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Tibet is remade by hand of Chinese government

There are 101 comments on the Newsday story from Jul 29, 2007, titled Tibet is remade by hand of Chinese government. In it, Newsday reports that:

ZENGSHOL, Tibet In a massive campaign that recalls the socialist engineering of an earlier era, the Chinese government has relocated 250,000 Tibetans - nearly one-tenth the population - from scattered rural ...

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Loads of crapp

Takoma Park, MD

#1 Jul 30, 2007
Loads of crapp. lol
Andrez Lopez

United States

#2 Jul 30, 2007
Loads of crapp wrote:
Loads of crapp. lol
INDEED IT IS LOADS OF CRAPP.

This is another article written by a supposedly reporter, nameless, with cliche and out-of-date mentality of the Truman Era.

If I can read history from this side of the ocean, so can this nameless guy read history too.

But he choses to think along with the mentality of those of containing China's progress. Truman had the Domino theory and of late all policies about China is aimed at CONTAINMENT. This article is nothing new but a repetition and re-exertion of our Policy of CONTAINMENT.
Andrez Lopez

United States

#3 Jul 30, 2007
Check this guy's vocabulary. Since the 'Invasion'. Relation strained. Crossing into Tibet. Annexation. Destroying monestaries. Imposing consumerism. Dalai Lama flees. Dalai Lama's Nobel Price. Contact between China and Dalai Lama. Bush signs Tibetan Policy Act affirming US support for Tibetan people (forgot to say through the Chinese government) China - Tibet railroad through Himalayas (it is not through Himalayas)

All these show his kind of mentality.

Indeed as you say. Loads of crapp.
Tobias Cooper

AOL

#4 Jul 30, 2007
Interested in the other side of the China, Tibet story?

Please go to http://www.tibet.org/

By: Tibetens and their suppoters.

For: The world to make up their own minds......
Andrez Lopez

United States

#5 Jul 30, 2007
Some Tibetans, including farmers interviewed in the village of Zengshol, say they're happy to be in better quarters than their primitive, ancestral homes of mud brick.

Mcclatchy News
Andrez Lopez

El Paso, TX

#6 Jul 30, 2007
Human Rights Watch's witness say Tibetan peasants must take out loans of several thousand dollars to pay for the houses, which cost an average of $6,000, even though annual rural incomes hover at about $320 in this deeply impoverished region. Farmers who can't repay their bank loans forfeit the right to occupy the homes.--Mcclatchy News --

The result of the large governmental investments in creating out of nothing the infra-structures in Tibet to bring in tourist dollars will certainly increase the peasants annual income.
Andrez Lopez

El Paso, TX

#7 Jul 30, 2007
Some experts say the relocations have lifted up the impoverished peasantry and could bring prosperity."it's created a building boom," said Melvyn Goldstein, a social anthropologist and expert on Tibet at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. "I think it's phenomenally succesful - more than I would've believed." --McClatchy News--
Josh

Derby, KS

#8 Jul 30, 2007
How is it that the United States of America can stand by and watch Tibet be taken over and ruled for almost 60 years by a government hostile to its inhabitants but justify entering Iraq? Oh, that's right Tibet doesn't have oil or invisible weapons of mass distraction.
Andrez Lopez

El Paso, TX

#9 Jul 31, 2007
In February of 1912, the last emperor of Ching dynasty abdicated and the new Republic of China was formed. In the same year under the influence of the British in India, the Tibetans revolted against the central government in Peking, now known as Beijing. Taking the opportunity that the central government was weak and just beginning to get organized to govern, they revolted and fought the central government garrison of troops in Lhasa. If at that time China had the CCP and the new railroad, this separatist movement could not have happened. Dalai Lama "returned' to Tibet from India in July 1912 to take control of Tibet. In 1913, the separatist of Tibet and the separatist of Mongolia signed a treaty between themselves proclaiming mutual recognition and their INDEPENDENCE FROM CHINA. The separatist movement in Tibet was under the influence of the British colonial power in India and the separatist movement in Mongolia was under the influence of Russia. All these manipulation and orchestration was conceived in London and Moscow. China under Chiang Kai Sek's regime could not do anything because the KMT goverment was busy and tied-up fighting the Japanese. China is still fighting the relics of European colonialism and the warring ghost of Japan who wants to resurrect with the blessing of our country. Good Day, Page One.
Cindy

Stanford, CA

#10 Jul 31, 2007
check out his article
Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth (by Michael Parenti)
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
Andrez Lopez

United States

#11 Jul 31, 2007
Cindy wrote:
check out his article
Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth (by Michael Parenti)
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
Thanks for the web. I printed the whole article out for reference for debating in this forum. Good article and it is very thoughtful of you. Thanks. We all need the truth.
Leslie

San Jose, CA

#12 Jul 31, 2007
Here's a good site on Tibet: http://www.rangzen.org/
Andrez Lopez

El Paso, TX

#13 Aug 1, 2007
Leslie wrote:
Here's a good site on Tibet: http://www.rangzen.org/
Thanks Leslie. I check the website. I found out that it belongs to the separatists movement which is no good for the peasants but for the gains of a few top Lamas.
Vegan

AOL

#14 Aug 1, 2007
Andrez Lopez wrote:
Some experts say the relocations have lifted up the impoverished peasantry and could bring prosperity."it's created a building boom," said Melvyn Goldstein, a social anthropologist and expert on Tibet at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. "I think it's phenomenally succesful - more than I would've believed." --McClatchy News--
Tell that so called professor that China is going to invade Ohio. After 60 years of political domination and repression, I want the people to build houses at theior own expense. China wants to establish tourism.
Tobias Cooper

AOL

#15 Aug 1, 2007
In our current era, only China's totalitarian occupation keeps Tibet subdued.Today, mere possession of a photograph of the Dali Lama is a serious crime there. Chinese preservation of Tibetan culture is sanctioned solely as a Disenyesque facade for the economic perks of tourism. All other polcies are dedicated to the eradication of Tibetan identity.The most serious threat facing Tibet's future is Beijing's program of "population transfer."There are now over 7.5 million Chinese in Tibet, compared with a Tibetan population of 6 million.
Tobias Cooper

AOL

#16 Aug 1, 2007
Tibetans are a minority in ther own country,who, in order to get decent jobs or even qualify for a secondary education, must be fluent in Chinese at the expense of learning their native tongue. The draconian days of the Cultural Revolution may be discounted by contemporary Chinese politicos
as"ancient history," but the notion of Tibet as an "autonomous region"is, at best, theoretical and, at worst, cynically absured. There is no autonomy-- not even close. There is no freedom. Subtle, insidious forms of oppression and assimilation are still very much at work.
Tenzin

Degaon, India

#17 Dec 20, 2007
Thank you all for debating on Tibet.I am Tibetan refugee in India and all I can see around in news are American war in Afghan and Iraq, the ongoing ceasefire between Palestinine and Isreal, Beijing olympic, Democracy, Globalization, monoculture, North Korea, Sudan (Darfur). But never on Tibet. Thanks for discussing.

Free Tibet.
chinese

Craigavon, UK

#18 Dec 21, 2007
It is the CPC (Communists Party of China) that is oppressing the Tibetans.

The CPC does not represent all chinese.

I am chinese and I personally respect the Tibetans.
chinese

Craigavon, UK

#19 Dec 21, 2007
Josh wrote:
How is it that the United States of America can stand by and watch Tibet be taken over and ruled for almost 60 years by a government hostile to its inhabitants but justify entering Iraq? Oh, that's right Tibet doesn't have oil or invisible weapons of mass distraction.
It is the CPC (Communists Party of China) that is oppressing the Tibetans.

The CPC do not represent all chinese.

I am chinese and I personally respect the Tibetans.
chinese

Craigavon, UK

#20 Dec 21, 2007
Tobias Cooper wrote:
Tibetans are a minority in ther own country,who, in order to get decent jobs or even qualify for a secondary education, must be fluent in Chinese at the expense of learning their native tongue. The draconian days of the Cultural Revolution may be discounted by contemporary Chinese politicos
as"ancient history," but the notion of Tibet as an "autonomous region"is, at best, theoretical and, at worst, cynically absured. There is no autonomy-- not even close. There is no freedom. Subtle, insidious forms of oppression and assimilation are still very much at work.
It is the CPC (Communists Party of China) that is oppressing the Tibetans.

The CPC does not represent all chinese.

I am chinese and I personally respect the Tibetans.

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