Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

May 4, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Chattanoogan.com

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

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HeY

Cookeville, TN

#8480 Jul 30, 2013
SomeOne wrote:
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If you think that diiscovery.com is an acceptable site, then you are sadly mistaken.
If you are unable to find a scientifically acceptable source, then do so.
Locate a peer reviewed source for your claims . Do not draw conclusions that are not supported by the evidence and conclusions in the source. If you cannot understand this, then your opinion is simply that-- and need be heeded no more than that of the average preteen.
BTW it looks as if you also have a fan club by your judge its
Watch this. Here today gone today.
SomeOne

Mckenzie, TN

#8481 Jul 30, 2013
HeY wrote:
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BTW it looks as if you also have a fan club by your judge its
Watch this. Here today gone today.
So what is your point?
HeY

Cookeville, TN

#8482 Jul 30, 2013
SomeOne wrote:
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So what is your point?
I was bored and I find you amusing.
HeY

Cookeville, TN

#8483 Jul 30, 2013
I don't find this to be about good medicine I see it as good manipulation and a good buddy system.
How can one consider this as a trustworthy system?
There is talk about alterative medicine as a place full of Quacks yet it looks as if it was a setup with a little help from your friends.
Well let's see how the Quacks came to be.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/American...
SomeOne

Mckenzie, TN

#8484 Jul 31, 2013
HeY wrote:
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I was bored and I find you amusing.
So you admit that you have no point.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8485 Jul 31, 2013
SomeOne wrote:
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So you admit that you have no point.
It appears that in the previous post, just before this one you put up here I made a point but you don't seem to see that or address it.
So what's your point?
Why not address how there is this big partnership to advance the BIG Boys while the Govt. gets bribe money and the people get the wares they are peddling.
It is this set up where the Quackery lies, the deceit.
Now tell me it is reasonable to believe this manipulation, because that is what it is.
Come on bozo you got a source and a point so go for it.
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#8486 Jul 31, 2013
Nt goo idea in democracy like ours.
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#8487 Jul 31, 2013
Historic Precedent

In the momentous article "Medical Science Under Dictator-ship," Dr. Leo Alexander, the chief U.S. medical consultant at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials, examined "the process by which the German medical profession became a willing and unquestioning collaborator with the Nazis." He noted the early changes in medical attitudes that predisposed German physicians to first collect data on their patients to conduct what today we call "cost-effective analysis," and then to use the latter information as a vehicle to commit medical genocide under the auspices of the totalitarianism of National Socialism.
Dr. Alexander warns us that "from small beginnings" the values of an entire society may be subverted, leading to the horrors of a police state.
The "small beginnings" in Nazi Germany that Dr. Alexander referred to first led the physicians to collect data from their patients and then violate their patients' privacy and medical record confidentiality by supplying the information to the state.(6)
Organizations with humanitarian-sounding names were set up in Nazi Germany to institute "health" programs, under deceptive, euphemistic terms.
For example, questionnaires collected by a "Realm's Work Committee of Institutions for Cure and Care" gathered and reported information on patients who had been ill five years or more and who were unable to work.
"On the basis of name, race, marital status, nationality, next of kin, whether regularly visited and by whom, who bore financial responsibility, and so forth," decisions were ultimately made for the patient euthanasia program heralded by the Nazi government for the good of the state and the "health of the nation."
The first steps taken toward barbarism were the result of the physicians' willingness to participate in patient data collection and the violation of medical privacy. "Corrosion," as Dr. Alexander wrote, "begins in microscopic proportions."
German physicians were, more than any other profession, heavily represented in the Nazi Party, which they joined in droves.
German psychiatrists were no exception, and they also enthusiastically supported Nazi Germany's gun control laws of 1938 that disarmed the civilian population and left a monopoly of force in the hands of the German military and the SS.
The rest, as we say, is history.

AMA Becomes Political

As to the commitment of the AMA to weakening medical privacy and individual-based ethics in favor of population-based ethics and achieve a partnership with government, there is no longer any doubt.(7,8)
In the case of the American Psychiatric Association, one only has to peruse its position statement on homicide prevention and gun control promulgated by its leadership as early as 1993: "In view of the need to reinforce individual and group sanctions against the use of violence as a social instrument, behavioral mode, or adaptorional [sic] pattern, as psychiatrists have done with drug abuse, suicidal actions, and antisocial behavior, the American Psychiatric Association recommends that strong controls be placed on the availability of all types of firearms to private citizens."(9)
Why would the AMA and organized medicine become involved in this politically expedient but potentially explosive issue of gun control and condone the systematic violation of the privacy of vulnerable patients?

http://www.haciendapub.com/edcor8.html
SomeOne

Mckenzie, TN

#8488 Jul 31, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
It appears that in the previous post, just before this one you put up here I made a point but you don't seem to see that or address it.
So what's your point?
Why not address how there is this big partnership to advance the BIG Boys while the Govt. gets bribe money and the people get the wares they are peddling.
It is this set up where the Quackery lies, the deceit.
Now tell me it is reasonable to believe this manipulation, because that is what it is.
Come on bozo you got a source and a point so go for it.
You are asking for me to agree to a proposition that is counter-intuitive, without having provided academically respectable-peer reviewed sources.

You are responsible for providing the source. I am not. U

You either cannot, or will not provide the complete sources. It doesn't matter which. Until you provide such, i need not take your opinions seriously.
SomeOne

Mckenzie, TN

#8489 Jul 31, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
Historic Precedent
In the momentous article "Medical Science Under Dictator-ship," Dr. Leo Alexander, the chief U.S. medical consultant at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials, examined "the process by which the German medical profession became a willing and unquestioning collaborator with the Nazis." He noted the early changes in medical attitudes that predisposed German physicians to first collect data on their patients to conduct what today we call "cost-effective analysis," and then to use the latter information as a vehicle to commit medical genocide under the auspices of the totalitarianism of National Socialism.
Dr. Alexander warns us that "from small beginnings" the values of an entire society may be subverted, leading to the horrors of a police state.
The "small beginnings" in Nazi Germany that Dr. Alexander referred to first led the physicians to collect data from their patients and then violate their patients' privacy and medical record confidentiality by supplying the information to the state.(6)
Organizations with humanitarian-sounding names were set up in Nazi Germany to institute "health" programs, under deceptive, euphemistic terms.
For example, questionnaires collected by a "Realm's Work Committee of Institutions for Cure and Care" gathered and reported information on patients who had been ill five years or more and who were unable to work.
"On the basis of name, race, marital status, nationality, next of kin, whether regularly visited and by whom, who bore financial responsibility, and so forth," decisions were ultimately made for the patient euthanasia program heralded by the Nazi government for the good of the state and the "health of the nation."
The first steps taken toward barbarism were the result of the physicians' willingness to participate in patient data collection and the violation of medical privacy. "Corrosion," as Dr. Alexander wrote, "begins in microscopic proportions."
German physicians were, more than any other profession, heavily represented in the Nazi Party, which they joined in droves.
German psychiatrists were no exception, and they also enthusiastically supported Nazi Germany's gun control laws of 1938 that disarmed the civilian population and left a monopoly of force in the hands of the German military and the SS.
The rest, as we say, is history.
AMA Becomes Political
As to the commitment of the AMA to weakening medical privacy and individual-based ethics in favor of population-based ethics and achieve a partnership with government, there is no longer any doubt.(7,8)
In the case of the American Psychiatric Association, one only has to peruse its position statement on homicide prevention and gun control promulgated by its leadership as early as 1993: "In view of the need to reinforce individual and group sanctions against the use of violence as a social instrument, behavioral mode, or adaptorional [sic] pattern, as psychiatrists have done with drug abuse, suicidal actions, and antisocial behavior, the American Psychiatric Association recommends that strong controls be placed on the availability of all types of firearms to private citizens."(9)
Why would the AMA and organized medicine become involved in this politically expedient but potentially explosive issue of gun control and condone the systematic violation of the privacy of vulnerable patients?
http://www.haciendapub.com/edcor8.html
Page not found for your source.
Fred

Accra, Ghana

#8490 Jul 31, 2013
Is it democratic to fart in public?
SoneOne

Mckenzie, TN

#8491 Jul 31, 2013
Fred wrote:
Is it democratic to fart in public?
Yes, provided the majority agree
OH YEAH

Cookeville, TN

#8492 Jul 31, 2013
Sam wrote:
Supreme Court ruled you can't sue Big Pharma.
lol...and wonder WHY ???? SHEEP! Follow and see what happens. I happen to have a child that had the "so called baby shots" (paid for!) and at age 4, came down with the German Measles. What do you make of that? NO MORE GOVERNMENT VACCINES FOR MY FAMILY! I'll take our chances with faith in GOD!

Maybe staying away from those that get "free" medical and think they have to abuse it is the best answer. Sheep followers!
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8493 Jul 31, 2013
SomeOne wrote:
<quoted text>
Page not found for your source.
Please get your act together, bozo, I found it.
You absolutely have source issues don't you?
SomeOne

Mckenzie, TN

#8494 Jul 31, 2013
Hey wrote:
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Please get your act together, bozo, I found it.
You absolutely have source issues don't you?
The url pasted into my browser produced a "page not found" error.

You have the source issues: you can't produce any.

You name calling is evidence that you have no relevant argument.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8495 Jul 31, 2013
SomeOne wrote:
<quoted text>
The url pasted into my browser produced a "page not found" error.
You have the source issues: you can't produce any.
You name calling is evidence that you have no relevant argument.
Name calling?
Y'all don't have fond memories of our clown friend Bozo?
How about our little precious Raggedy Ann doll?
Did you know the Raggedy Ann doll was a fathers tribute to his daughter who died from the Small Pox Vaccine?
No scientific studies done on this sad fact.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8496 Jul 31, 2013
SomeOne wrote:
<quoted text>
The url pasted into my browser produced a "page not found" error.
You have the source issues: you can't produce any.
You name calling is evidence that you have no relevant argument.
Y'all are continually spouting off on everyone and everything where's all you sources?
SomeOne

Mckenzie, TN

#8497 Jul 31, 2013
Hey wrote:
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Y'all are continually spouting off on everyone and everything where's all you sources?
Why are you so reluctant to provide sources?
SomeOne

Mckenzie, TN

#8498 Jul 31, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
Name calling?
Y'all don't have fond memories of our clown friend Bozo?
How about our little precious Raggedy Ann doll?
Did you know the Raggedy Ann doll was a fathers tribute to his daughter who died from the Small Pox Vaccine?
No scientific studies done on this sad fact.
Keep it up. The more crap like this that you post the less plausible your statements become. The sillier you seem to be.

I am sure the world would be a better place today if there had been no small pox vaccine. That is the implication of your view on vaccinations.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8499 Jul 31, 2013
SomeOne wrote:
<quoted text>
Keep it up. The more crap like this that you post the less plausible your statements become. The sillier you seem to be.
I am sure the world would be a better place today if there had been no small pox vaccine. That is the implication of your view on vaccinations.
Why are you not posting your sources that say this statement is untrue.
You appear dumber and dumber calling me out and you have nothing to back yourself up. You have no sources yourself Bozo.
Oh my. You are not really quite so clever after all.

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