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AT least FOX News has both side, which lets me decide what is going on unlike the other side being mindless and lead down the primrose path to destruction.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
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Now Leon Panetta mentions financial and drug problems, I believe if you have financial problems that I believe would lead to drug problems, not the other way around
That is why I was so upset that the Republicans killed the "Veterans Jobs Bill".
I also think young people today take on way to much responsibility like getting married, having kids, or visa versa. I think they should all stay single for at LEAST 5 years after high school.
I agree. I do not know (yet) what Leon Panetta said, but our common sense tells us that lack of hope has to play some part in the use of drugs among the teens and 20's.If they are sitting in a household where nobody works, or somebody (their mule) works 2 or 3 part-time jobs and somebody else fakes a disability to get by, and Sis's baby qualifies them for housing where one or some of them can crash...If they wake every morning and face every weekend knowing this is the kind of day they will know for the rest of their lives...God, I am getting depressed just talking about it...let's go cook some poison.
I am playing Devil's advocate here. Hell,I will not cook poison or take stuff that does not change the real situation!Where are their brains?
We have to work toward a stronger job market.

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Jan 6, 2013
 
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First if all the Rollingstone is a very liberal paper. So you are a very liberal person. Let me ask you, if NBS, MSNBC, CNN, CBS etc. are so good why is it they only have liberals/ democrats on the shows they have spitting out information about the other side. WHyis there a double standard for the lib and Conservs. Yes we both have our far fringes but its the left middle to far left that worries me. Most of these are drawbacks from the hippie days where free love, drugs where started. If you recall that was during JFK/Johnsons time. Oh JFK was a conservative. MY goodness, over half of this nation is taking from the gov. in one way or the other."Why should I work if I can make it and not do nothing" You have the vote and from now on it will be republican only. But remember this. Those kids that were not hippies, grew up training their kids to watch out for your kind. The children of today especially those college kids when they hit reality and find the cannot find a job. Maybe another 20 years, if China does not attack us and take us over.
What on earth does your Post have to do with the Article or even the Title? Try reading the Article before you do your rant! And since you didn't read it, I'll tell you that it has absolutely nothing to do with anything you posted...you can read the Title, can't you?

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Jan 6, 2013
 
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AT least FOX News has both side, which lets me decide what is going on unlike the other side being mindless and lead down the primrose path to destruction.
You won't even read anthing that isn't OK'ed by Fox News...how pitifully brainwashed and controlled you are!
Just stay stupid, it's not going to bother me nor affect me.

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Jan 6, 2013
 
...anything...
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Jan 6, 2013
 
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I agree. I do not know (yet) what Leon Panetta said, but our common sense tells us that lack of hope has to play some part in the use of drugs among the teens and 20's.If they are sitting in a household where nobody works, or somebody (their mule) works 2 or 3 part-time jobs and somebody else fakes a disability to get by, and Sis's baby qualifies them for housing where one or some of them can crash...If they wake every morning and face every weekend knowing this is the kind of day they will know for the rest of their lives...God, I am getting depressed just talking about it...let's go cook some poison.
I am playing Devil's advocate here. Hell,I will not cook poison or take stuff that does not change the real situation!Where are their brains?
We have to work toward a stronger job market.
No jobs should make any smart person decide not to marry or mmake a baby right now!Think how many married people split up becuz of $$ problems. Some people on our local forum think that working at our textile plant, the lint or the atmosphere or something, leads to fornification and marriages splitting up. But I think the problems are worse where the couple is not lucky enough to even have a job--how can they hang together and take care of the baby through the stress--I think it is better not to have the baby in hard times.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
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I agree. I do not know (yet) what Leon Panetta said, but our common sense tells us that lack of hope has to play some part in the use of drugs among the teens and 20's.If they are sitting in a household where nobody works, or somebody (their mule) works 2 or 3 part-time jobs and somebody else fakes a disability to get by, and Sis's baby qualifies them for housing where one or some of them can crash...If they wake every morning and face every weekend knowing this is the kind of day they will know for the rest of their lives...God, I am getting depressed just talking about it...let's go cook some poison.
I am playing Devil's advocate here. Hell,I will not cook poison or take stuff that does not change the real situation!Where are their brains?
We have to work toward a stronger job market.
Judge me a lemon. I started off talking about your Leon Panetta statement but rambled, I know. I worry about how hard times are making morals worse, and we were allready in trouble with weaker family values before the awful recession hit!
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In fact, Bush told them (a known fact that keep getting buried)that if they kept loaning money on homes people who could not pay for them, failing of the banks would happen.
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We're creating... an ownership society in this country, where more Americans than ever will be able to open up their door where they live and say, welcome to my house, welcome to my piece of property.- President George W. Bush, October 2004.[2]
Oh, you're SO smart. But HoT is correct. The Bush Admin had been warning about Fannie & Freddie. But your party of morons and the press called this racism. Remember that mensa member Maxine Waters testifying in 2004 and saying, Mr. Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and in particular at Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines. Everything in the 1992 act has worked just fine.”

I guess that’s not on your DNC list of witty comebacks.

Of course the reason she was testifying was that beginning in April 2001, the Bush Administration’s FY02 budget declared that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.” And in May of 2002, the President called for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

This lead to Freddie Mac announcing in 2003, that it had to “restate” financial results for the previous three years. This was kinda like the shit hitting the fan, if you will. Indeed, in February, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) released a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of GSE obligations,”“the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market.

Was anyone listening? No! We were too busy making fun of Bush to pay attention.

In September Fannie Mae disclosed the SEC investigation and acknowledged OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

Uh, oh. Earnings “manipulations”. I like that term. It’s liberal for “We f_cked you over.”

In October, Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error. I mean manipulation. Just a small one.

In February 2004, the President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator:“The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.”

Well, that was too much for democrats. Barney Frank called the Bush admin “racist”, Maxine supported ole Franklin Raines, probably because she was getting part of the $90 million he took when he left.

One thing is for sure though, Obama will never be able to say,“We're creating... an ownership society in this country.” On the other hand, maybe he will. The government will own the people.
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Truth Detector wrote:
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Oh, you're SO smart. But HoT is correct. The Bush Admin had been warning about Fannie & Freddie. But your party of morons and the press called this racism. Remember that mensa member Maxine Waters testifying in 2004 and saying, Mr. Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and in particular at Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines. Everything in the 1992 act has worked just fine.”
Of course the reason she was testifying was that beginning in April 2001, the Bush Administration’s FY02 budget declared that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.” And in May of 2002, the President called for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
This lead to Freddie Mac announcing in 2003, that it had to “restate” financial results for the previous three years. This was kinda like the shit hitting the fan, if you will. Indeed, in February, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) released a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of GSE obligations,”“the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market.
Was anyone listening? No! We were too busy making fun of Bush to pay attention.
In September Fannie Mae disclosed the SEC investigation and acknowledged OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.
Uh, oh. Earnings “manipulations”. I like that term. It’s liberal for “We f_cked you over.”
In October, Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error. I mean manipulation. Just a small one.
In February 2004, the President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator:“The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.”
Well, that was too much for democrats. Barney Frank called the Bush admin “racist”, Maxine supported ole Franklin Raines, probably because she was getting part of the $90 million he took when he left.
One thing is for sure though, Obama will never be able to say,“We're creating... an ownership society in this country.” On the other hand, maybe he will. The government will own the people.
Oh brother ! You are still blaming Fannie and Freddie ? Let me get this straight....you don't think this mess had ANYTHING to do with the fact that housing value was rising faster than it could be calculated by bank appraisers ? I know a couple of "investors" that would buy a house, slap a coat of paint on it in a week and sell it at a 33% profit in a matter os a few more days. That is called a housing bubble.
Add to that the fact that banks no longer held the mortgages but sold them to Wall Street Banks which turned then into "investment grade securities" to be sold to fools, after they were submitted to the ratings agencies (sometimes numerous times until they were given favorable ratings) then betting against those very investments with firms like AIG and you get what we got....the shaft.
Fannie and Freddie were the tip of the iceburg.....no MUCH smaller than that, but keep your head in the sand, dont spend any time looking at the whole picture. You might learn how the taxpayers, and those folks who took out those loans from Freddie and Fannie were both handed a crap sandwich and made to eat it as the bankers on Wall Street ate filet mignon WE paid for.
HoT

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No this started back in Carter days, where the afirmative plans was to put as many people in a home regardless of the fact most of them could not pay for it. It reached its climax in the early days of Clinton and carried forth in the Bush years.Why would you loan somebody $30,000 to buy a home knowing they could not pay for it. Part of it was the banks. If the person defaulted, they would get the property back at a reduced cost. Their assets would go sky high. Where the problem was the gov. said ok if you do this we will guarantee it but they could not because so many had bee sold. It most all Democrats and I am sure there were a few Liberal republicans. Everyone wants to bring home the bacon so they will get reelected.

Now it is so simple. Just tell the people on subsidies the Republicans are going to take them away and poof-----you have your democratic voter regardless of the surrounding reality.
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This article, a serious treatise about outlawing billionaires, came out on Jan 3. You're just getting around to it? And you call yourself informed?
Let's see. No Billionaires. Means no Microsoft. No Facebook.
Good move.
What...no Billy Boy Gates? Oh No.You mean 47,000 kids from India would be spared from his(US rejected)wonderful polio vaccine program help which has left those kids paralized.
Oh too bad no Billy.
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Rep. Jose Serrano reintroduced a bill to repeal presidential term limit.

Maybe we can just make Obama Emperor. Or King.

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Now it is so simple. Just tell the people on subsidies the Republicans are going to take them away and poof-----you have your democratic voter regardless of the surrounding reality.
Would that work the same for corporate subsidies as well? Or should I expect some backpedaling?
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Welfare recipients take out cash at strip clubs, liquor stores and X-rated shops

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/poor_some_...

"They’re on the dole — and watching the pole.

Welfare recipients took out cash at bars, liquor stores, X-rated video shops, hookah parlors and even strip clubs — where they presumably spent their taxpayer money on lap dances rather than diapers, a Post investigation found."

"The state Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance (OTDA), which oversees the “cash assistance program,” even lists some of these welfare-ready ATMs on its Web site."

Maybe they're looking for jobs in these places.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
OH.Did I mention previously how the people of Iceland dealt with their bankers even when the EU put them(Iceland) on their terror list.
Oh I believe I did.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
Why can't I print money out of thin air?
The new Qe4 from me.It will be to bailout the folks who got f**cked from the previous bailouts and it is there for all Dems and Pubs and Indies.
You think this is funny? It's not any friggin different then the s**t they're doing is it?
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Jan 6, 2013
 
Bore???Bahaha !!!
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This will bore the heck out of some of you and fascinate some of the Others. but, my personal thought was, "What a Bunch of Balogna"! Look how much we're spending for this, and this is the best we can get for the massive amount of our spent Taxpayer dollars? What a Rip-off!
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(" Megatrends, Game-Changers, Black Swans, Techonic Shifts, and a world not that different from 2012.")
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why this outdatd infoso popular

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<quoted text>Oh brother ! You are still blaming Fannie and Freddie ? Let me get this straight....you don't think this mess had ANYTHING to do with the fact that housing value was rising faster than it could be calculated by bank appraisers ? I know a couple of "investors" that would buy a house, slap a coat of paint on it in a week and sell it at a 33% profit in a matter os a few more days. That is called a housing bubble.
Add to that the fact that banks no longer held the mortgages but sold them to Wall Street Banks which turned then into "investment grade securities" to be sold to fools, after they were submitted to the ratings agencies (sometimes numerous times until they were given favorable ratings) then betting against those very investments with firms like AIG and you get what we got....the shaft.
Fannie and Freddie were the tip of the iceburg.....no MUCH smaller than that, but keep your head in the sand, dont spend any time looking at the whole picture. You might learn how the taxpayers, and those folks who took out those loans from Freddie and Fannie were both handed a crap sandwich and made to eat it as the bankers on Wall Street ate filet mignon WE paid for.
Thank you, OT! That's EXACTLY what the Article outlines, in detail, and explains it so that even Morons should be able to understand it, if they read it carefully. It's an extremely complicated Scam , by the Big Wall Street Banks, aided by the Federal Govenment, that still going on and the american People are still being lied to about it and deceived, while the Big wal Street Banks have raked in trillions of Taxpayer dollars...and that's still going on, too.
The Big Wall Street Bankers are truly robbing this Nation and the American Taxpayers of amounts of money that stagger the mind, while being the most inept and incompetent at the business they're in, but absolute geniuses at "robbing America" AND manipulating the Stock Market...and the Federal government is aiding and abetting them and lying to the American People to cover it all up, and this has been going on through Bush's and Obama's Adminstrations because Bush and Paulson set it up with the "Wall Street Bailout", so that we cannot get stop doing it, without destroying the Nation! And yet, we cannot afford as a Nation, to keep doing it , without destroying the Nation, also! We're in a "Catch-22", as a Nation, that we CANNOT get out of, while the Wall Street Bankers get rich beyond any of our Wildest dreams and we , as Individuals and as a Nation, are having our Life's Blood sucked right out of us, by this Enormous "Ponzi-scheme", with no end in sight, until it's ALL gone!
You want to know why we're Trillions of Dollars in debt...well, alot of it went and is going to the Big Wall Street Banks and Bankers and will continue to do so, if something isn't done to change it! But, what can be done NOW, that won't destroy the Nation and all of us? I believe that Nobody knows what to do that the consequences wouldn't be worse than the action, itself. Yet, in the meantime, we're going in a financial hole that will destroy all of us,and the Nation eventually, anyway! But, the Fat Cats on Wall Street are, and will be Wealthy, beyond their Wildest Dreams and couldn't care less. After all, they've designed and are carrying out a Scheme that is robbing the Richest Nation in the world of every penny she has...and convinced this Nation's Leaders to go along with it and to help cover it up!
They may be total Idiots when it comes to Banking , but they are Masterminds at committing Financial Crimes and Manipulation!
READ THE ARTICLE!

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Welfare recipients take out cash at strip clubs, liquor stores and X-rated shops
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/poor_some_...
"They’re on the dole — and watching the pole.
Welfare recipients took out cash at bars, liquor stores, X-rated video shops, hookah parlors and even strip clubs — where they presumably spent their taxpayer money on lap dances rather than diapers, a Post investigation found."
"The state Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance (OTDA), which oversees the “cash assistance program,” even lists some of these welfare-ready ATMs on its Web site."
Maybe they're looking for jobs in these places.
You really need to stop worrying about, and blaming, the Ants at your Picnic, while ignoring the Pack of Wolves are goobling up your food right in front of you, and are going to start eating you alive, at any time!

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