Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17281 Jan 13, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Souter shifted hard to the left. That's common knowledge.
If this isn't a textbook leftist quote, I don't know what is:
In 1992's Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Souter wrote that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned because it would be "a surrender to political pressure... So to overrule under fire in the absence of the most compelling reason to re-examine a watershed decision would subvert the Court's legitimacy beyond any serious question."[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Souter#Pla...
You don't like his opinions. But you said he, and the other justices weren't honest. What weren't they honest about?

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#17282 Jan 13, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't like his opinions. But you said he, and the other justices weren't honest. What weren't they honest about?
Do you honestly think be would have been nominated if it had been know he'd be a pro-abortion justice?
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17283 Jan 13, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Do you honestly think be would have been nominated if it had been know he'd be a pro-abortion justice?
That is a separate question, although all presidents claim that they don't have litmus tests for nominees.

Your assertion, however, is that the justices lied in order to get the appointment. What did they lie about, when did they do it and who did they lie to?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17284 Jan 13, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>you got that right, can you imagine if the SCOTUS was packed with justices like Dianne Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Bill Clinton & others that represent the New Left this country would be in trouble and so would the Bill of Rights.
The Bill of Rights would just about be eliminated then.

The one thing our founders screwed up was lifelong SC nominations. They should be voted on like any other politician and have four year terms. Yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think if the founders could look back and see what and how some of these decisions came down, they would go back in time if they could and redo the whole SC thing and make the Constitution less ambiguous. Maybe even color pictures for the libs.

Imagine what kind of country we would be living in today if we all lived by the words of the Constitution and the intent of our founders.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17285 Jan 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bill of Rights would just about be eliminated then.
The one thing our founders screwed up was lifelong SC nominations. They should be voted on like any other politician and have four year terms. Yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think if the founders could look back and see what and how some of these decisions came down, they would go back in time if they could and redo the whole SC thing and make the Constitution less ambiguous. Maybe even color pictures for the libs.
Imagine what kind of country we would be living in today if we all lived by the words of the Constitution and the intent of our founders.
Except for the parts you don't like, right?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17286 Jan 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bill of Rights would just about be eliminated then.
The one thing our founders screwed up was lifelong SC nominations. They should be voted on like any other politician and have four year terms. Yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think if the founders could look back and see what and how some of these decisions came down, they would go back in time if they could and redo the whole SC thing and make the Constitution less ambiguous. Maybe even color pictures for the libs.
Imagine what kind of country we would be living in today if we all lived by the words of the Constitution and the intent of our founders.
you got that right, I dont consider those bigots Democrat or Liberal but Stalinist who align themselves with the goal to achieve Stalinism which is based on Totalitarianism.

Stalinism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism

Totalitarianism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#17288 Jan 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bill of Rights would just about be eliminated then.
The one thing our founders screwed up was lifelong SC nominations. They should be voted on like any other politician and have four year terms. Yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I think if the founders could look back and see what and how some of these decisions came down, they would go back in time if they could and redo the whole SC thing and make the Constitution less ambiguous. Maybe even color pictures for the libs.
Imagine what kind of country we would be living in today if we all lived by the words of the Constitution and the intent of our founders.
Yeah, they had no idea whatsoever what a "lifetime" appointment would mean.

Sure.

woof
LorenEberly

Marysville, OH

#17290 Jan 13, 2013
Four Generations of Schmids Own and Operate Smith Dairy Products:

Four generations of Schmids dictate price they pay farmers for milk, dictate wages they pay employees, and dictate amount of dividends (money) owners/stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly in the wholesale and retail price of Smith dairy products.

This is needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this unaffordable economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream; into Schmid owners/stockholders portfolios.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Smith Dairy Products and every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To pay for the more stock dividends business owners/stockholders market quarterly in the cost of product and service and fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17291 Jan 13, 2013
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text> After they passed Citizen's United's little corporate political scheme and were caught eating dinner with the Koch brothers, the conservative Christian rightwing members of our Supreme Court have proven that they will stoop to any level for the love of money. Get it right, Pappy.
My statement had NOTHING wrong to "get right',,,putz
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17292 Jan 13, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, they had no idea whatsoever what a "lifetime" appointment would mean.
Sure.
woof
Hi Duke. My history lessons told that the reason they were given life time appointments instead of being elected was put them above politics. BUT the congressional approval process is full of politics itself.
They had a good idea, it just doesn't work as the founders thought it would. It's a bit of a shame. woof
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17293 Jan 13, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
<quoted text>
The judiciary at the federal level should not be subject to electoral politics. It's bad enough at the state level where people are elected because they have Irish names.
I would limit federal judges to no more than 15 years at one level, and possibly allow them to be nominated by state governors instead of the President, with the exception of the Supreme Court.
Interesting post. I was thinking of 12 & done yrs but what the heck.
But the idea of governors nominating fed judges bears thought. Especially with the 9 districts. I can see that working out with the right process.
The problem is that it would take a constitutional amendment & I'm somewhat pessimistic about that happening.
But still an idea worth thought.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17295 Jan 14, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, we all know the left is loaded with hypocrites. Gore's organization refused to sell his worthless network to a fellow American (Glenn Beck) and instead, sold it to Al Jazeera. Not only are they supported with oil money, but his company made sure to sell it before the new DumBama tax increases. You know, Gore didn't want to pay his "fair share" and nobody on the left criticized it.
Speaking of DumBama, did you know he recently put his okie-dokie to extend the surveillance act? And then we have Gitmo plus the execution style murder of Bin Laden. Imagine the outrage on the left if Bush managed to get Bin Laden first, and then hid all evidence of his execution from the public saying he buried him at sea. While on that subject, DumBama exercised his bragging rights which led to the death of many members of Seal Team 6 when the terrorists shot down their helicopter in revenge. Barely made the MSM. And these losers reelected the guy.
I could go on and on, but the point is that it's not the action taken by a President that psses off the left, it's who takes the action. It doesn't matter if we have record deficits or the fact DumBama spent more money in three years than Bush did in eight, it's all fine as long as it's a Democrat doing it.
Hypocrites, every last one of them.
I'm pretty sure the CFR told mr. Gore what he can do with his satellite network. Gore is a member you know. So is rupert murdock, and every other media mogul.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17296 Jan 14, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Interestingly, a majority of Justices on the SCOTUS were appointed by republican presidents.
what, did you just figure that out? You don't think republicans are bought and sold by big insurance companies, just like the dems who wrote obama care?
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17297 Jan 14, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a separate question, although all presidents claim that they don't have litmus tests for nominees.
Your assertion, however, is that the justices lied in order to get the appointment. What did they lie about, when did they do it and who did they lie to?
that's not something they were dishonest about? I think you like to play word gaames and you're only winning in your own mind.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#17298 Jan 14, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Duke. My history lessons told that the reason they were given life time appointments instead of being elected was put them above politics. BUT the congressional approval process is full of politics itself.
They had a good idea, it just doesn't work as the founders thought it would. It's a bit of a shame. woof
To suggest that they didn't realize that the appointment process itself would be enmeshed with and influenced by politics seems to me to not acknowledge their foresight, in general. Its foolish to think they didn't know that, specifically.

What they surely knew was that once someone was vetted and approved, they could not be removed other than through death, a legal finding of incompetency, or voluntary retirement.

woof
Old Guy

Brookville, OH

#17299 Jan 14, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
What were they untruthful about?
All recent nominees have pledged that they uphold the idea of "Stare Decisis", respect for precedent. However, it is obvious that the conservative SCOTUS Judges would like nothing better than to overturn Roe vs. Wade, and would do it in a second if they had the numbers. Likewise, the Citizens United decision overturned long-standing precedent, even though John Roberts repeatedly supported "Stare Decisis" during his confirmation hearings.
Old Guy

Brookville, OH

#17300 Jan 14, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Souter shifted hard to the left. That's common knowledge.
If this isn't a textbook leftist quote, I don't know what is:
In 1992's Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Souter wrote that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned because it would be "a surrender to political pressure... So to overrule under fire in the absence of the most compelling reason to re-examine a watershed decision would subvert the Court's legitimacy beyond any serious question."[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Souter#Pla...
Yes, this is a perfect example of respecting "Stare Decisis" ---not being willing to overturn precedent without the most compelling of reasons.
Old Guy

Brookville, OH

#17301 Jan 14, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>
If this isn't a textbook leftist quote, I don't know what is...
Please explain why you think respecting precedent is a leftist position --- that seems to be a conservative approach.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17303 Jan 14, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
<quoted text>
The judiciary at the federal level should not be subject to electoral politics. It's bad enough at the state level where people are elected because they have Irish names.
I would limit federal judges to no more than 15 years at one level, and possibly allow them to be nominated by state governors instead of the President, with the exception of the Supreme Court.
It still doesn't solve the problem of outrageous rulings. Very few people consider the possible nominations when they elect a President. He alone has the say-so on who eventually gets in the SC.

I wonder how good of a job you or I would do at work if there was no way for us to ever lose our employment? Would you put in the same effort, strive for the same quality, have the same attendance record, be so concerned about the success of your company? I don't think so. After all, isn't that what the larger unions were about in the US? Where are they today?

I get the fact that they appoint judges so as not to be swayed by the voters, but many times, it sure seems like they're swayed anyway. In general, I don't think the people in this country have the dignity they did many years ago. Today, we put our own countrymen out of work so we can save a buck. Money is an obsession with many of us regardless of how much we have. People try and succeed in rigging the elections by cheating. Those who contribute nothing to this society of ours could care less if we go broke supporting them and their family. They have no shame paying for their food with a food stamp card and have the other cart behind them full of pet supplies, beer and then ask for a carton of cigarettes they pay cash for. No shame at all.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17304 Jan 14, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
It still doesn't solve the problem of outrageous rulings. Very few people consider the possible nominations when they elect a President. He alone has the say-so on who eventually gets in the SC.
I wonder how good of a job you or I would do at work if there was no way for us to ever lose our employment? Would you put in the same effort, strive for the same quality, have the same attendance record, be so concerned about the success of your company? I don't think so. After all, isn't that what the larger unions were about in the US? Where are they today?
I get the fact that they appoint judges so as not to be swayed by the voters, but many times, it sure seems like they're swayed anyway. In general, I don't think the people in this country have the dignity they did many years ago. Today, we put our own countrymen out of work so we can save a buck. Money is an obsession with many of us regardless of how much we have. People try and succeed in rigging the elections by cheating. Those who contribute nothing to this society of ours could care less if we go broke supporting them and their family. They have no shame paying for their food with a food stamp card and have the other cart behind them full of pet supplies, beer and then ask for a carton of cigarettes they pay cash for. No shame at all.
You are forgetting about Senate confirmation.

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