No charges yet in deadly shooting

Full story: Silver City Sun-News

Deputy District Attorney George Zsoka said Tuesday that any charges that would be filed relating to the March 23 shooting death of Roland A. Salvatore would still be another two weeks away.
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The article states: The range of fire, from where Salvatori [sic] was and the "assailant" who fired the weapon, "is best categorized as distant/indeterminate,"
If the "indeterminate" assailant fired the gun at some distance from Roland Salvatore, how could the cops even begin to think it was self defense on the assailant's part? Was Roland Armed? I just don't understand the holdup in IDing suspects. Do we need to bring in the cops from Las Cruces again to get this solved?
Brian

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The report doesn't mention anything about self defense and doesn't mention a hold-up in IDing suspects.

I'd rather the job was done right rather than done quick.
haHAAA

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Let's all mosey over to Silver City and shoot us a couple of people, the DA don't care, and the cops are so inept they make the Keystone Cops look CSI Miami professional.
No Way Jose

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Why not just say absolutely nothing and surprise us with an arrest. Everyone knows no arrests will take place until a more competent authority takes over.....
Edi

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Hand the case over to NMSP!
That Dancing Guy

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Roland was my friend, a good man, and a great contributor to music and the arts. I'm certainly anxious for his demise to be resolved, but not at the expense of completeness or truth. There remain facts about this case that are not yet known (or at least not yet disclosed), too many to form judgements about concerning either suspects or police investigators. I'm grateful to know its investigation is not just getting swept under the carpet however, and that the SC Sun is pursuing updates about it. I also appreciate this report's substantiation of the weapon involved, further confirming the strangeness of it all. Look, this is a smooth bore, either flintlock or percussion cap, ramrod loaded, powder, patch, ball, firearm. Assuming it's been loaded properly and actually will fire (itself somewhat dubious, particularly if it's a flintlock), actually hitting a target the size of somebody’s neck, who's presumably moving, and at some “indeterminate” distance, takes more luck than skill, though make no mistake about it, plenty of skill would be needed. This firearm is about as repeatable as a BB gun but takes at least 10 times longer to load. Assuming the person you're shooting at is an attacker against whom your defending yourself, your first shot missed, which is probable, you'd be left to reload again before said attacker reaches you, now further agitated by having just been shot at. Given this firearm I'm having a hard time buying a self-defense story short of Daniel Boone himself being the shooter. But I'm having an even harder time buying an ambush story, and harder time still buying that this was a successful murder out of rage or impulse. I really doubt Roland was deliberately targeted at his neck and actually hit there. More likely at least some percentage of what took place was either accidental, circumstantial, or just a total fluke, which is probably why its investigation is going as it is. What we need are the facts. We lost a good man. I’d like to know why.

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

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Actually, modern black powder firearms of this type are VERY accurate. They are used for hunting on a regular basis and bag as many trophies as a modern smokeless powder firearm. Many of them mount scopes and can be AS accurate as a smokeless powder gun. Assuming the first shot missed is totally unrealistic. Someone who uses a gun of this type must be assumed to be competent with it. They KNOW they will only get one shot and then they'll have to run. So they are going to be VERY careful about taking that one shot. And they don't necessarily use a round ball cartridge. There are also standard "bullet-style" cartridges that can be used with increased accuracy and efficiency. Don't think this gun has to look like a Daniel Boone rifle. It DOESN'T. And it's construction and accurace are far superior to anything used in the 18th century.

See one:
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info....

The biggest benefit of using a black powder rifle for illegal use is you don't need to go to a gun store to buy one. You can order them through the mail or online, and as long as you are over 18 you can take delivery on it. I wish people would inform themselves before acting like some kind of authority on things >:-(
patricia hollister

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Roland's death was not self defense. I met Karther, the young man who shot my son, Roland . Karther said he was glad that he's an American and has the right to defend himself with a gun. He said this to me and he said "look at me my heart is pounding, i'm shaking all over"... So I guess if you're the type of person who feels so shaky upon meeting a grieving mother and grandmother, you're likely to shoot an unarmed man out of unreasonable fear. My son was murdered. Roland did not deserve what was done to him.
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Why are we going on 3 months without charges? A man was shot to death. Why is it victims have no rights? Our legal system protects criminals. Does the DA's procrastination change the facts? George, why do you want this job?
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That Dancing Guy wrote:
Roland was my friend, a good man, and a great contributor to music and the arts. I'm certainly anxious for his demise to be resolved, but not at the expense of completeness or truth. There remain facts about this case that are not yet known (or at least not yet disclosed), too many to form judgements about concerning either suspects or police investigators. I'm grateful to know its investigation is not just getting swept under the carpet however, and that the SC Sun is pursuing updates about it. I also appreciate this report's substantiation of the weapon involved, further confirming the strangeness of it all. Look, this is a smooth bore, either flintlock or percussion cap, ramrod loaded, powder, patch, ball, firearm. Assuming it's been loaded properly and actually will fire (itself somewhat dubious, particularly if it's a flintlock), actually hitting a target the size of somebody’s neck, who's presumably moving, and at some “indeterminate” distance, takes more luck than skill, though make no mistake about it, plenty of skill would be needed. This firearm is about as repeatable as a BB gun but takes at least 10 times longer to load. Assuming the person you're shooting at is an attacker against whom your defending yourself, your first shot missed, which is probable, you'd be left to reload again before said attacker reaches you, now further agitated by having just been shot at. Given this firearm I'm having a hard time buying a self-defense story short of Daniel Boone himself being the shooter. But I'm having an even harder time buying an ambush story, and harder time still buying that this was a successful murder out of rage or impulse. I really doubt Roland was deliberately targeted at his neck and actually hit there. More likely at least some percentage of what took place was either accidental, circumstantial, or just a total fluke, which is probably why its investigation is going as it is. What we need are the facts. We lost a good man. I’d like to know why.
Thank you. Now two yrs later, the shooter and the woman on the scene both walked free because they told lies at the ONE interview that night. We gave them info . Det. Bencuomo investigated and told me "Your son was a good man and didn't deserve what happened to him" That seems to be the only justice that will happen. I hate Sasha and Karthar.
Silver

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Apr 17, 2014
 
I can't let this go. I understand that Roland was a very popular man. I understand that many thought of him as gentle and good. This was not my experience. Look, I am sympathetic with victims of violent crime and with families of victims of violent crime. But in my interactions with Roland over ten years, I found him to be what I call a jerk. He was intolerant of anyone who did not act submissive to him. That comes from a place. That comes from a socialization during formative years that he could look upon someone else as less than him. If you behaved correctly around him, he would treat you well. But if you dared to disagree with anything that he announced he would treat you badly. Him good; not him, bad. One of the positives on this thread who knew him once complained to me of how badly Roland had treated him. The friend looked at me for some solidarity, and all I could say is what do you expect. Obviously, this friend came to terms with Roland's need for dominance. Another friend of his bragged about how Roland beat up a person for even thinking differently than him. His "spiritual" psychosis had gotten to such a place that he'd imagined for himself some sort of guru status. This was all compounded by the fact that he was a constant stoner and dealer (no doubt this fact contributed to his popularity.) When he was under the influence he might appear gentle and nice, but when he was off, he became very violent. I accept the explanation that the accused was afraid for his life when Roland came at him. I don't care about the borrowed vehicle incident. If there was culpability there, then that could have been dealt with. But Roland - in that manner - coming at you - motivated only to throw fists - even as some say, mocking the gun, as if it were wimpy of someone to not allow this abusive psychotic man to engage you with good old-fashioned knock out. I appreciate Karthar and I hope that his misfortune of ever meeting someone like Roland doesn't affect his future livity.

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These sorts of misfits are what is bred in Sliver City, the pseudo-hip paradise and bubble of unreality.

The whole town is oozing with lowlife who because of long hair or other alternative appearance fits right into the sleazy local ambience, beneath its façade of "sustainability" and the pious charitable pretenses of the local non-profits who are all corrupt to the core.

Let this be yet another example of a rotten town in a rotten county. And nobody can stand up against it.

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