Ex-Bison

Olanta, PA

#23 Nov 14, 2009
volleyball is a very fast-paced game. it requires each player to anticipate, make a decision, communicate the decision and execute the decision. in my opinion, all the coaching should be done in practices. games are won in practices. on the court, you don't really have time to look to the sideline for instruction. if you have to, in most cases it is too late.

while a player at clearfield, my head coach took detailed stats - both team and individual. her main focus was "dropped balls." our game performances determined our practices. i recall our first game we had 23 dropped balls, which resulted in 23 suicides. we never had 23 dropped balls again. in practice, if we properly executed and scored, it eliminated a suicide from the count. however, if we failed to execute, it added another to the count. we had to take responsibility for our mistakes.

in my eyes, the coach should still remain active during games and offer words of encouragement. he/she should be vocal and supportive. any instruction should be done in the huddle during timeouts ... if you're screaming and yelling instruction to a player on the court, it allows the opposition to better anticipate ... it's not always beneficial for a team to have a coach who screams, yells and rants and raves the entire game.

i don't know how the coaching staff structures the current practices. i haven't been to a game in years but did watch the video...

has anyone asked any of the girls their thoughts of the practice structure and coaching? how do they react to the current coaching? do they respond well, or otherwise?
just_a_voice

State College, PA

#25 Nov 16, 2009
Concerned Parent wrote:
<quoted text>I've seen this video and was at that game. It was the first time of playing Curwensville. Why is one of the middle schools gym teachers coaching for Curwensville instead of Clearfield. I was told she was not needed. Is this true?
She declined because coach wouldn't let her be head coach so she went to curwensville. I am a parent of a volleyball player and I was so disgusted by the coaching. I think he needs to step aside and let someone come in that knows what they are doing. I would love to get him thrown out of the school but I am not sure how to do it. I was told to start a petition but I think that was done last year and it didn't work. So any info to how to get this man off the coaching staff would be greatly appreciated.
just_a_voice

State College, PA

#26 Nov 16, 2009
Ex-Bison wrote:
volleyball is a very fast-paced game. it requires each player to anticipate, make a decision, communicate the decision and execute the decision. in my opinion, all the coaching should be done in practices. games are won in practices. on the court, you don't really have time to look to the sideline for instruction. if you have to, in most cases it is too late.
while a player at clearfield, my head coach took detailed stats - both team and individual. her main focus was "dropped balls." our game performances determined our practices. i recall our first game we had 23 dropped balls, which resulted in 23 suicides. we never had 23 dropped balls again. in practice, if we properly executed and scored, it eliminated a suicide from the count. however, if we failed to execute, it added another to the count. we had to take responsibility for our mistakes.
in my eyes, the coach should still remain active during games and offer words of encouragement. he/she should be vocal and supportive. any instruction should be done in the huddle during timeouts ... if you're screaming and yelling instruction to a player on the court, it allows the opposition to better anticipate ... it's not always beneficial for a team to have a coach who screams, yells and rants and raves the entire game.
i don't know how the coaching staff structures the current practices. i haven't been to a game in years but did watch the video...
has anyone asked any of the girls their thoughts of the practice structure and coaching? how do they react to the current coaching? do they respond well, or otherwise?
Yeah they all say he sucks and the seniors pretty much ran the practices..
Jeff

Clearfield, PA

#27 Dec 15, 2009
Coach Peters has finally resigned! Too bad they let him take the girls to a 0-18 record.
Vollleyball Mom

Woodland, PA

#28 Dec 16, 2009
This is good news! Does this mean that all girls are going to get court playing time or is it going to stay the same. All the girls have potential but if the same ones are gonna be selected AGAIN the score will stay the same. The girls need to be rotated to see everyones playing skills in a game. Jeff I have seen you helping and coaching the girls and you do a wonderful job but this format has to change. I know there was alot of girls this past season but it still can be done. These girls were dedicated to practices during the summer and volleyball season. These girls would come to the games even though they knew there was no chance of playing time! I know that it is going to be hard to get a winning season because of the girls having Peters as a coach for 3+ years and I sure hope Mikesell doesn't step in! He who doesn't "micromanage the teams" isn't worthy of the position. I'm not sure what an athletice director does but this one needs more training.
Jeff

Clearfield, PA

#29 Dec 16, 2009
I'm sorry but I am not the Jeff that helps out on the team, that is a different person.

Just want to make that clear so he doesn't get the blame for anything I have written here.
Former Coach

Bellefonte, PA

#30 Dec 29, 2009
Ex-Bison--you hit the nail on the head with your comments... I thank you for having a level head--one of the only ones I've seen on here.

As a former coach and having a spouse who is a coach, I can honestly say that in order for a team to thrive, everyone has to be on the SAME TEAM, which means players, coaches and parents have to be on that team---not parents yelling at coaches and telling them how to do their job. Sometimes you have a good team and well-rounded athletes, and sometimes you don't. Whether you have old uniforms, only 20 fans in attendance or only 12 on the team, it doesn't matter. You've got to play with the cards you're dealt. I remember one season only losing two games and the next season not winning any---same coaches, most of the same kids, but those few key players left due to graduation. Did they 'make' the team--not necessarily, but you have to have that chemistry and the athleticism and again---SUPPORT. Some players work well together, sometimes you have a team full of athletes, and sometimes you don't.

If the parents are yelling and screaming at the coaches, what kind of a role model are they??? I know if I were a student and my parent had done that--I would have been MORTIFIED to have my parents act like some I've witnessed. Coaching is not a job one gets into for any reason, other than love of the game. And before any of you parents/fans rant and rave, I beg you to coach a season, and see just how "easy" it really is, especially given the lack of support this coach has obviously had. "Walk a mile in their shoes."
Jeff

Cumberland, MD

#31 Dec 29, 2009
Where are you reading that the parents are always "yelling and screaming" at the coaches?" That sort of thing isn't tolerated at the games by the officials so I don't understand why you are assuming that was some major problem. The only time the coaches were confronted was when the assistant coach called the girls "Lazy bitches." I attended almost every game both home and away and never witnessed the sort of behavior you are describing.

You have no clue as to what support this coach had during the three years he was "coaching" and even though you coached sometime, somewhere, you obviously have no idea about this particular situation.

As for any of us "coaching a season", you need not beg us, as was already written, some asked to do just that and were turned down. Please know (or read about)the situation before you make such comments.

Finally, this coach wasn't coaching for "the love of the game" beause he really had no knowldege of the game, he was a wrestling coach.
Curwensville

Clearfield, PA

#32 Dec 30, 2009
Concerned Parent wrote:
<quoted text>I've seen this video and was at that game. It was the first time of playing Curwensville. Why is one of the middle schools gym teachers coaching for Curwensville instead of Clearfield. I was told she was not needed. Is this true?
She wasn't wanted by Clearfield because she knew how to play v-ball.
Ex-Bison

Altoona, PA

#33 Dec 30, 2009
Our volleyball program needs more than a coach. They need an individual who will rally support for these from the school administration, including the athletic director.

They need an individual who will develop positive relationships with each player's parents. By doing so, they will develop a stronger support base and a more positive playing atmosphere.

These girls need a coach who is knowledgeable and passionate about the game and the program. They need a coach who will support them individually and collectively.

They need a coach who will make them believe in each other as players and collectively as a team. They need a coach who will push them in practices and on the court. They need a coach who will unify them as one.

And, then they will see some success. It won't happen overnight. It will take time but is very possible with the right people.
KACD - Clearfield

Clearfield, PA

#34 Dec 30, 2009
What a bunch of funny people you all are. I think you all should get your facts straight before you start shooting off your mouths regarding Clearfield Volleyball. Did anyone else step up and take the position to coach these girls? NO!!! Regardless of the knoweledge of the game, Bob Peters stepped up to the plate or there wouldn't have been a volleyball team. If you know anything at all about the sport of volleyball, you would know its almost impossible to try and play 40 girls on a team of 6, so he did the best that he could with what he had. As far as Jon Mikesell is concerned, he does the best job that he can for all sports at Clearfield. He did exactly what he should have when the irate parents showed up at that practice. If you, as parents had read the policies and procedures from the athletic department, you would have known the proper channels to take if you felt your daughter was treated unfairly. The middle school gym teacher is a part time coach at Curwensville, she has a family and wanted to be an assistant coach to spend more time with her family. There again, you don't know what your talking about. So, in closing, if you don't have your facts straight, keep your mouths shut!
Jeff

Cumberland, MD

#35 Dec 30, 2009
I personally know people who approached Miksell to help and were turned down so what is your excuse about that?

In a meeting with the girls he told them he didn't want anyone helping who was a "friend, relative or pastor." What's your excuse regarding that?

As far as there being 40 girls on the team, that's what happens when you put everyone on a team who signs up. Maybe there should be some limits set BEFORE things get out of control. Who puts 40 girls on a team anyway?

Parents didn't go to the school because of players being treated unfairly, they went because their daughters were called "Lazy Bitches" and that they "Needed to get off their asses".
Is that appropriate behavior? Whould you sit there and let someone (someone who had prior charges of disorderly conduct/obscene language/gestures)say those thing to your child?

The school district was paying someone to be an assistant coach that couldn't make it to the games. What's your excuse for that?
Brandy

Cumberland, MD

#36 Dec 30, 2009
Hey KACD,

0-18 is the only fact you need to know.
GoTide

Altoona, PA

#37 Dec 30, 2009
Brandy wrote:
Hey KACD,
0-18 is the only fact you need to know.
>

Sounds to me like the girls SUCK (in the negative way)

ROLL TIDE
Jeff

Cumberland, MD

#38 Dec 30, 2009
That's too bad you would stoop so low as to make that comment, especially when so many of our girls have stated in the past what a good team Curwensville has.
I guess good sportsmanship is something that some Curwensville people will never learn. Thanks for making your community look bad.
Haloway

Orlando, FL

#39 Dec 30, 2009
Jeff wrote:
That's too bad you would stoop so low as to make that comment, especially when so many of our girls have stated in the past what a good team Curwensville has.
I guess good sportsmanship is something that some Curwensville people will never learn. Thanks for making your community look bad.
The poster from Curvensville has some serious mental issues, and has just proven it again.
Haloway

Orlando, FL

#40 Dec 30, 2009
KACD - Clearfield wrote:
What a bunch of funny people you all are. I think you all should get your facts straight before you start shooting off your mouths regarding Clearfield Volleyball. Did anyone else step up and take the position to coach these girls? NO!!! Regardless of the knoweledge of the game, Bob Peters stepped up to the plate or there wouldn't have been a volleyball team. If you know anything at all about the sport of volleyball, you would know its almost impossible to try and play 40 girls on a team of 6, so he did the best that he could with what he had. As far as Jon Mikesell is concerned, he does the best job that he can for all sports at Clearfield. He did exactly what he should have when the irate parents showed up at that practice. If you, as parents had read the policies and procedures from the athletic department, you would have known the proper channels to take if you felt your daughter was treated unfairly. The middle school gym teacher is a part time coach at Curwensville, she has a family and wanted to be an assistant coach to spend more time with her family. There again, you don't know what your talking about. So, in closing, if you don't have your facts straight, keep your mouths shut!
KACD - Clearfield is Adrianne Peters, Bob Peters' daughter. Everyone say Hi Adrianne. She is new to topix.
GoTide

Altoona, PA

#41 Dec 30, 2009
Jeff wrote:
That's too bad you would stoop so low as to make that comment, especially when so many of our girls have stated in the past what a good team Curwensville has.
I guess good sportsmanship is something that some Curwensville people will never learn. Thanks for making your community look bad.
>

It was a joke for God's sake.......All this complaining about the coaching just reminds me why I quit coaching Little League
Haloway

Orlando, FL

#42 Dec 30, 2009
GoTide wrote:
<quoted text>>
It was a joke for God's sake.......All this complaining about the coaching just reminds me why I quit coaching Little League
Yea, because you got caught doing things to the little boys, you sick ba $tard. You're always talking about doing sick things to children.

You're sicker than Kyle Shirey on New Year's Day.
Vollyball Mom

Woodland, PA

#43 Dec 31, 2009
KACD - Clearfield wrote:
What a bunch of funny people you all are. I think you all should get your facts straight before you start shooting off your mouths regarding Clearfield Volleyball. Did anyone else step up and take the position to coach these girls? NO!!! Regardless of the knoweledge of the game, Bob Peters stepped up to the plate or there wouldn't have been a volleyball team. If you know anything at all about the sport of volleyball, you would know its almost impossible to try and play 40 girls on a team of 6, so he did the best that he could with what he had. As far as Jon Mikesell is concerned, he does the best job that he can for all sports at Clearfield. He did exactly what he should have when the irate parents showed up at that practice. If you, as parents had read the policies and procedures from the athletic department, you would have known the proper channels to take if you felt your daughter was treated unfairly. The middle school gym teacher is a part time coach at Curwensville, she has a family and wanted to be an assistant coach to spend more time with her family. There again, you don't know what your talking about. So, in closing, if you don't have your facts straight, keep your mouths shut!
Hey KACD, Your comments are full of crap and so are Peter and Mikesell. The response I got when I talked with Mikesell was Peters was used to coaching boys. What in the f**k does that mean or have to do with coaching volleyball. I sure as hell hope he can drive a coach bus better than coaching volleyball!

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