Abuse, confinement alleged in Sciento...

Abuse, confinement alleged in Scientology suit

There are 10 comments on the The Beaumont Enterprise story from Feb 9, 2012, titled Abuse, confinement alleged in Scientology suit. In it, The Beaumont Enterprise reports that:

In a closely watched case, the inner-workings of the Church of Scientology were laid bare Thursday in state district court as a former top church official testified about serial abuse and the enforced confinement of church officials.

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Hometown Resident

Addison, TX

#1 Feb 9, 2012
Scientology has taken over the downtown area.It's
like there own campus that any long time resident
never goes downtown,because there are no businesses
entertainment,clubs or resturants.It's Dead!!!!!!!!
Clearwater used to be Sparkling Clearwater,now it is very depressing.
They have purchased Hotels,Motels,Apartments to house thier followers and do not socalize with any
others but themselves.I find it apalling.Claimong the group is a chruch they donot pay taxes on the properties.They have taken what once was beautiful
and totally florida to the likes of concentration camp.I want Clearwater to sparkle once more.It's sad.
Not Raw Meat

Tampa, FL

#2 Feb 10, 2012
I agree with you, Hometown Resident. I just drove through Clearwater last week, coming down the intercoastal from the north from the bustling, pretty, active, fun communities of Tarpon Springs and Dunedin into Clearwater and right at the border, I was suddenly shocked at the boarded up shops, the weeds growing through sidewalks, the rubble, and some rather homeless-looking men hanging around on the north coast area of Clearwater. It was a bad as any depressed inner city anywhere in the U.S.--maybe worse. Then suddenly I was in front of the Super Power Building and there were all of these uniformed men and women walking quickly from here to there. Their attire reminded me of Catholic school uniforms, the men all had the same haircuts and the women were all looking down as they hurried down the street. Everyone had on the same black slacks and tan or blue shirts and everyone was carrying styrofoam coffee cups and folders. After my long drive to Clearwater, I wanted to stop there at a cafe or restaurant and shop in a few boutiques or pop into a museum or art gallery, but there was nothing NOTHING to do and no public parking. Just giant cement buildings and streets with no trees or grass. Very Orwellian and rather creepy--and I felt as though I was an unwelcome visitor to a military camp. I hurriedly drove out of there back into the real world where I enjoyed a fun-filled visit to St. Petersburg and Tampa, eating in restaurants, going to museums and spending lots of money in shops! How sad that there is no money in the form of property taxes that is coming in from those huge blocks of Scientology buildings so that Clearwater can experience economic recovery.
Not Raw Meat

Tampa, FL

#3 Feb 10, 2012
Sorry I didn't mean to wander away from the topic of this forum! Yes, it seems that the well-oiled machine of scientology lawyers have realized (duh!) that the truth or for them, a lot of "black PR", has surfaced as a result of Ms. Cook's Texas trial and they have decided to quit while they are ahead (or behind, as it were). What a huge foot bullet for $cientology! This all is beginning to look like a really good Grisham novel and/or movie!

“Honorary Squirrel Buster”

Since: Apr 07

Tulsa, OK

#4 Feb 10, 2012
You'll have to get some pictures next time you're in Clearwater NRM. I've been wanting to visit for years but never seem to get around to it.

Bondi, Australia

#5 Feb 10, 2012
Did someone say RPF?


Bowling Green, KY

#6 Feb 10, 2012
This is so sad! We are considering moving to Clearwater. Is it really that bad? What about the other areas?
Not Raw Meat

Tampa, FL

#7 Feb 11, 2012
My first impression of Clearwater, and a brief one at that, is that it is a place of dramatic contrasts, although I couldn't find a "wealthy" or "healthy" suburb. The beaches are beautiful, of course, but not really community-oriented, mostly hotels and tourists. Then the contrast that I described is from run-down and abandoned to struggling businesses and foreclosed homes to the fortress-like kingdom of scientology, downtown. There are blocks and blocks of apartment buildings used to house scientologists, I suppose, but I saw no eateries, grocery stores, etc. nearby. Highway 60E, driving in straight from Tampa airport is a crazy mess of stoplights, millions of signs, and so-so businessness. You really should look north of there in the smaller coastal communities of Dunedin, Tarpon Springs, Holiday, Hudson, as there are some great homes at great prices and a real feeling of a "whole village" that can help to raise you and your family! Also, go south of there, too.
P.S. check the statistics--I think that the unemployment rate of Clearwater, FL is over the FL average of 10%.
Not Raw Meat

Tampa, FL

#8 Feb 11, 2012
But back to the topic at hand! I found this last Texas trial very interesting. The outcome demonstrates, perhaps, a new obstacle to the well-oiled machine of scientology lawyers. IF a person decides to "blow" scientology, and IF that person decides to tell the truth about what is really going on inside scientology and IF scientology sues the person and takes them to court, THEN that person WILL spill the beans and tell all for the world to know. Enter, the INTERNET! Instant sharing of immediate news and information sent through the air to everyone everywhere! Amazing that something so invisible can damage scientology so profoundly. I wonder if scientology will think twice about slapping lawsuits on people now. The times, they are a changin'. Scientology's weapon of secrecy and coverup versus the internet's weapon of excellent reporting and immediate transparency. Internet wins, hands down!

Bowling Green, KY

#9 Feb 11, 2012
Thanks so much for the info! I really appreciate it. We are just now in the beginning stages, so still kicking different cities around. We found Clearwater on a list of top 20 cities in the usa for raising a family. How crazy is that!? Thanks again for the suggestions.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#10 Feb 29, 2012
I can't speak to the Scientologists' influence but what you describe is true over most of Florida. Move away from the beaches and the communities directly west are usually in poor condition. Check out West Cocoa, West Palm Beach (not Palm Beach), Riviera Beach, the western reaches of Ft. Pierce, Orange Park near JAX, Melbourne, Daytona (actually ALL of Daytona is a dump)... it goes on. As for Scientology, it's a cult. Any "religious" organization that doesn't warmly welcome outsiders and that is cloaked in secrecy is a cult (see also Freemasonry and the LDS church).
Not Raw Meat wrote:
My first impression of Clearwater, and a brief one at that, is that it is a place of dramatic contrasts, although I couldn't find a "wealthy" or "healthy" suburb. The beaches are beautiful, of course, but not really community-oriented, mostly hotels and tourists. Then the contrast that I described is from run-down and abandoned to struggling businesses and foreclosed homes.

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