Should state mandate immunizations? N...

Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

There are 9780 comments on the Chattanoogan.com story from May 4, 2011, titled Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July. In it, Chattanoogan.com reports that:

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

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Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7614 May 16, 2013
Silvermaven wrote:
How many people do you know that are stuck in iron lungs or walking around in braces because of polio?
None fool. When they infected us all with spirochetal prion protein infections in HeLa cells from a woman who had Syphilis after playing with it for 50yrs. in many countries and many peoples and added Mycoplasma to the mix and then more spirochetal disease in Lyme vaccines, we now tolerize those infections. IN FACT 1/3 of the worlds pop.s ARE infected with TB.
A third of the world’s population has latent infection with Mycobacterium tuberculosis;
and 10-15% of the reactivating cases occur at
extrapulmonary sites without active pulmonary tuberculosis.
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2...
How many children have you seen die to scarlet fever?
NONE. Because of the immune suppression caused by vaccines we now tolerate those infections quite well. In fact almost ALL Autism have Chronic Strep and Staph infections.
The only ones who get Full Fledged Mahogony colored skin as in Scarlet fever are the ones who actually have immune systems to FIGHT!
How many times have you been forced to stay home from work with a bad case of the small pox?
AND, why is it that all these things which you claim are caused by vaccination pre-date vaccination?
The only people who are getting the real smallpox are people like the 22 US soldiers killing themselves a day and don't know why!!!
Yes I would gladly stay home with my child to have some kind of natural immunity from whole organisms than the immune suppression genetically altered have left us with...Which is NONE!
In fact the only people getting Polio are those vaccinated for it because they KNEW those infectious antigens would recombine in infections they already have!!!
Its called Vaccine Induced Polio
Any more questions? Fire away!
Wow, you are all over the place.

You are actually blaming vaccines which prevent viruses for chronic bacterial infections which are a result of antibiotic resistant strains.

Between two different posts, you've claimed that 1 in 22 people are Autistic and that nearly all autistic people have chronic strep. Which means that ~1 in 25 people have chronic strep? Seriously?

Given how strep is contagious, you would think we'd notice if the infection rate were that high.

By the way, "epidemic".

You've made claims without foundation nor evidence.
You've failed to address my points that polio is NOT a disease which effects people in America anymore.

We know EXACTLY when the polio vaccine was administered, so show me that medical data that shows a corresponding rise in whatever disease you think was caused by the vaccine. That data should be EASY for you to find.

I'm not talking speculation about potential effects on the immune system blah blah blah.

I'm talking REAL cases of REAL disease. We vaccinated the ENTIRE country in a very short period of time. Where's the data?

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7616 May 16, 2013
Say What wrote:
I wasn't talking about sucrose, and I never said I didn't know what it was!
You posted that sucrose was in vaccines, that you didn't know what it was or what it did and therefore you were scared of it.
Or how about that formaldehyde? Isn't that embalming fluid? And has been associated to cancer.
Formaldehyde is generated BY YOUR BODY at a HIGHER concentration than it is found in vaccines.

If it's dangerous in the vaccine, why aren't you dropping dead of the HIGHER AMOUNT already in your body?
“Aluminum may reach toxic levels with prolonged parenteral administration [this means injected into the body] if kidney function is impaired
You are missing TWO important parts of the above sentence.
PROLONGED
and
IF KIDNEY FUNCTION IS IMPAIRED

Vaccines are not prolonged and aren't given to someone suffering kidney failure.
I do my research friend. And I have about a million more things I could post on the ingredients why bother.
If they are as invalid as the posts you are already posting, your right you shouldn't bother.

You're one of those people that only understands half the words and thinks they can read the book.
Your choices are your rights and mine are my rights. And I choose NOT to put that crap into my children!
First, you don't have the right to endanger the lives of your children by making bad medical decisions on their behalf. They are not your possessions.

Second, if you do choose to keep your kids from getting vaccinated, they should not be allowed in public.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7617 May 16, 2013
Silvermaven wrote:
Gene sharing stealth infections caused by infecting us all with spirochetal disease and junk DNA vaccines is the real cause of AIDS
....riiiiiiight.

Because in the 80s, only homosexuals and IV drug users were getting vaccinations.

I guess it's just a MASSIVE coincidence that we can track AIDS cases by sexual contact with people carrying HIV.

Clearly no correlation there except for the 100% correlation.
Say What

Kenton, TN

#7618 May 16, 2013
I am NOT endangering my children's lives. I would be endangering their lives by not researching these ingredients and what they can or can not do. I have the RIGHT to choose what is injected into my children until they are old enough to decide for themselves what is safe for them. Vaccines are suppose to help prevent or reduce the symptoms of sickness. It is NOT a guaranteed plastic bubble that will keep your kids from getting the disease or dying from it. There are too many reports of kids getting vaccinated and still catching these diseases and even dying from them.
Also, you forgot to mention where the above said "including premature neonates [babies],". Premature infants are recommended to vaccinated on schedule, even with their organs being underdeveloped. Yes, that article was mainly towards preemies and people with weakened kidneys. But can you tell me what the "safe" amount of aluminum one can handle at one time is?
Fly on the wall

Orenburg, Russia

#7619 May 16, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
....riiiiiiight.
Because in the 80s, only homosexuals and IV drug users were getting vaccinations.
I guess it's just a MASSIVE coincidence that we can track AIDS cases by sexual contact with people carrying HIV.
Clearly no correlation there except for the 100% correlation.
Can you get aids from gay activities?
Say What

Kenton, TN

#7620 May 16, 2013
So by you saying that if I chose not to vax then my kids shouldn't be allowed in public or that I am endangering them by not doing it, then you are also saying that my religious beliefs should be ignored or looked down on with shame? correct?
roxyb

United States

#7621 May 17, 2013
Ur jbear wld never speak to u that way ;(
Say What wrote:
So by you saying that if I chose not to vax then my kids shouldn't be allowed in public or that I am endangering them by not doing it, then you are also saying that my religious beliefs should be ignored or looked down on with shame? correct?
WV Mountain Mama

Huntington, WV

#7623 May 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
So you?
You're complaining about sucrose?!
Just because a word is longer than you are comfortable with doesn't make it dangerous.
Your ignorance does not make vaccines unsafe.
She's not complaining about sucrose. She is listing the ingredients in the vaccine. Sheesh.

Ignorance does not make vaccines unsafe...they are unavoidably unsafe according to a recent vaccine court ruling. They are unsafe in and of themselves, despite a person's knowledge about their ingredients and such.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7624 May 17, 2013
Say What wrote:
I am NOT endangering my children's lives.
If you are failing to get them vaccinated against disease which are preventable, then you ARE endangering their lives.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7625 May 17, 2013
Fly on the wall wrote:
<quoted text>Can you get aids from gay activities?
AIDS is a syndrome caused by the damage to the T-cells which in turn is caused by HIV.

So, you can't catch AIDS. Just like you can't catch a soar throat, but you can catch the virus which causes the soar throat.

HIV is transmitted a number of ways, one of them being sexuality. In the 80s it was rampant in the gay community in the US. It was also rampant among people who shared needles. Obviously, there is some overlap between those two groups.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7626 May 17, 2013
Say What wrote:
So by you saying that if I chose not to vax then my kids shouldn't be allowed in public or that I am endangering them by not doing it, then you are also saying that my religious beliefs should be ignored or looked down on with shame? correct?
YOUR religious beliefs should only effect YOUR health and welfare, not the health and welfare of your children.

You do not own your children. They are US citizens and have the right to be protected from dangerous religious practices being forced upon them.

The courts have been EXCEEDINGLY clear on this. Denying your child medical care because of your personal religious beliefs in criminal behavior.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7627 May 17, 2013
WV Mountain Mama wrote:
<quoted text>
She's not complaining about sucrose. She is listing the ingredients in the vaccine. Sheesh.
Ignorance does not make vaccines unsafe...they are unavoidably unsafe according to a recent vaccine court ruling. They are unsafe in and of themselves, despite a person's knowledge about their ingredients and such.
What you are talking about is the fact that virtually every product (vaccines, medicine, food, etc) is going to have some percentage of the population which is allergic to some part of it.

The percentage of people who are allergic to a given vaccine is exceedingly small. If we have knowledge of a persons allergy ahead of time, they can get an exemption.

However, we do not exempt 20% of the public from vaccination because .01% of the public is allergic.

As for "safety", you need to compare outcomes.

A certain number of people have their collarbones broken by their seatbelts in car accidents each year.

Does that mean we should remove seatbelts?

The risk to your children by not vaccinating them is far worse and far more likely than your risk for vaccinating them.
addy baby

United States

#7628 May 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
AIDS is a syndrome caused by the damage to the T-cells which in turn is caused by HIV.
So, you can't catch AIDS. Just like you can't catch a soar throat, but you can catch the virus which causes the soar throat.
HIV is transmitted a number of ways, one of them being sexuality. In the 80s it was rampant in the gay community in the US. It was also rampant among people who shared needles. Obviously, there is some overlap between those two groups.
handclap!!! Did u write this shit dwn from a pamplet? Oh wait,u know evry mofo thing,dnt u...srry oh mighty one,i forgot ;)

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7629 May 17, 2013
addy baby wrote:
<quoted text> handclap!!! Did u write this shit dwn from a pamplet? Oh wait,u know evry mofo thing,dnt u...srry oh mighty one,i forgot ;)
This is, and has been, common knowledge for 20+ years.

You shouldn't need a pamphlet, this disease has gotten a TON of press. If you were only mildly paying attention you would know this.
addy baby

United States

#7630 May 17, 2013
This isnt all three of us like i want tho.im bein left out on soo many levels,even tho its all about me.its not fair at all to me coz i want us to b together n fully xperience evrything at the max possible together n yall r hidin things n runnin around the truth n bickerin over me n i want u both,u two have each other n me at the max level,i have me n feelings only to a certain extent.yall dnt treat me how i want n deserve u too n yall need me that way too,but u wont trust n let me in,fully.
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7631 May 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
YOUR religious beliefs should only effect YOUR health and welfare, not the health and welfare of your children.
You do not own your children. They are US citizens and have the right to be protected from dangerous religious practices being forced upon them.
The courts have been EXCEEDINGLY clear on this. Denying your child medical care because of your personal religious beliefs in criminal behavior.
It is life itself that is the true owner of the children.
It is the parents right and responsibility to protect and care for them.
It appears you believe you have the right, as you believe does the government to dictate and take ownership without the real effort that it takes to feed,clothe and care for the child till they are old enough to take care or themseves.
When you fully support all the children, then perhaps we can discuss other options.
addy baby

United States

#7632 May 17, 2013
I jst shit evry gd wer,come change my diapy

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7633 May 17, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
It is life itself that is the true owner of the children.
It is the parents right and responsibility to protect and care for them.
It appears you believe you have the right, as you believe does the government to dictate and take ownership without the real effort that it takes to feed,clothe and care for the child till they are old enough to take care or themseves.
When you fully support all the children, then perhaps we can discuss other options.
I'll make this simple for you.

Recently, a couple followed their religious beliefs and "prayed" for their child to be cured of a chronic ear infection which subsequently led to his death.

Had this child received a normal course of antibiotics, he would be alive and well.

This was the THIRD child these parents have sacrificed in this way.

Is it their right to deny these children medical attention, knowing that it will lead to the child's preventable death?
-or-
Is it the duty of the rest of the citizens to step in and protect a fellow citizen from unjust, unsafe and unfair practices which are being forced upon them by this couple?

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#7634 May 17, 2013
Fly on the wall wrote:
<quoted text>Can you get aids from gay activities?
Naw, so just knock yourself out...LITERALLY!

Memo to Self: One down and a few Million more to go...until we're Scud Troll-Free on Topix.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#7635 May 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
This is, and has been, common knowledge for 20+ years.
You shouldn't need a pamphlet, this disease has gotten a TON of press. If you were only mildly paying attention you would know this.
Now Nuggin, isn't it obvious that these People can't or won't read any News Articles? C'mon, you asking for the impossible!
Ignorance is TRULY Bliss for them!

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