrkt)
n.
1.
a. An agreement between two or more parties, especially one that is written and enforceable by law. See Synonyms at bargain.
b. The writing or document containing such an agreement.

I.E. it doesnt necessarily have to have its elements spelled out, it can be oral and implied
Voluntarist

United States

#51846 May 6, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
That sounds a lot like Voluntarist's voluntary government.
Sorry, I just raped, robbed and mutilated your relatives, but since I didnt buy into your self government, there is nothing you can do about it.....
A truly voluntary government would need consent of all parties.
An hoa is just an example.
If only the government would stick to protecting life, liberty and property we wouldnt have these problems.
Voluntarist

United States

#51847 May 6, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
conĚtract (kntrkt)
n.
1.
a. An agreement between two or more parties, especially one that is written and enforceable by law. See Synonyms at bargain.
b. The writing or document containing such an agreement.
I.E. it doesnt necessarily have to have its elements spelled out, it can be oral and implied
Dont be a dolt, in order for a contract to be valid it must contain certain elements.
Voluntarist

United States

#51848 May 6, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
conĚtract (kntrkt)
n.
1.
a. An agreement between two or more parties, especially one that is written and enforceable by law. See Synonyms at bargain.
b. The writing or document containing such an agreement.
I.E. it doesnt necessarily have to have its elements spelled out, it can be oral and implied
Even if it is oral or implied there are still elements that have to be there to make the provisions of the contract enforceable.
Voluntarist

United States

#51849 May 6, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
incorrect
Prove it.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#51850 May 6, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
conĚtract (kntrkt)
n.
1.
a. An agreement between two or more parties, especially one that is written and enforceable by law. See Synonyms at bargain.
b. The writing or document containing such an agreement.
I.E. it doesnt necessarily have to have its elements spelled out, it can be oral and implied
rabbee: oral agreements gets, kind of sticky. since should it involve the courts, you need at a least one credible wittness who heard the agreement. one persons word against another, is a tough road to hoe.

and most major contracts, are generally filed with the courts or magistrates office, or county clerk etc. and you will find that many contracts, are on court available forms. or court acceptable forms, as modified by an attorney.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#51851 May 6, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.
You've failed to understand the context and meaning of the line - "quality is inversely proportional to quantity".
Let's analyze the logic to show that you're wrong.
Here goes:
We clearly have 2 distinct sets of people in the world -
1) The intellectual elites who're as expected very few in number.
2) The masses who constitute the majority.
So, in this sense, when we talk of the masses who comprise the overwhelming majority of people, we invariably observe a dramatic drop in quality (whereas the intellectual elites who're in a minority constitute the high quality people in the world).
Now, let's push the analysis further.
The intellectual elites are always in a minority but usually it's seen that whatever they think, say or do is usually of a consistently high quality and so logically speaking we set up a direct proportion for this relationship - a top notch intellectual is highly productive and so the number of his high quality thoughts, words and deeds number a lot and as these are consistently of a high quality thus the output (number of high quality thoughts, words and deeds) of a top-end intellectual is high and since these are usually of a high quality thus there exists a direct relationship (proportion) between the two.
So, to reiterate the point, we see a direct proportionality between the large number of an intellectual's thoughts, words and deeds and the high quality of the same.
So, you're wrong in your reasoning as usual.
ROFL.
You should have given that clarification, when you made that Single line statement.

I consider that rule is valid for number of posts one posts on these threads. Quality is inversely proportional to the quantity.

The more number of posts you do, the quality goes down.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51852 May 7, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove it.
Every town has local regulations - some towns are subdivisions of the state and given that power.

Speed on a local road. That will be the proof.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51853 May 7, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Even if it is oral or implied there are still elements that have to be there to make the provisions of the contract enforceable.
We are talking about social contracts, not lawyer tools. Expand your mind a little, understand a little about political theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract

In political philosophy the social contract or political contractis a theory or model, originating during the Age of Enlightenment, that typically addresses the questions of the origin of society and the legitimacy of the authority of the state over the individual.[1] Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority of the ruler or magistrate (or to the decision of a majority), in exchange for protection of their remaining rights. The question of the relation between natural and legal rights, therefore, is often an aspect of social contract theory.

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