SummerGrove is no longer a jewel but ...
Whoop Glory

Atlanta, GA

#674 Jan 8, 2013
Smokescreen wrote:
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Yes, I agree something positive may be happening. As far as the 3 musketeers, isn't it our PM job to report trash bins, etc. and all other violations in SG?(I think I already know your answer.)
Thats a big YES! The previous board granted the pm a reduction in duties. They claimed she was overworked. They claimed her time was better spent sitting behind a desk inside the TownHall. People that know her know she spends most of her time wasting time. She has very poor time management skills. Between Cindy, Hunter, Cindy, Hunter and Cindy, Jim, Harley, Hunter, Scott and who knows who else, the pm spends most of her time chatting and gossiping. That should boil the social chair’s blood.
Where does one find a property manager that does not spend time on the property? SummerGrove!!
If the pm likes what she sees when she is out and about on the property, we have a problem. Someone needs to re-establish community standards because they have been thrown out the window over the past few years.
The pm needs to go. We can do better. We need someone who knows how to manage a property and not someone more interested in chatting and gossiping. The pm does a fine job for her friends and a lousy job for the rest of us!
Deep Throat

Newnan, GA

#675 Jan 11, 2013
The Creeps just can't seem to give up their power. Thought they'd be in La Casa Pacifica by now, but they turned up last night.

M. Felt
Whoop Glory

Atlanta, GA

#678 Jan 14, 2013
The more I watch what happens in this community and the more I watch those running it the more sickened, the more repulsed and the angrier I become. It appears as though we have learned nothing over the past two years. We might as well have placed Cindy and her band of flunkies back on the board, even though they didn’t seek re-election. The goal of SummerGrove in this last election should have been to remove and get rid of the irresponsibleness and influence of Cindy Bruce. Her lack of quality leadership, lack of vision and lack of knowledge seems to permeate the walls, carpet, paint, water and oxygen of the Town Hall. Folks, do you truly not see the effects and long term damage her ideas and irresponsible actions have on this community? Do you knot care? Like many I thought the “new” board would see how devastating Cindy Bruce’s actions were and would want to do a 180 degree turn. I was dead wrong. We have a monumental problem and NO ONE is willing to address the 500 pound elephant in the room. The pm is the other problem as I see it. It is clearly obvious after two months now that we are headed down the same road which was laid out by Cindy Bruce, Jim Nagrelli and Harley Vaughn. Does anyone on this board have the guts or intestinal fortitude to make a stand for what needs to be done? Or is everyone content with the status quos? If the answer to that question is yes, then we have made yet another horrible decision putting these Cindy sympathizers on the board. Folks, her actions, or severe lack of, at the annual meeting should have been enough to convince you that her motives are not in the best interest of SummerGrove. Then on the other hand, the pm should have intervened when the board didn’t to stop the public release of confidential homeowner information. One of the pm’s jobs is to protect such information and to guide the board with legal or potentially legal issues. The pm sat there and did nothing. This is only one example of the pm’s gross lack of integrity and decision making abilities.
The handwriting is all over the Town Hall walls. There is a severe lack of this and a severe lack of that and we apparently have a group of seven people that feel “lacking” is an acceptable trait as long as their personal agendas are addressed. What we need are people with a brain that are not afraid to say NO. We need people that are not afraid to change the course the former board set and go in another direction. One of those “other directions” should be a new property management company and pm. Why do you think Cindy Bruce wanted to extend the property management’s contract before she left when it wasn’t her decision to do so? She made it her job because she knew the problems that existed and she knew anyone that came in behind her with an ounce of intelligence would see the problems and would attempt to move the contract. She did it to protect the pm knowing the massive incompetence that exists. It appears her plan will work because this board is unable to do what’s best for SummerGrove and forge a different path.
Whoop Glory

Atlanta, GA

#679 Jan 21, 2013
I’m sure the rest of you received the same blast email that I did from our beloved board and covenant group. The covenant group is mainly comprised of the three musketeers or three stooges (depending I guess if you are a recipient of a letter or not). I found the email to be consistent with old board rationale and this is where I have a problem. We know (based on their own admission) that in the past Cindy Bruce and the pm handpicked which violators actually received violation letters. This isn’t a smart practice, but then again none of these people were ever accused of being very smart either. It appears this new group of Einsteins is attempting to flex their muscle. For those of us over a certain age this meaningless flexing reminds me a lot of Alfalfa flexing his puny physique trying to impress the girl of his dreams. I recall one episode where he flexed so hard he hurt himself. The irony here is the board, pm and the three ladies just may find themselves in a similar situation.
My statements here are not verbatim of the email I received, so there is no need to post comments on how I got the verbiage incorrect. The email stated please remove and store any outdoor Christmas and December holiday décor, as violation letters can be sent if seasonal items are not removed in a timely manner. First – define timely manner! What is timely in the eyes of you people? Second – where is the time frame for removing such items written? Thirdly – who decides what is considered Christmas/December décor?
Faded paint – are you serious? I guess you people need to visit Wild Bill Eaton’s house on this one. Again – define faded. At what point does paint fade? Who determines if it’s faded? Are you going to show up at my house with a fresh paint swatch to compare? Please take a short trip over to the Townhomes and tell Jim Nagrelli they need painting. Hasn’t it been a few years? Take a look at he monuments…faded! Take a look at the pool houses…faded! Is there really a need to receive a modification approval to change anything??? Does it matter??? The modification group simple says yes to anything and everything. There’s proof of that. Remember the prison-bar fence?
Mildew/Mold -…….there are many homes with excessive mildew, mold and red clay stains. Again – define excessive. Where is excessive defined in writing? Red clay stains on the foundation means there’s no mulch. Isn’t it a violation to not have fresh/sufficient mulch around the foundation? What about those who have decided to put white rock as mulch (by the way is that allowed)? Are you sending letters to them because their white rock is now green or dark brown???
We all know this board, previous boards and possibly future boards will DO NOTHING!!!! There has been NO enforcement for a very, very long time and now you send this BS out? Cindy Bruce and her morons along with the pm should have been standing up for covenant violations a long time ago. You people have let way too much go for far too long. The exception has become the rule. The quarter size snowball has now become an avalanche. How do you stop it? You have allowed way too many homeowners get by with a lot and all of a sudden you want to flex your muscles? Too late.
You people cry and scream about covenants, violations and community standards. What standards? You and your predecessors have allowed our community to slide to the point the “cow patty” statement fits just like Slummergrove. By the way the covenant threesome needs to remember to paint the rock at the Townhomes when it begins to fade!!
Whoop Glory

Atlanta, GA

#680 Jan 22, 2013
While I’m on the topic of covenants enforcement, or lack of, and lack of written community standards what is up with signs in yards? According to our covenants only two types of signs are allowed and they are for sale signs and political signs. But during my travels I see handyman signs, roofing signs, signs for luminaries, signs to sell mattresses, school spirit signs, signs advertising home businesses, year- round political signs, college athletic signs, professional athletic signs and the list goes on. There is a reason Pathways specifically singled out the use of signs (except for sale and political) as prohibited yard art. Unlike the vast majority of our covenants signs are specifically addressed. Two types of signs are allowed. So why are all these other signs allowed? Why don’t the covenant three musketeers address this issue? You want me to paint, pressure wash and remove my holiday décor to fit your personal taste but it’s okay for a political sign and billy bob’s express renovation signs to remain in one’s yard indefinitely?? Come on.

Why do I get a blast email telling me to remove holiday décor when there is no written standard establishing a point to take it down? Why do I get a blast email telling me to pressure wash the mold/mildew on my house when there is no standard establishing the amount of mold/mildew my house is allowed to have? Why do I get a blast email telling me to paint my house when there is no standard establishing the point when my house is considered faded? But there is a standard that clearly establishes only two types of yard signs and we do nothing to enforce it? One of the few covenants that are in black and white and we do nothing. All these other covenants are so vague and you people crawl all over them to stick it to us. You seem to make the rules up as you go along. It’s almost like the rules get established based on who shows up to the monthly meetings and the rules change as people change. Or the pm sets the rules in her head, nothing is consistent, nothing is made public and nothing is enforced until it becomes a problem. By then it’s too late to correct the problem.

We need people that are not afraid to ruffle feathers and enforce the enforceable. You all need to stop the discriminatory practice of picking and choosing which covenants to enforce and which residents receives letters and start treating everything and everyone equal.

You have to break a few eggs to make a cake…don’t you Cindy Bruce?
Land crawler

Eastaboga, AL

#681 Jan 22, 2013
Anyone who buys into a neighborhood with a HOA is foolish. Then to complain of the rules,unfairness,politics etc......is nuts. That's like moving to southern Florida then complaining all the time about it being hot.
Whoop Glory

Atlanta, GA

#683 Jan 23, 2013
That's good. Highjack my user name and post crap. Should we expect more from you? Now who's the one hiding?

Anyone that has read my previous posts knows I'm not one to say I'm wrong.
Whoop Glory

Atlanta, GA

#684 Jan 23, 2013
By the way the simple fact that I own a home in SummerGrove is what gives me the right to complain, be critical, run my mouth, be a negative mouthpiece, dislike policies, dislike the people running the community and say what I want about SumemrGrove.

I go to meetings. It’s the same old crap each time. Going to a meeting is not a prerequisite for anything. Going to a meeting does not prove anything. It doesn’t establish or take away one’s rights as a SummerGrove homeowner. A homeowner’s rights are not dependent one attending a meeting.
What does going to a meeting prove??? How many times in the last two years did upset homeowners speak out at a MEETING? What was accomplished at that meeting? Cindy and her band of idiots still did stupid stuff. SummerGrove’s budget expanded and our fees increased simply to satisfy those few on the board. It’s the incompetent folks running this place that are the problem and guess what they are the ones running the meeting too. So the statement I never go to a meeting is actually quite juvenile.

So the person impersonating me must have taken exception to my comments about covenants. Hmmm, I mentioned the three stooges a few times too. It’s all a farcical.
Stooge

Newnan, GA

#686 Jan 23, 2013
Looks like Whoop Glorified might be the long lost cousin of "Shemp"....... just saying.
Whoop Glory

United States

#687 Jan 24, 2013
Imitation is the greatest form of admiration!
Whoop Glory

Newnan, GA

#688 Jan 24, 2013
I am a narcissist. I am a narcissist. I am a narcissist.
SummerGrove Proud

Newnan, GA

#689 Jan 24, 2013
Why is WGlory still bashing on our past board members? Our community will continue to thrive. We have newly elected members, we should give them a chance to continue on the path to keep SG beautiful. We are over 11 years old, we do need to continue to take care of our personal property as we do our common grounds. Stop complaining all the time. Be proud! I am.
Whoop Glory

United States

#690 Jan 24, 2013
SummerGrove Proud wrote:
Why is WGlory still bashing on our past board members? Our community will continue to thrive. We have newly elected members, we should give them a chance to continue on the path to keep SG beautiful. We are over 11 years old, we do need to continue to take care of our personal property as we do our common grounds. Stop complaining all the time. Be proud! I am.
I bash because I can! Continue on the path? My friend if you knew the true path those folks had in store, you would walk the other way. Do my complaints give the impression I'm not proud? You have completely missed the boat. Don't misinterpret my complaints.
Whoop Glory

Newnan, GA

#691 Jan 24, 2013
I am a talking head. I am a talking head. I am a talking head.
Smokescreen

Newnan, GA

#692 Jan 24, 2013
Looks like someone is off their meds. Where is Elmer when we need him, as a distraction, that is.
Whoop Glory

Newnan, GA

#693 Jan 25, 2013
I am of unsound mind. Pray for me.
debbie

Newnan, GA

#694 Jan 25, 2013
whatever made any of you thinh summergrove was a jewel to start with all you had to do as look at the constrtion of all those houses to see it wasnt that much
Skeptic

Newnan, GA

#695 Jan 25, 2013
Whoop Glory wrote:
<quoted text> if you knew the true path those folks had in store, you would walk the other way.
Care to enlighten us?
Sour Grapes

Newnan, GA

#696 Jan 26, 2013
Skeptic, WG just wants to complain about every Board, each year. The real question would be, why doesn't WG run for a position or volunteer on a committee. Or, could it be WG has previously served on the board or past committee?
Deep Throat

Newnan, GA

#697 Jan 26, 2013
Does Whoop Glory remind you of the political drama staring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts? A congressman and his covert dealings have some unforeseen and long-reaching effects.

It's not "All the President's Men."

M. Felt

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