Pafford EMS in Bolivar County

Pafford EMS in Bolivar County

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Joe Blow

Toney, AL

#1 Jun 27, 2008
What is your opinion of the ambulance service in Bolivar County? There has been alot of press about it lately, and I was wondering the communities feelings on this.
Sarah

Toney, AL

#3 Jun 27, 2008
If what is in the papers is true, then it is the lowest of low. Outsiders trying to run a service in an area they know nothing about.

SJN

Since: Apr 08

Merigold

#4 Jun 28, 2008
If you are able to listen to the scanner and hear the ambulance service, it is also the drivers who are slow to respond to dispatch. I really think that lives lost are on their hands...
experience counts

Hesperia, CA

#5 Jul 15, 2008
Sarah wrote:
If what is in the papers is true, then it is the lowest of low. Outsiders trying to run a service in an area they know nothing about.
these"outsiders have years of experience ,they are here to help the community and to raise a family,what happened to give people a chance and southern grace??
anonymous

Cleveland, MS

#6 Jul 28, 2008
Experience? THe lady running the Bolivar County Operation and her husband running the Coahoma County Operation aren't even licensed in Mississippi. I am told they cannot become licensed because they are NOT nationally registered. They are here to try to turn a profit for Pafford. The county should take the service over and MAKE money for its citizens. If there were not money to be made, then Pafford wouldn't be fighting to keep the contract!
Ya Right

Boynton, OK

#7 Aug 11, 2008
It's my understanding that Mississippi is not a national recognized state. What are you doing listening to a scanner? Aren't those prohibited? And isn't that a violation of HIPPA? What makes you think people are dying? Do you have proof? If so then prove it... They are on an emergency clause right now as well in Coahoma county. You can't get an individule license until the state allows it correct?? Pafford has ran in Rogers County in Oklahoma for a few years now and have done an outstanding job. You shouldn't believe everything you hear...
anonymous wrote:
Experience? THe lady running the Bolivar County Operation and her husband running the Coahoma County Operation aren't even licensed in Mississippi. I am told they cannot become licensed because they are NOT nationally registered. They are here to try to turn a profit for Pafford. The county should take the service over and MAKE money for its citizens. If there were not money to be made, then Pafford wouldn't be fighting to keep the contract!
jjj

Cleveland, MS

#9 Sep 2, 2008
If you have any idea about MS you would know that MS has been a Nationally Registry State from the beginning. Pafford needs to wake up and do what is best for the citizens of Bolivar Co. not to pad his pockets by running the bare minimum crews. I agree that he is making lots of money or he would be letting it go.
Ya Right is Ya Wrong

Cleveland, MS

#10 Sep 8, 2008
First off, I called the State Health Dept. and MS is a National Registy State. Second off, what is said on airwaves is perfectly legal to listen to. We live in AMERICA, not Russia. People have died due to Pafford's mistakes (Shaw Police Chief...20 minute delay to respond). According to the news, a contract is signed in Coahoma County, therefore the emergency is over. State Health Dept. will issue a license if you have all the credentials to work in MS (National Registry). I knew none of this before typing this, but my advice is to do your homework before you get online and look stupid.
ya need to think

Toney, AL

#11 Sep 10, 2008
who's to say that anyone is at fault for another's death? if they're dead when you call 911 wouldn't they be dead when the ambulance arrived? if it be 1 minute or thirty dead is dead. delays in response time? would it have made a difference if it hadn't been a delay? who knows so don't pass the blame unless you can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. maybe they were busy. maybe they were chasing a belly ache or a cut finger. or maybe it was an alcoholic or crack addict that calls 4 or 5 times a month looking for a pain shot. argue that they need more ambulances and staff. well sometimes 10 ambulances might not be enough to cover all the calls coming in at once. contrary to popular belief (thanks to the tv) an ambulance is usually not around the corner from your house all the time. realize this too people. the citizens of bolivar county abuse the ambulance service to no end and our units are constantly chasing after patients that are almost at the hospital in a car or who have been sick for three days. if it's been three days and you aren't dead yet--why do you need an ambulance to take you to the hospital? why didn't you get help three days ago? why now? why at 5pm when the dr offices were open all day--oh wait the hospital doesn't charge at the door to see a doctor for a runny nose. lets let the taxpayers pay that bill. after all it's free right. ambulances are for emergencies not a free taxi ride to the hospital because gas is expensive or because you get seen faster if you go in on the ambulance--which is a big myth because they might actually make you wait longer.

the people you talk about are the same people (aside from a few who come from out of town) who will be working if somebody else or the county takes the service over--and most of them are citizens of bolivar county and some of them even worked for the old hospital service. WOW imagine that.

to work in mississippi as an emt or paramedic you HAVE to be a current national registered emt or paramedic and have a state license from the dept of health.

anybody can complain but realize the medics are working in two weeks time more than most people work in a whole month and i think they do a wonderful job of taking care of our folks. mistakes are made in every aspect of human life. you just have to be able to learn from them.

9/11 we will never forget
Mea

Jackson, MS

#12 Nov 10, 2008
Actually the whole system sucks. Pafford is headquartered in either Arkansas or Louisiana, can't remember which. The process is this. You call 911, someone then calls the headquarters, then headquarters calls Pafford in Cleveland to dispatch an ambulance. There is where your time is wasted. And I know this as a fact.
Listen up

Haughton, LA

#13 Nov 18, 2008
Actually, the calls are routed through the Bolivar County Sheriff's office, and they give wrong addresses, information, once they even forgot to connect a call from Rosedale. All of this is on a recorded line with the ambulance companies, it's policy. Everything is recorded, every single wrong address, complaint about a nosebleed/cough/constipation, all of that is recorded. So there is obviously something for yall to think about before you go off half cocked and complain. You want to complain, complain to your sheriff's office that there are delays in calls as well, it would be the same if the county ran the EMS service. Oh, wait a second, then your own people could give the wrong address to the EMS crews directly instead of through someone else. And you don't know anything for a fact until you've visited a dispatch center that handles that many calls. And before you stick your foot in your mouth and say 'do your research', I have worked at a dispatch center, I get it, and you obviously do not.
unknown

Madison, MS

#14 Nov 18, 2008
Yes, you are correct. The calls are routed through the Bolivar County Sheriff's Office and immediately transferred to Pafford EMS in Louisiana. The caller stays on the line and gives the information directly to Pafford. The dispatcher stays on the line to make sure that the caller gets through to Pafford and to assist in directions if necessary which is needed quite often considering that Pafford has no idea whether or not the town of Gunnison is in Mississippi or Arkansas. I guess in your opinion, it would also be the dispatchers fault that the ambulance did not make it in an appropriate time because he was at karaoke at one of the local bars while he was supposed to be stationed in another nearby town.
LAMedic

Haughton, LA

#15 Nov 19, 2008
No one hired is stupid enough to think that Gunnison is in Arkansas. They use maps, just like a sheriff's office and police and everyone else. And the truck crews are held accountable by their supervisor, not dispatch. All EMS (not S.O.) dispatchers can do is give the call information to the trucks as quickly as it comes in to the dispatch center. Contrary to poplular belief, maps that they use in dispatch centers don't have signs that say, 'hey, that empty place where the truck is parked on your map, it's a bar or it's wal-mart, or it's a fried chicken place', or when being given an address 'it's across from the barber shop' and 'down from old mr.smith's house' do not qualify as numerics for a house or a business. Even some locals would not know that. And 'immediately' depends on your definition. I'm just saying, if there is a problem, and I'm not sure there is, that it's everyone's responsibility to do something about it and not let's just load up and lynch the ambulance company.
Mea

Jackson, MS

#16 Nov 20, 2008
Part of the problem is that the county has house numbers listed wrong for some streets. For example, my friend's husband works for the phone company. He has gone to an address in Gunnison & there wasn't a house there. There wasn't even a person by that name who lived in that town. Or another example, he went to John's house at 111 Nowhere St and it was actually Mary's house, but the number was 555 Nowhere St. Hell, GPS has my street address as being 500 yards from where my house actually is!! But as I stated before about calls being routed 5 times before an ambulance is dispatched is true. My friend worked for an ambulance service.
unknown

Boise, ID

#17 Nov 28, 2008
If they had a decent 911 coordinator or whatever she is called there wouldn't be a problem with house numbers.. Can't make sure house numbers are on the right house sitting at Boyle Town Hall or running personal errands and giving people house numbers on the phone... But that is Bolivar county for ya.. Just because her "boyfriend" is on the 911 commission
janb

Jackson, MS

#18 Dec 2, 2008
unknown wrote:
If they had a decent 911 coordinator or whatever she is called there wouldn't be a problem with house numbers.. Can't make sure house numbers are on the right house sitting at Boyle Town Hall or running personal errands and giving people house numbers on the phone... But that is Bolivar county for ya.. Just because her "boyfriend" is on the 911 commission
Now someone may be getting to the root of alot of problems with Bolivar County's Emergency Services. I volunteer in Emergency Service in Bolivar County and this has been a problem since she replaced the man that started the E-911 operations. All she can worry about is her next new truck to drive to the Boyle Town Hall in.
Mea

Jackson, MS

#19 Dec 3, 2008
That may be part of the problem. But it wasn't too long ago that some of the house numbers in Shelby (I think that was one of the towns) were rearranged. I guess that was the city's idea. For example, someone who lived at 222 New St. would have a new house number of 111 New St. I have no idea why they did that! Makes no sense. But this doesn't stem from one problem. It's several problems that add up to make one HUGE problem. What's sad is that it may never get fixed.
sid

Tulsa, OK

#20 Dec 19, 2008
I have worked there before and agree with the slow part. some Medics care about people and really do try to hurry. They do like to hires and keep around the ones that don't care about anyone but themselves. I also know that in Tunica County the contract states that there are to be NO convicted felons working in upper management for that county. If you listen real close to the radio you can hear him and he is the manager over Pafford Control. He has been convicted and is faces charges and sentencing for medicare fraud in Illinois with Mercy Ambulance Service and was arrested in Oklahoma at Mercy Ambulance Service of Oklahoma. He has also worked on a truck in Tunica County (432 to be exact) before the contract was approved and also has hiring and firing abilities in Tunica as well . I'm not real sure that bolivar counties' contract says that but I would almost bet it does... By the way his name is Clay Hobbs. Adam Bostick is aware of his medicare fraud and still allows him to work in Tunica. Adam also allows and demands that Tunica County units are to post in Arkansas for Phillips and Lee county (Pafford service area as well). Cohoma County is also instructed to do this as well. Those counties also post in Mississippi ALL THE TIME and they are not licensed for the state of MS. The state of Arkansas requires that the driver must be a licensed Basic or higher. Not sure if any of you have notice that but if anyone has any suggestions on how to get this information to Scott Steinson or someone even higher up just post it and I'll see it. I'm sure it wouldn't go over very well. I never knew there was a website dedicated to Pafford like this or I would have coughed this info up sooner!!
sid

Tulsa, OK

#21 Dec 19, 2008
Here is the sentencing for Clay Hobbs

KSDK -- The former president of Mercy Regional Health Systems will go to prison for cheating his employees out of their retirement money.

31-year-old Clayton Hobbs was sentenced to 57 months in prison followed by three years supervised release. He was also ordered to pay restitution in the amount of $2,283,118.32.

On August 21, 2008, Hobbs pled guilty to sixteen counts of failing to pay over federal employment taxes. Hobbs, as President and operator of Mercy Regional Health System, Ltd. withheld federal payroll taxes from the employees and failed to pay over $2 million dollars of federal employment taxes to the Internal Revenue Service.

At the sentencing it was indicated that Mercy Regional Health Systems will continue to provide ambulance service to the Franklin County area at present and that efforts will be made
to ensure ongoing ambulance service to the area. Currently Mercy Regional Health Systems, Ltd. is being operated by a receiver appointed by the Court.

Also today, Mercy Regional Health Systems, Mercy
Regional Emergency Health Services and Effingham Advanced Ambulance Service, was sentenced to five years probation and ordered to pay restitution in the amount of $2,283,118.32. The sentence comes after the August guilty plea to one count of false statements relating to healthcare matters, one count of embezzlement from an employee benefit plan, one count of healthcare fraud, and two counts of mail fraud.

From February 2002 through March 2008, Mercy Regional Health Systems made false statements to its employees relating to their healthcare coverage. It also withheld 401(k) contributions
from its employees and failed to forward the contributions to the employees' 401(k) plans. Mercy filed false and fraudulent claims with Medicare and the Illinois Department of Public Health through the Medicaid Program and sent the fraudulent bills to the Illinois Department of Public Health through the use of the United States Postal Service.

The sentencings for both Clayton Hobbs and Mercy require restitution to be paid for the employees' unpaid medical insurance claims in the amount of $127,668.61, unfunded 401(k) contributions in the amount of $1,415.00, unpaid prevailing
wages to employees in the amount of $40,557.03, fraudulent billings to Medicare in the amount of $24,734.26 and Medicaid in the amount of $69,815.50, fraudulent billings to the U.S. Railroad Retirement Medicare in the amount of $10,965.66, and unpaid federal payroll taxes to the IRS in the amount of $2,007,962.26.

KSDK

Since: Dec 08

Forrest City, AR

#22 Dec 26, 2008
Sid, I know how you feel, I've been there and done that so to speak. I also have some of the INFORMATION that you wanted but I'm not going to post it here due to my "current" employment situation and for knowing that this thread is probably being closely watched by some of those involved, plus the fact that it is against this site's terms of service. However feel free to contact me at my "non-company" email [email protected]
sid wrote:
I have worked there before and agree with the slow part. some Medics care about people and really do try to hurry. They do like to hires and keep around the ones that don't care about anyone but themselves. I also know that in Tunica County the contract states that there are to be NO convicted felons working in upper management for that county. If you listen real close to the radio you can hear him and he is the manager over Pafford Control. He has been convicted and is faces charges and sentencing for medicare fraud in Illinois with Mercy Ambulance Service and was arrested in Oklahoma at Mercy Ambulance Service of Oklahoma. He has also worked on a truck in Tunica County (432 to be exact) before the contract was approved and also has hiring and firing abilities in Tunica as well . I'm not real sure that bolivar counties' contract says that but I would almost bet it does... By the way his name is Clay Hobbs. Adam Bostick is aware of his medicare fraud and still allows him to work in Tunica. Adam also allows and demands that Tunica County units are to post in Arkansas for Phillips and Lee county (Pafford service area as well). Cohoma County is also instructed to do this as well. Those counties also post in Mississippi ALL THE TIME and they are not licensed for the state of MS. The state of Arkansas requires that the driver must be a licensed Basic or higher. Not sure if any of you have notice that but if anyone has any suggestions on how to get this information to Scott Steinson or someone even higher up just post it and I'll see it. I'm sure it wouldn't go over very well. I never knew there was a website dedicated to Pafford like this or I would have coughed this info up sooner!!

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