SummerGrove is no longer a jewel but a "COW PATTY"

[Whoop Glory]

It’s a sad commentary when board members, past and present, feel the need to “protect” the association’s pm and management company. My first question is why do they feel they need to protect anyone?
If the job is not being performed to standards and their best is mediocre at best we should get rid of them, not protect them.
As with any contract I hope there is a cancellation/termination clause executable by either party. On the other hand Cindy’s group renewed the contract so I’m sure we are locked in solid for two years.
There have been numerous problems with cma and the pm over the years. Why do we continue to allow incompetent people to run this association? Do any of you realize things could be SO much different?
I’m certain either or both of the Hennings read this blog and they really should be ashamed.

[Donnie]

I have purchased 3 homes in summergrove to rent as section 8.The homeowners cannot stop me because section 8 is a federally mandated program.IF the board tries to stop me the federal government will sue them under race discrimination laws, you cannot discriminate against housing. They have no choice.

[Wikki]

Donnie wrote:

I have purchased 3 homes in summergrove to rent as section 8.The homeowners cannot stop me because section 8 is a federally mandated program.IF the board tries to stop me the federal government will sue them under race discrimination laws, you cannot discriminate against housing. They have no choice.

That's great for you. So, what are you squawking about? Did you get any violation letters? Your point is?

[Whoop Glory]

Sec 8 Dude - Why are you concerned the board will do anything? Haven’t you read this blog? We cannot get the board to enforce our very own basic rules. Do you really think they will bother you?

When your Sec. 8 properties fall into disrepair the board still won’t bother you. They may send you a few letters. If chose to ignore them they will too. When your Sec. 8 tenants leave their non-working vehicles on the street or parked in the grass, no one will bother you. When neighbors complain to the POA about your Sec. 8 tenants and how they are a menace to the community, the board will look the other way. When your Sec. 8 tenants show up at the pools without current credentials just remind them to complain to the pm and the pm will give in and allow them full access to any and all amenities. When you or your Sec. 8 tenants fail to pay the annual assessments for each of the 3 properties the board may blink. On second thought they may just go ahead and right off that debt ahead of time as a courtesy. Be sure to inform your Sec. 8 tenants to run for a position on the board. They will be welcomed with open arms. Since your Sec. 8 tenants are conditioned to collecting freebies, they should appreciate you telling them they can become a SG pool monitor and be paid tax free. They may not even need to be a homeowner, resident or be current on their association dues.

You and your Sec. 8 tenants have found a very conforming community here in SG. Too bad Cindy is no longer on the board; she would have had a ribbon cutting ceremony in support of your achievement and even baked you a delicious cake.

P.S. Did the social chair facilitate this deal for you?

[Fair and SQUARE]

WG you are wrong on so many accounts above. Are you really privy to what exactly is sent to residents/homeowners or showing credentials to access our pools, etc.? REALLY? Some of your observations, may be true. I think at times you get yourself worked up a bit. Check with your Doc for some meds to help mellow you out a bit. Sometimes you go overboard,(this will surely have you typing about property values, etc. as you have done in the past. blah blah blah...just copy and paste, it will save you time.) Since you are so unhappy with the association, why not put your house up for sale this spring and move before YOU have a section 8 house beside you.(Sometimes that is NOT such a bad thing.) Maybe you need a slice of delicious cake and a cup of coffee.

[Legal Zoom]

Chuck, I mean, Whoop- thought you were going to sue. What happened to all that? Guess it was just more hot air, like your posts here.

[Fair and SQUARE]

Whoop Glory wrote:

It’s a sad commentary when board members, past and present, feel the need to “protect” the association’s pm and management company. My first question is why do they feel they need to protect anyone?
If the job is not being performed to standards and their best is mediocre at best we should get rid of them, not protect them.
As with any contract I hope there is a cancellation/termination clause executable by either party. On the other hand Cindy’s group renewed the contract so I’m sure we are locked in solid for two years.
There have been numerous problems with cma and the pm over the years. Why do we continue to allow incompetent people to run this association? Do any of you realize things could be SO much different?
I’m certain either or both of the Hennings read this blog and they really should be ashamed.

WG, this is an example of you going off the deep end. Look at your last sentence. You talk about the past board/present, using names. OK..but to type obviously residents/homeowners names? If you wish to comment and list homeowners names, then TYPE your name after your post. Fair is fair. Then again, that's not quite your MO.

[Whoop Glory]

Fair and SQUARE wrote:

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WG, this is an example of you going off the deep end. Look at your last sentence. You talk about the past board/present, using names. OK..but to type obviously residents/homeowners names? If you wish to comment and list homeowners names, then TYPE your name after your post. Fair is fair. Then again, that's not quite your MO.

You really are clueless. Where did I list homeowner/resident names??? Are you talking about the Hennings comment?? LOL

Please, get down off your pedestal. The Hennings (father and son) own cma. cma is SummerGrove's property management company. Do your homework. Know what's going on. Get a mitt and get in the game.

[Whoop Glory]

You referred to me as Chuck. I don’t know Chuck so should I be offended or flattered? I’m guessing my comment about the social chair prompted your response.

I don’t quite understand your comment about credentials. I was just mentioning the fact that if one of the Sec. 8 tenants showed up at a pool and didn’t have the appropriate swipe card to gain entrance then all they would have to do was complain to the pm and the pm would waive the process and grant them entrance. Everyone else would have to wait to get their assessments up to date and then they would gain entrance to the pools. Basically a double standard. The exceptions seem to be the rules here.

Why don’t I move from SG you ask? Easier said than done. Ask the social chair. He seems to have a large number of homes on the market for many months.

Why should I move because idiots run the association? This was our retirement home. It’s turned into an insane asylum. You must be satisfied with the association. You must be satisfied with poor decisions, poor management, poor fiscal management, and lack of commonsense. You must advocate residents being bullied by the board. You must enjoy paying higher assessments due to idiot decisions. You must enjoy watching the board treat residents like second class citizens simply because something was questioned. You must support board members with personal agendas. You must support a pm with poor time management habits and poor work ethic. You must be the social chair.

[Fair and SQUARE]

Whoop Glory wrote:

<quoted text>You really are clueless. Where did I list homeowner/resident names??? Are you talking about the Hennings comment?? LOL
Please, get down off your pedestal. The Hennings (father and son) own cma. cma is SummerGrove's property management company. Do your homework. Know what's going on. Get a mitt and get in the game.

Thanks for clearing this one up. I will get my mitt now.

[fore]

I guess I should be thankful for my HOA. Ok, but I don't have to like it! Thanks for allowing me to see the other side.

Whoop Glory wrote:

Our board requires the pm to ride the property once a month. A lot of good that does. Then a series of poorly worded letters go out if the pm is pressured. Then everything is sucked into the proverbial black hole and nothing ever happens unless someone challenges the pm or board.

There is too much work that goes into making people do their job.

[Skeptic]

Whoop Glory wrote:

I was just mentioning the fact that if one of the Sec. 8 tenants showed up at a pool and didn’t have the appropriate swipe card to gain entrance then all they would have to do was complain to the pm and the pm would waive the process and grant them entrance.

Fact? Are basing this on actual experience or are you speculating on a worst-case scenario? If this has actually happened, please cite names and dates.

[Fair and SQUARE]

Skeptic wrote:

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Fact? Are basing this on actual experience or are you speculating on a worst-case scenario? If this has actually happened, please cite names and dates.

Good try, you will not get the information. Probably just "hear say" and we know what that means. Will not hold up in my court.

[Donnie]

if a section 8 tenant shows up at the pool first thing , I would let them in if you do not want to be on national tv.whats it going to hurt other than some afrosheen in the pool? if a section 8 tenant shows up and their card doesnot work, they are going to jump over the fence.Do you want jesse jackson and the fake reverend al sharptongue at your apartment because some black child wasnt allowed to drown in your pool?

[Skeptic]

Donnie wrote:

whats it going to hurt other than some afrosheen in the pool?

Are you really a racist or do you just play one on this website? Section 8 tenants come in all ethnicities.

[Fair and SQUARE]

Donnie wrote:

if a section 8 tenant shows up at the pool first thing , I would let them in if you do not want to be on national tv.whats it going to hurt other than some afrosheen in the pool? if a section 8 tenant shows up and their card doesnot work, they are going to jump over the fence.Do you want jesse jackson and the fake reverend al sharptongue at your apartment because some black child wasnt allowed to drown in your pool?

Racist? Even that word is too good for little Donnie. Little Donnie, how about listing your name and address for us? Then make all the comments you care to. Don't be a coward and hide behind your computer screen. Futhermore, no more responses from me to you. I would suggest all of us on this forum just simply not engage with Little Donnie. Eventually he/she will go away.

[Legal Zoom]

Now I know you are full of it, not that there was much doubt before. You know about the Hennings, you "know" about EVERTHING else and now you are denying you are Chuckie boy or even knowing him. It's one or the other--this denial of both exposes you, honey. You should have known better--you're so smart, right?

[Smokescreen]

Donnie and Debbie must be married. Look at Debbie's other posts on Topix. Go away.

[Whoop Glory]

Wow, there has been a lot of activity lately. I’ll address each independently. For Legal Zoom, that means one at a time.

[Whoop Glory]

Skeptic wrote:

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Fact? Are basing this on actual experience or are you speculating on a worst-case scenario? If this has actually happened, please cite names and dates.

If you want names and dates cited the next time you are at the Town Hall walk up stairs and ask.