Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#14153 Nov 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't see how government should be stuck with pensions. Pensions are a thing of the past with most companies. Who has pensions today besides government workers which we are stuck paying for?
Anyway, happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.:-)
Good point. Who has pensions anymore? My Grandmother has one but those days are gone. Thanks "job creators". I know. Maybe we can go back to the days when companies made their own money that they paid their employees with, that could only be spent at company stores. You know. Before hard working American Unions shut their greedy @sses down. Dumb @ssed truck drivers would be working for pennies a day if you had "your way".
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#14154 Nov 23, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
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Good point. Who has pensions anymore? My Grandmother has one but those days are gone. Thanks "job creators". I know. Maybe we can go back to the days when companies made their own money that they paid their employees with, that could only be spent at company stores. You know. Before hard working American Unions shut their greedy @sses down. Dumb @ssed truck drivers would be working for pennies a day if you had "your way".
Not at all. There are not many union places anymore. Truck drivers will always be in demand and as such, will always pay a descent wage. In fact, the US is very short on truck drivers in this economy. We have drivers who have college degrees but can't find work in their fields. If the economy ever starts to move again, those people will scoot over to their chosen career and a stronger economy means more transportation even if they continued to drive.

Supply and demand.
yeah

Plymouth, MI

#14155 Nov 23, 2012
All political sstuff is bullcrap ppl trying to get rich
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#14156 Nov 23, 2012
yeah wrote:
All political sstuff is bullcrap ppl trying to get rich
Who isn't trying to get rich? Ever hear of the lottery?
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#14157 Nov 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Not at all. There are not many union places anymore. Truck drivers will always be in demand and as such, will always pay a descent wage. In fact, the US is very short on truck drivers in this economy. We have drivers who have college degrees but can't find work in their fields. If the economy ever starts to move again, those people will scoot over to their chosen career and a stronger economy means more transportation even if they continued to drive.
Supply and demand.
Translation: Even in a time of elevated unemployment, few people will do such a lousy job for such little pay.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#14158 Nov 23, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
dow down 167 points
down markets show confidence in an economy
the past 7 days performance tells a story.
the slide continues
Dow up 172 to close over 13,000. Another amazing prediction.

In other news, Texas divides into 5 states and Stalin rises from the dead and declares his candidacy for Senator from Florida.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#14159 Nov 23, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Translation: Even in a time of elevated unemployment, few people will do such a lousy job for such little pay.
It doesn't pay bad. It's just that real Americans don't loaf on the taxpayers dime. Real Americans work and contribute instead of taking away.

Since: Feb 12

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#14161 Nov 23, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Ok, Mongo. Go back and read the exchange between me and your boy XXX where he told us his Pop was a life long union bricklayer. Then, think about whether I was asking XXX about his "Pop" and not mentioning you in a discussion that had absolutely nothing to do with you.
When you are this obtuse about things happening right in front of you, do you ever consider that your ability to process information is irreparably inferior and that it causes your political conclusions to be inferior as well?
Narcissism? Illusions of Grandeur? Napoleon Complex?

Since: Feb 12

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#14162 Nov 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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It doesn't pay bad. It's just that real Americans don't loaf on the taxpayers dime. Real Americans work and contribute instead of taking away.
We don't want them to contribute if they have to bitch and moan and whine every second, every minute, every hour of every day of every damn week of their goddamned lives, about how; the unfairness of living in a democratic society punishes them more than every other American and their taxes are used to prop up the lazy and the weak and the poor. Oh the injustice of it all. Just go Soverign American. Total freedom, no taxes, no hassles, no problems and the other Soverigns are absolutely special folk.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#14164 Nov 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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It doesn't pay bad. It's just that real Americans don't loaf on the taxpayers dime. Real Americans work and contribute instead of taking away.
You left out the part about bitching constitently about contributing.

Since: Feb 12

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#14165 Nov 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Not at all. There are not many union places anymore. Truck drivers will always be in demand and as such, will always pay a descent wage. In fact, the US is very short on truck drivers in this economy. We have drivers who have college degrees but can't find work in their fields. If the economy ever starts to move again, those people will scoot over to their chosen career and a stronger economy means more transportation even if they continued to drive.
Supply and demand.
Why would you want to work for a 'descent' wage, while cost of living is rising steadily? Doesn't make sense, but if Unions are non-existent, that is what we will all eventually be working for.

Since: Feb 12

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#14166 Nov 23, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't see how government should be stuck with pensions. Pensions are a thing of the past with most companies. Who has pensions today besides government workers which we are stuck paying for?
Anyway, happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.:-)
Stuff you don't know could fill the internet, XXX. Mitt Rmoney could have explained this to you very easily. He has lots of experience sticking us taxpayers with Pension costs.

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Since: Feb 12

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#14168 Nov 23, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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Narcissism? Illusions of Grandeur? Napoleon Complex?
My diagnosis for Mongo. ;-)
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#14172 Nov 24, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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We don't want them to contribute if they have to bitch and moan and whine every second, every minute, every hour of every day of every damn week of their goddamned lives, about how; the unfairness of living in a democratic society punishes them more than every other American and their taxes are used to prop up the lazy and the weak and the poor. Oh the injustice of it all. Just go Soverign American. Total freedom, no taxes, no hassles, no problems and the other Soverigns are absolutely special folk.
Or how about no social programs and people will learn how to work? Let charities take care of those who can't work. Oh, I forgot, we would rather support them and their huge expanding families than to hear them bitch and moan. If you're an American, you shouldn't complain about anything. Every time you get punched in the gut, you're supposed to take it and shut up. That's what made this country a great nation in the first place; nobody complained or fought for anything.

Of course there are exceptions to the rule. Environmental issues, gay marriage, religion in schools and public places, guns, taking even more money from the wealthy. We can complain about those issues. You can complain about how we don't take enough from productive people. That's in the liberal handbook. But when government takes from you, buddy, you better keep your silence.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#14173 Nov 24, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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Why would you want to work for a 'descent' wage, while cost of living is rising steadily? Doesn't make sense, but if Unions are non-existent, that is what we will all eventually be working for.
So what's better, working for less money or having the Chinese take those jobs?

It reminds me of the times liberals demand Americans boycott this or boycott that. Show X we will not stand for buying products from slave wage countries. We'll show them. We will pressure those companies out of those countries so those poor people have no job. Wow, do I feel good about myself. What a great thing I did.
Unions

Chillicothe, OH

#14174 Nov 24, 2012
Unions need to train their workers to become skilled workers and not to be non thinking workers.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#14175 Nov 24, 2012
Unions wrote:
Unions need to train their workers to become skilled workers and not to be non thinking workers.
If they were skilled workers, they wouldn't need unions.
Pops

United States

#14176 Nov 24, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Or how about no social programs and people will learn how to work? Let charities take care of those who can't work. Oh, I forgot, we would rather support them and their huge expanding families than to hear them bitch and moan. If you're an American, you shouldn't complain about anything. Every time you get punched in the gut, you're supposed to take it and shut up. That's what made this country a great nation in the first place; nobody complained or fought for anything.
Of course there are exceptions to the rule. Environmental issues, gay marriage, religion in schools and public places, guns, taking even more money from the wealthy. We can complain about those issues. You can complain about how we don't take enough from productive people. That's in the liberal handbook. But when government takes from you, buddy, you better keep your silence.
XXX. they still bitch & moan, like gluttonous baby birds.

Since: Aug 12

Indian Lake Estates, FL

#14177 Nov 24, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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If they were skilled workers, they wouldn't need unions.
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Xxx with the backboard breaking slam dunk!
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#14178 Nov 24, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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So what's better, working for less money or having the Chinese take those jobs?
It reminds me of the times liberals demand Americans boycott this or boycott that. Show X we will not stand for buying products from slave wage countries. We'll show them. We will pressure those companies out of those countries so those poor people have no job. Wow, do I feel good about myself. What a great thing I did.
What we need to do is abolish the minimum wage, don't you think? That way, instead of labor fighting for better jobs with better pay, the working man can eat their own competing for the lowest paying job possible with the worst working conditions. Honest to Christ, I have never encountered a person who is so willing as you are to be someone else's bitch.

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