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Pete, that's what the Republicans are now claiming...that they are trying to save Social Security, but it is well known and has been all of my Life, that Republicans have never liked Social Security since FDR instituted it, nor do they have like Medicare.
Over the years, they have tried many times to get rid of it, even in Good Economic times. It's well documented if you would care to research it. I remember it well because , even though my Dad was a Republican, every time the Republicans came up with a new scheme to try and get rid of Social Security, he would start calling them some unflattering Names and directing it to the TV. As a Kid, I thought it was funny to see him do that, but he would be furious!
My Dad remembered the depression, even though he was just a Kid and he and his Mom and Dad were some of the ones like you see in the old clips, gathered in front of the Radio, listening to FDR's "Fireside Chats".
Make no mistake about it, this is the beginning of the end of Social Security, if what is proposed is signed into Law and ALL of us Baby Boomers know it!
End to social security, I seriously doubt that, what would all the old people do?

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Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Well Sassy, I'm not anything close to being a expert on this, but from what I do know is that we live in a everchanging universe. A universe at this point in time is very calm. But that can change in a flash and life as we know it will be over.
I believe President Obama is right to go out and try to capture a asteroid, no two are alike and to study it.
As the European Space Agency is doing right now with their Rosetta Probe, they will be landing on a Comet(no two are alike) next year and take a wild ride on it as it circles the Sun. This type of thing is just very interesting to me, as we need to know everything about these objects as they can end our life.
That makes me feel better about it, to know that somebody else has plans to explore it also. I was just thinking that if we were the first Ones, would we disrupt something that we might regret later on. But, if it's going to be disrupted anyway, what have we got to lose and we might gain something from it. Thanks, Dunlapian, for that Post, I didn't know about the European Space Agency and their Plans, but now I do.

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<quoted text>you are a liar a fool a wrinkled up bisexual bitch did i mention a liar and a fool....look stuff up before you shoot off your nicotine pucked moth fool.
Again, I see the conservative "Christians" were busy last night.

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Grandpappy wrote:
<quoted text>End to social security, I seriously doubt that, what would all the old people do?
Just like they did before Social Security. Get by anyway they could and it would shorten their lives. Social Security was instituted because the Lives of Old People were very poor and sad and it would be worse now for the your Kids and the younger Generations because Families are more scattered now than they were in the 1930's.
It's all online and there have been many Documentaries on Life before Social Security for Old People and if you had seen any of them, you would not believe things were ever that bad for Older Americans...but, they were. Abject Proverty in most cases, with Old People living and lying in the Streets of big Cities because they were Homeless. And what about Medical Care and Nursing Home care? You need to consider those too, because they would also be affected by No Social Security and/or No Medicare.
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I'm afraid that we're going to HAVE to go to War with Iran. Another very bad consequence of taking out Saddam Hussein, Iran's Number One Enemy and the One who kept Iran in line, so we didn't have to! What a mistake the Iraq War was!
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"Constitution Check: Can A Local Government Order Every Family In Town To have A Gun?"

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Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>OT, another thing about this chained CPI that Our President Obama has on the table, he is not running again, and next year when all those Congress Men/Women run for re-election, the Seniors know all about COLA and Social Security and how they voted.
Stay tuned......"it's not over until the fat lady sings".
Well I guess the night crew will soon be arriving!
Well my friend, I hope you are right. I get the feeling that the powers that be in Washington have determined it is somehow courageous for Obama to take on his own party on Social Security and Medicare cuts. That somehow means testing Medicare would be good for the program and that cutting benefits for future retirees will "save" the program. I think the reason that these programs receive near universal support from the electorate is BECAUSE they are for every American who paid into them, and that the benefits are fair and equitable. In my opinion, when you change those facts, you erode that universal approval for the programs.
I posted a day or two ago that some friends of mine who happen to be Republicans, were at least as outraged as I was about the Obama proposals...I SEROIUSLY doubt that would be the case if means testing were a component of these programs.
A Republican President could never destroy these programs. The public would not allow it, that would take a Democratic President and in my opinion, Obama has now opened Pandora's box. I hope I am wrong and you are right.....and only time will tell.
Pete

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Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Pete, I don't drink Brandy.(don't talk down to me!)
As I have explained before SS as it is now is good to go for about another 15-20 years years without doing anything.
Now with that said, I have also mentioned things in past topix we can do to bump it up in the mean time.
If it's just one thing that Seniors know about, and that one thing is called COLA. They look foward to it, and they vote accordingly. Now chained CPI starts off very slowly, not much different than Cola, but the difference is very little, but less non the same and each year the difference becomes greater.
Pete, you are wrong about calling SS an entitlement. This program has been fully funded by employees and employers without anyneed for a Gov't subsidy. One cannot call it a entitlement because the money issued to the recipient is theirs to begin with.
For some reason after I have read your whole post, you seem to think I'm poor and just living off my SS benefits....... nothing could be further from the truth. SS is just part of my financial strategy.
Oh yeah about that rose, you can go stick it up........well maybe I should wrap things up now as you are starting to make my skin crawl.
Again Dunlapian, chill out, I never insinuated you were poor or needy. The rose was my attempt at a bit of humor regarding your pessimism. It's supposed to be a nice day today, hope you enjoy it.
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SexySassySenior wrote:
"Evaluate the People in your Life; then Promote, Demote, or Terminate. You're the CEO of your Life!"
~~ Author Unknown ~~
Proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that most people are not cut out to be CEO's.

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Jerry wrote:
<quoted text>What about the ones that worked hard paid into SS for 50+ years then just up and died, never collecting a dime from SS?
So today it's Jerry from Hanoi, Vietnam......how clever!
As with a husband who paid into SS for 50+ years and dies, his spouse will recieve it if it is larger than hers, and if they have a disabled son/daughter they will also be covered. You know I even think that Prophet Jesus would like this idea, as it cares for the meek, less fortunate, ect.

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NTMD8OR wrote:
<quoted text>Don't get her started. She is a self proclaimed expert on everything. She tells us that she has been a trucking company owner, worked in medicine, convenience stores, 911 dispatcher, just to name a few of the many jobs she has claimed. No telling how many more she will tell you about before she is through. Now she sits here on topix 24/7 filling the threads with spam from every left-wing fanatic propaganda site that she can find.
Hey i have been around also from homeless bum to tax payer done it all not stuck in a rut like some people any fool can do the same thing day in and day out and cry because they think they are under paid hell if you dont like the pay go where the pay is better i have quit better jobs than most people have ever had like i said i have did it all from ditch digger to flying a airplane some people need to git off their dead a$$ and see what life rilley like
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SexySassySenior wrote:
I'm afraid that we're going to HAVE to go to War with Iran. Another very bad consequence of taking out Saddam Hussein, Iran's Number One Enemy and the One who kept Iran in line, so we didn't have to! What a mistake the Iraq War was!
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Iraq went to war with Iran back in the early 80s.It went pretty good for Iraq until Iran started dending over wave after wave of men.Pretty soon Saddam started us poison gas and that only made things go from bad to worse.After many years of war it ended pretty much with no border changes but thousands on each side were killed.In order to go to war with Iran Saddam borrowed millions of dolllars from France,Germany,Russia just to buy fighter planes and tanks and other weapon systems.In order to pay off his debt he then invaded Kuwait to get their oil reserves and that led to war with the United Staes and othe U.N. forces and that went badly too.To put in mildly Saddam was a thug with only one goal and that was to kill as many people as he could.Saddam would have had trouble keeping Iran in line for anything.

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SexySassySenior wrote:
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Mixing Politics and Religion is destroying this Country. The Founding Fathers knew that form what was happening to England and from which, it has never fully recovered. That's precisely why they put the "separation of Church and State" in the Constitution.
For ANYBODY to try and subvert that, in any way, is a Christian Radical...or any other Religion for that matter...and as dangerous and traitorous as any member of Al Qaeda! It just so happens that the Christian Radicals are the only Ones trying to do it, to my knowledge. It's why so many People in this County in this Country are leaving Christianity and Organized Religion , altogether...and they are leaving in droves!
'Separation of Church and State' appears NOWHERE in the Constitution.
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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Well my friend, I hope you are right. I get the feeling that the powers that be in Washington have determined it is somehow courageous for Obama to take on his own party on Social Security and Medicare cuts. That somehow means testing Medicare would be good for the program and that cutting benefits for future retirees will "save" the program. I think the reason that these programs receive near universal support from the electorate is BECAUSE they are for every American who paid into them, and that the benefits are fair and equitable. In my opinion, when you change those facts, you erode that universal approval for the programs.
I posted a day or two ago that some friends of mine who happen to be Republicans, were at least as outraged as I was about the Obama proposals...I SEROIUSLY doubt that would be the case if means testing were a component of these programs.
A Republican President could never destroy these programs. The public would not allow it, that would take a Democratic President and in my opinion, Obama has now opened Pandora's box. I hope I am wrong and you are right.....and only time will tell.
Yes OT, I hope I am right about how President Obama is handling these issues. I believe you can agree with me that he did not become the President because of his connections in D.C.
With that said, your Republican friends were also outraged with his proposals........(President Obama is not up for re-election)so very soon all Congressman/Women will have to show their hand as to where they stand. That will be a big issue next year when some of them will be up for re-election.

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Further concerning separation of church and state Sassy:

They can be traced back to a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote back in 1802. In October 1801, the Danbury Baptist Association of Connecticut wrote to President Jefferson, and in their letter they voiced some concerns about Religious Freedom. On January 1, 1802 Jefferson wrote a letter to them in which he added the phrase "Separation of Church and State." When you read the full letter, you will understand that Jefferson was simply underscoring the First Amendment as a guardian of the peoples religious freedom from government interference.

In part, the letter reads, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."

In fact, 3 days after Jefferson wrote those words, he attended church in the largest congregation in North America at the time. This church held its weekly worship services on government property, in the House Chambers of the U.S. Capital Building.

The wall of separation applies everywhere in the country even on government property , without government interference. This is how it is written in the Constitution, this is how Thomas Jefferson understood it from his letter and actions, and this is how the men who wrote the Constitution practiced it.

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One note for those 'separation of church and state' enthusiasts...

While the words "Separation of Church and State" do not appear in the United States Constitution, they DO appear in the constitution of the former U.S.S.R. Communist State.

Interesting, don't you think?

“IMNTBHO”

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Dunlapian wrote:
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Pete, you are wrong about calling SS an entitlement. This program has been fully funded by employees and employers without anyneed for a Gov't subsidy. One cannot call it a entitlement because the money issued to the recipient is theirs to begin with.
Now this is one place I didsagree with you Dunlapian. I believe that SS and Medicare are indeed entitlements. Welfare and Medicaid, however, are not. I believe that people are "entitled" to what they pay for. I do not believe people are "entitled" to charity.

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Nuh_ wrote:
One note for those 'separation of church and state' enthusiasts...
While the words "Separation of Church and State" do not appear in the United States Constitution, they DO appear in the constitution of the former U.S.S.R. Communist State.
Interesting, don't you think?
I offer an interesting video for your perusal. I had the honor of meeting this individual and found him to be totally remarkable in every way.

This video speaks to the coming constabulary force in America. Thanks!

I ask my friends to watch the video: http://bit.ly/c4xHNs
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In February of this year Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee.

It didn't go like they expected.

What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress should be read by all. Here is a portion of the transcript:

"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good &evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers."

The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart."

In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun.

I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.

I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -- it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.

Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?"
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!

"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact.

What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws.

Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.

"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him.

To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!"

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