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HughBe

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Apr 30, 2013
 
former res wrote:
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Speaking of the Blue Mountains, we brought some Blue
Mountain coffee home with us when we visited your
island nation several years ago.
The coffee was very tasty, dark and strong - much the way I
imagine you to be.
:))
Former---Speaking of the Blue Mountains, we brought some Blue
Mountain coffee home with us when we visited your
island nation several years ago.

HughBe--- No doubt it is a lovely place, in your mind.

Former--The coffee was very TASTY, dark and strong - much the way I
imagine you to be.

HughBe--- While I appreciate your good intentions I am a bit concerned about your use of TASTY as applied to me, by you a man.

No objections to your use of dark and strong. However I would have said dark as midnight and strong like a lion.

In essence you were correct even about the TASTY part. To the ladies I say taste and see how wonderfully pleasurable and satisfying I am.
HughBe

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Apr 30, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
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nope
If you want to join our big boy conversation, suggest a view
pointless psuedo-socratic questions will be ignored
Frijoles---nope

HughBe--- Why nope? Are you illequippped to provide answers?

Frijoles---If you want to join our big boy conversation, suggest a view

HughBe--- I don't want to join BIG BOYS

AGAIN---

1.What is RELIGION a subculture of, Frijoles? YOU spoke of it so explain it, Frijoles.

2.Is MURDER a standard of bygone days?

3.Define religious EVIDENCE, Frijoles.

4.Share the INTERNAL logic that you speak of below.

Frijoles---The problem is when they apply their standards to your world, and vice versa. That is what you are getting at. You dont buy their definition, and they shouldnt assume that you should. But among themselves, they have an internal logic.

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Apr 30, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles---nope
HughBe--- Why nope? Are you illequippped to provide answers?
Frijoles---If you want to join our big boy conversation, suggest a view
HughBe--- I don't want to join BIG BOYS
AGAIN---
1.What is RELIGION a subculture of, Frijoles? YOU spoke of it so explain it, Frijoles.
2.Is MURDER a standard of bygone days?
3.Define religious EVIDENCE, Frijoles.
4.Share the INTERNAL logic that you speak of below.
Frijoles---The problem is when they apply their standards to your world, and vice versa. That is what you are getting at. You dont buy their definition, and they shouldnt assume that you should. But among themselves, they have an internal logic.
apparently you dont want to join the big boys

have a nice day
HughBe

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Apr 30, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
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apparently you dont want to join the big boys
have a nice day
I have TWO fundamental problems with your offer--

1. JOINING is a problem as I shy away from joining, in the main.

2. It is complicate because YOU are BOYS.

3. Joining girls are a part of my policy but NOT boys.
former res

Cheshire, CT

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Apr 30, 2013
 
JOEL wrote:
FORMER RES:
Were you in ecstasy the last tijme dear Hugh sodomized you with his 14" bamboo?
I guess you need a new boy/man every couple of days to fu-ck you, right?
LOL.
Spoken just like a gang rapist.

Is that your new national sport?

How many Indians can you fit on top of a train?
former res

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Apr 30, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
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Why do you make this complicated? Religious zealot tells you he knows God exists because he feels it.
Evidence - feeling
Assertion - God exists
You evaluate it according to your standards
weak evidence due to subjectivity therefore low credibility
conclusion - evidence doesnt support assertion
dismissed
From the point of view of the claimant
feelings = credible evidence, subjectivity ok
conclusion - evidence supports assertion
Different standards - in the modern world your evaluation is the generally accepted standard
I think it's interesting that you think religion (and belief therein) is anything BUT complicated.(Though I don't really believe that's what you think.)

You said my evidence on the gun issue was weak. I simply asked whether you consider own evidence to be weak (or strong). Obviously you'd be using your own standards, not mine.

Equally obvious is the subjective nature of all of this.

Clearly you find your evidence strong enough to make you a believer - you binary switch of belief is in the "on" position.

I simply asked whether you find your evidence to be strong.

Do you not concur that the strength or weight of evidence (regardless of who is evaluating it) can be judged on continuum?
JOEL

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Apr 30, 2013
 
former res wrote:
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Spoken just like a gang rapist.

Is that your new national sport?

How many Indians can you fit on top of a train?
How much gray matter can be accommodated in your tiny brain, homo?

How many millions of 12 year old girls have become pregnant in your state this year?

(smiles)
former res

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Apr 30, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
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I understand what you are getting at, and I agree that ATF (whether he is aware of this or not) has an opinion, he just doesnt feel like sharing it for dissection.
It goes without saying - though I just today did say it - that ATF has the right to not engage in this discussion.
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However, the question "Does God exist" is too simplistic to me.
Hey - I thought I was the one making it too "complicated!"
Frijoles wrote:
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Too many assumptions regarding the definition of God (i.e. I dont believe God is a noun, I see the concept more like a verb). Furthermore, before one asks "Does God Exist" I think one has to first look at the question "DO I exist?".
And consider the boundary of that definition as well.
Eat me.

:))
HughBe

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Apr 30, 2013
 
former res wrote:
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I think it's interesting that you think religion (and belief therein) is anything BUT complicated.(Though I don't really believe that's what you think.)
You said my evidence on the gun issue was weak. I simply asked whether you consider own evidence to be weak (or strong). Obviously you'd be using your own standards, not mine.
Equally obvious is the subjective nature of all of this.
Clearly you find your evidence strong enough to make you a believer - you binary switch of belief is in the "on" position.
I simply asked whether you find your evidence to be strong.
Do you not concur that the strength or weight of evidence (regardless of who is evaluating it) can be judged on continuum?
Former---I simply asked whether you find your evidence to be strong.

HughBe--- I have found that Frijoles encounters major challenges when it comes time for him to explain his words, thoughts or beliefs.
HughBe

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Apr 30, 2013
 
former res wrote:
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It goes without saying - though I just today did say it - that ATF has the right to not engage in this discussion.
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Hey - I thought I was the one making it too "complicated!"
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Eat me.
:))
Be careful as he will be over in a jiffy.
JOEL

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Apr 30, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe - I have found that Frijoles encounters major challenges when it comes time for him to explain his words, thoughts or beliefs.
LMAO.

In other words you're hinting that Frijoles is dumb or unintelligent.

Mmmmmmm, very true.
JOEL

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Apr 30, 2013
 
former res wrote:
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Clearly you find your evidence strong enough to make you a believer
Evidence? LOL.

You mean he believes due to ancestral influences.

This is the sad case with all believers - they believe because their ancestors believed. Nothing more.
JOEL

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Apr 30, 2013
 
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Eat me.
Go find a cute boy to "eat", Mon.
JOEL

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Apr 30, 2013
 
Yawn, yawn, yawn.
HughBe

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Apr 30, 2013
 
JOEL wrote:
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LMAO.
In other words you're hinting that Frijoles is dumb or unintelligent.
Mmmmmmm, very true.
Frijoles raised the points below, I simply asked the questions. Now tell me why his response is nope and avoidance. Former is having the same problem with him.

1.What is RELIGION a subculture of, Frijoles? YOU spoke of it so explain it, Frijoles.

2.Is MURDER a standard of bygone days?

3.Define religious EVIDENCE, Frijoles.

4.Share the INTERNAL logic that you speak of below.

Frijoles---The problem is when they apply their standards to your world, and vice versa. That is what you are getting at. You dont buy their definition, and they shouldnt assume that you should. But among themselves, they have an internal logic.
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Apr 30, 2013
 
JOEL wrote:
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How much gray matter can be accommodated in your tiny brain, homo?
How many millions of 12 year old girls have become pregnant in your state this year?
(smiles)
BTW, did I mention that I speak Indian? Though I can only say two phrases:

"Thank you. Come again."

"Excuse me, please."
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HughBe wrote:
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....To the ladies I say taste and see how wonderfully pleasurable and satisfying I am.
How strong is your evidence of this?

Or is it just a feeling you have?
JOEL

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HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles raised the points below, I simply asked the questions. Now tell me why his response is nope and avoidance. Former is having the same problem with him.

1.What is RELIGION a subculture of, Frijoles? YOU spoke of it so explain it, Frijoles.

2.Is MURDER a standard of bygone days?

3.Define religious EVIDENCE, Frijoles.

4.Share the INTERNAL logic that you speak of below.

Frijoles---The problem is when they apply their standards to your world, and vice versa. That is what you are getting at. You dont buy their definition, and they shouldnt assume that you should. But among themselves, they have an internal logic.
Why bother Frijoles with such issues when it's evident that he's a dogmatist and knows nothing about the reality via direct experiences.

When a man (Frijoles) says, as he once said to me many years ago, that the soul is the life-force or that the highest reality is the life-force take it for granted that he's an ignorant person and is simply quoting ignorant scripture.

Even those ignorant prophets who he reveres equated the highest reality with the life force and so they would not know that the life force is simply an aspect of the vital consciousness-force and manifests in a pentuple movement as it penetrates matter and besides those violent and shallow prophets were ignorant of the numerous supra-vital planes and had little knowledge of the infra-vital planes and of the true vital plane as well - their minor experiences extended to exclusively the lower vital planes of the adverse kind. LOL.

The words "internal logic" are invariably used by those who fail to explain their beliefs.

They escape being taken to task with this phrase "internal logic" which means actually means nothing - even an idiot or an insane man can say that his method has an "internal logic" knowable only to him or to people like him. LMAO.

See, instinct is exceeded by reason, reason is exceeded by intuition.

When an intuition is true it will, on close scrutiny, always be supported by instinct and reason from below with there being no contradictions.
JOEL

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Apr 30, 2013
 
CHINA CAPTURES INDIAN TERRITORY:

Meanwhile, Chinese troops have infiltrated tens of km into Indian territory and have encamped there with no intention as of now of budging and are waving banners in English that read, "You are in Chinese territory." The government of India is under severe pressure from the Indian public to take military action.

I remember, two things in this context:

1) In the late 1960s, the Mother, Sri Aurobindo's Jewish spiritual collaborator, had, in a vision, seen Chinese troops marching into the heart of Southern India several thousands of kms away from the Indo-China border, and

2) Many years ago, my ex-master had told someone that in the future China would conquer India.

Well, let's see what happens....
JOEL

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Apr 30, 2013
 
Interestingly, both the satanists and the spiritualist aim at a one world order sans geo-political borders, sans religions, sans politics, sans money, sans the old way of living. Barfani Baba, a 220 year old plus yogi living in the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh, had, in a booklet published many years ago, stated that by 2015 the world would experience great difficulties leading to destruction with just a handful of people surviving the mega-holocaust. Bose is busy accumulating ex-military personnel to help out during the destructive phase - world war 3. I am saying nothing for known reasons and am on the sidelines.

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