Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

United States

#48020 Jan 28, 2013
Eric wrote:
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And, he has taken their seeds--the soy beans are the seeds. So they can't reproduce. He has committed plant abortion!
Plus, in most areas in the world, soy production is overtaking the many other cereal types - so by eating tofu, one is contributing to the demise of biodiversity. Another magnitude of BIOCIDE all together.

He must have horrible karma.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#48022 Jan 28, 2013
Oh dear, they are coming out of the baseboards now.

Since: Aug 11

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#48023 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Maybe someday someone can even explain what he is arguing to you about.
Ease up. You don't want to give the poor guy an aneurysm. He's obviously struggling to cope with the indisputable fact that Eric presented to him.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#48024 Jan 28, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Ease up. You don't want to give the poor guy an aneurysm. He's obviously struggling to cope with the indisputable fact that Eric presented to him.
Yep, if we scare everyone away , we are left with ourselves. That could be gruesome.

Check out the other thread sometime. There are 2 new fundies - one that just trailed me to here, the other PaulWV
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48025 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Now now, play fair....
No need to act like a 3 year old...
Greetings my battyboy friend your folly is forgiven. Eric LIES and you know it and he knows it. I really am not into the LYING thing and think very little of it.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48026 Jan 28, 2013
Eric wrote:
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I will use the words I choose. I like the word segregated and segregation. I care not what you call it. When there are two similar organizations in a location, one with higher socioeconomic members and one lower socioeconomic members, that is segregation. When applied to religious institutions (e.g., churches), people who believe that Jesus is the Messiah and a member of the Triune tend to have such segregated institutions. Either de facto or de jure. To me, it is an anomaly that religious institutions would so be governed.
Bunch of effete snobs!(sorry Spiro)
Dear Eric my RUMP specialist friend, why not speak about neutral or pleasant things?

Why not avoid DESCENDING into the gutters with your LIES?

Understand this, the things that you say are UNTRUE and if you lack understanding ask for help.

Your dear friend, Hugh.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#48027 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Yep, if we scare everyone away , we are left with ourselves. That could be gruesome.
Check out the other thread sometime. There are 2 new fundies - one that just trailed me to here, the other PaulWV
We'll see. On Politix, I'm currently busy schooling some creationists on the finer points of evolution and why it shouldn't be taught in Science classes.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#48029 Jan 28, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Greetings my battyboy friend your folly is forgiven. Eric LIES and you know it and he knows it. I really am not into the LYING thing and think very little of it.
Why did you have to call him a jacka**? That reflected poorly upon you.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48030 Jan 28, 2013
former res wrote:
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Dearest Huggybear
Under the heading of "What would Jesus do?"...
I am quite sure he would not approve of your resorting to such sharp and cutting invective to make your point, whatever that might be.
He was a kind and understanding man who was given to "turning the other cheek."
And of course there is de facto segregation of houses of worship (and schools and other institutions) simply by virture of geography/where they are located.
Wouldn't you agree with that, sweety?
Former---Dearest Huggybear

HughBe--- Yes dear, I'm here.

Former--Under the heading of "What would Jesus do?"...

HughBe--- Interesting heading

Former--I am quite sure he would not approve of your resorting to such sharp and cutting invective to make your point, whatever that might be.

HughBe--- How can you be sure given that you don't know Him?

Former--He was a kind and understanding man who was given to "turning the other cheek."

HughBe--- I too am KIND and understanding and I do turn the other cheek BUT not always.

Former---And of course there is de facto segregation of houses of worship (and schools and other institutions) simply by virture of geography/where they are located.

HughBe--- At least you have demonstrated some level of INTELLIGENCE. However, your SEGREGATION ejaculation has taken away from the merit of your words as it shows that you don't have a full grasp of your own words.

Former--Wouldn't you agree with that, sweety?

HughBE--- Only in part, dearest.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48036 Jan 28, 2013
A word to ALL battyboys i.e. Eric, Frijoles, Former etc. my position on your sexual practice is stated below.

1. If gay sex makes you happy/gay go for it providing it is legal. I don't support illegal actions.

2. If you believe that the behaviour is consistent with the will of your god, go for it.

3. If you believe that there is no life hereafter, go for it.

4. Your gay sex does not make you less of a person that the straight person who indulges in fornication or adultery.

5. Having said all of the above, understand that same sex intercourse is UNACCEPTABLE to the God of Abraham. So, do NOT deceive yourself or be deceived by others who allow the Satan within them to deceive you.

6. I am serious about ALL that I have written.

7. God loves you just as much as anyone else. He certainly DISAGREES with your behaviour BUT He does not hate you and neither do I. I actually like you battyboys BUT not your LYING ways.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48037 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Why did you have to call him a jacka**? That reflected poorly upon you.
And no doubt in your world his LYING reflects well on him.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#48049 Jan 28, 2013
HughBe wrote:
A word to ALL battyboys i.e. Eric, Frijoles, Former etc. my position on your sexual practice is stated below.
1. If gay sex makes you happy/gay go for it providing it is legal. I don't support illegal actions.
2. If you believe that the behaviour is consistent with the will of your god, go for it.
3. If you believe that there is no life hereafter, go for it.
4. Your gay sex does not make you less of a person that the straight person who indulges in fornication or adultery.
5. Having said all of the above, understand that same sex intercourse is UNACCEPTABLE to the God of Abraham. So, do NOT deceive yourself or be deceived by others who allow the Satan within them to deceive you.
6. I am serious about ALL that I have written.
7. God loves you just as much as anyone else. He certainly DISAGREES with your behaviour BUT He does not hate you and neither do I. I actually like you battyboys BUT not your LYING ways.
The lady doth protest too much, me thinks

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#48050 Jan 28, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Wait, I've figured it out. Wrong time of the month for our protesting lady!
On an unrelated topic, do you know any of these people?

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/ideas-innovatio...

It was a sunny morning in May, and I was in a car with a linguist and a tax preparer trolling the suburbs of Chicago for native speakers of Aramaic, the 3,000-year-old language of Jesus.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48051 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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The lady doth protest too much, me thinks
It is true that I have feminine extremities, however I am a MAN and not a lady.

Later dear.
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#48052 Jan 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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On an unrelated topic, do you know any of these people?
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/ideas-innovatio...
It was a sunny morning in May, and I was in a car with a linguist and a tax preparer trolling the suburbs of Chicago for native speakers of Aramaic, the 3,000-year-old language of Jesus.
No, but it was an unusual group.

On the topic of the article, it hits on the point that I was trying to make with SamBee and Bruce a number of times. Aramaic, not Hebrew, was the vernacular at the time of Jesus and would have been the language he spoke. His name would have been Eashoa, not Yeshua. The idea that the Messianics have been throwing around to insert Hebrew names and words into the New Testament willy nilly is ridiculous. The quotations would never have been in Hebrew. As much as I dislike Mel Gibson, he had it right in his movie when he had the actors speak Aramaic.
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#48053 Jan 28, 2013
HughBe wrote:
A word to ALL battyboys i.e. Eric, Frijoles, Former etc. my position on your sexual practice is stated below.
1. If gay sex makes you happy/gay go for it providing it is legal. I don't support illegal actions.
2. If you believe that the behaviour is consistent with the will of your god, go for it.
3. If you believe that there is no life hereafter, go for it.
4. Your gay sex does not make you less of a person that the straight person who indulges in fornication or adultery.
5. Having said all of the above, understand that same sex intercourse is UNACCEPTABLE to the God of Abraham. So, do NOT deceive yourself or be deceived by others who allow the Satan within them to deceive you.
6. I am serious about ALL that I have written.
7. God loves you just as much as anyone else. He certainly DISAGREES with your behaviour BUT He does not hate you and neither do I. I actually like you battyboys BUT not your LYING ways.
HughBe wrote:
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Dear Eric my RUMP specialist friend, why not speak about neutral or pleasant things?
Why not avoid DESCENDING into the gutters with your LIES?
Understand this, the things that you say are UNTRUE and if you lack understanding ask for help.
Your dear friend, Hugh.
Wow, emotions running rampant or what? Definitely the wrong time of the month. Get your hormones in order. Maybe you need estrogen to stave off the effects of menopause.
jim

United States

#48054 Jan 28, 2013
IamJoseph wrote:
Israel is being attacked from every possible angle - and this is an evil scenario, embellished with a false saving grace. There should be one small place on the planet where jews can be free to pursue their own beliefs, and this must be respected by insecure christians and muslims, who have a problem respecting Jews as Jews, and Israel as Israel.
Pushing Jews into the sea, in the name of the NT or Quran, is the same as any other form of genicide. Have the jews not paid a great price to remain Jews? The truth is, America was founded by Jews [Columbus and all his mapsters were Jews], as a refuge for many - but also to save Christianity - from Europe. This is what Jews escaped from:
'BETTER TO DESTROY THEIR BODIES AND SAVE THEIR SOULS'- Isabela of Spain.
Thanks but no thanks. Please stop saving Jews.
what you have said is very true, you should post more often, the jewish people differ from people because choose you in order to lead all people to him, israel is blessed as a nation and as a people, how is one to know there is a living god, look at the jews, blessed, money, inventions, their family culture and the word of god and there respect an love for their lord, people hate because of envey, israel is a son to god and jerusalem is the apple of gods eye, Jesus is there temple and their lord, their true god in the flesh, an most christians like the jews today are looking for a third temple, he desires mercery not blood sacrafise, rest assured I know he loves israel with all his heart, no matter how bleak it looks for israel, he will watch over them like a mother hen protects her little chicks.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#48055 Jan 28, 2013
Eric wrote:
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No, but it was an unusual group.
On the topic of the article, it hits on the point that I was trying to make with SamBee and Bruce a number of times. Aramaic, not Hebrew, was the vernacular at the time of Jesus and would have been the language he spoke. His name would have been Eashoa, not Yeshua. The idea that the Messianics have been throwing around to insert Hebrew names and words into the New Testament willy nilly is ridiculous. The quotations would never have been in Hebrew. As much as I dislike Mel Gibson, he had it right in his movie when he had the actors speak Aramaic.
If you have additional interest you should check out the book by the author of that article. I read it last year. Its the story of his father - an Aramaic speaking Kurdish Jew. Its a fascinating story about Kurds and their exodus to Israel - how they were the hillbillys of the immigrants.

As per Aramaic - I touched upon that in my comment to PaulWV (or was it preacher?) when I asked him if he knew what language Daniel was in. No reply.
former res

Broomall, PA

#48063 Jan 28, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text> Former--I am quite sure he would not approve of your resorting to such sharp and cutting invective to make your point, whatever that might be.
HughBe--- How can you be sure given that you don't know Him?
Of course I don't know him. He does not exist.

But I assume that he does for you.

And we all know of the teachings; the Beatitudes; the Golden Rule.

And it seems your actions, your words, do not follow in the proper spirit.

Though I'm sure you can rationalize this with your circuitous meanderings.
HughBe wrote:
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Former--He was a kind and understanding man who was given to "turning the other cheek."
HughBe--- I too am KIND and understanding and I do turn the other cheek BUT not always.
It is when you are truly challenged (and even outraged) that the appropriate response matters.

Anyone can be Christ-like in fair weather.
HughBe wrote:
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Former---And of course there is de facto segregation of houses of worship (and schools and other institutions) simply by virture of geography/where they are located.
HughBe--- At least you have demonstrated some level of INTELLIGENCE. However, your SEGREGATION ejaculation has taken away from the merit of your words as it shows that you don't have a full grasp of your own words.
Wealthy people live with wealthy people and poor people live with poor people.

Your faux indignation cannot undo this simple truth.

You have much to learn my child.

Stay the course.
idgaf

Bedford, MA

#48064 Jan 28, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Veggies are produce of trees and not the tree or plant itself. Like for example, trimming hair or clipping nails doesn't hurt nor does it kill the human being and besides the lost hair or nails quickly regrow. Similarly, garden produce is taken from the plant without killing the plant and in time fresh produce replaces the picked ones on the same plant. Grains are harvested only after the grass/plant withers at the end of its short life-cycle.
Wrong. Not all plants bare fruit and re-bare fruit. 1-timers for a lot of them.

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