No to GOP in 2012

Clearfield, PA

#1 Feb 19, 2012
When will people wake up in this country? It's time that everyone realizes that our Founding Fathers DID NOT want religion in the Government. That is why we have the choice to choose what and when to worship. I'm Pro-Choice, equal pay for women, the right to form a union if you wish, for gay marriage, my right to be an atheist without people looking down as I'm not worth the air they breath, equal rights for gays as for straight people like being in the military, and the GOP not be elected in 2012.
Da truth

Chardon, OH

#2 Feb 19, 2012
Sorry, your basic premise is wrong. Learn some history and report back.
Charles Edward

Cumberland, MD

#3 Feb 19, 2012
No to GOP in 2012 wrote:
When will people wake up in this country? It's time that everyone realizes that our Founding Fathers DID NOT want religion in the Government. That is why we have the choice to choose what and when to worship. I'm Pro-Choice, equal pay for women, the right to form a union if you wish, for gay marriage, my right to be an atheist without people looking down as I'm not worth the air they breath, equal rights for gays as for straight people like being in the military, and the GOP not be elected in 2012.


Apparently you failed History in school.

“I am here”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#4 Feb 20, 2012
No to GOP in 2012 wrote:
When will people wake up in this country? It's time that everyone realizes that our Founding Fathers DID NOT want religion in the Government. That is why we have the choice to choose what and when to worship. I'm Pro-Choice, equal pay for women, the right to form a union if you wish, for gay marriage, my right to be an atheist without people looking down as I'm not worth the air they breath, equal rights for gays as for straight people like being in the military, and the GOP not be elected in 2012.
I'm selling soap boxes to put myself through GED classes. How many would you like?
Not Green

Clearfield, PA

#5 Feb 20, 2012
No to GOP in 2012 wrote:
When will people wake up in this country? It's time that everyone realizes that our Founding Fathers DID NOT want religion in the Government. That is why we have the choice to choose what and when to worship. I'm Pro-Choice, equal pay for women, the right to form a union if you wish, for gay marriage, my right to be an atheist without people looking down as I'm not worth the air they breath, equal rights for gays as for straight people like being in the military, and the GOP not be elected in 2012.
Clueless!!!!!!!!
Not necessarily

Cumberland, MD

#6 Feb 20, 2012
The founding fathers were Deists. They wanted separation of church and state so those involved in government would vote for what they believed was right for the country as a whole, not for what the different churches were endorsing. If you look back through European history, particularly during the time of the American Revolution, there were certain religious organizations who were using their power to influence how government was being run. Basically they were saying "You aren't a good (insert religion here) if you don't support our cause." This is what the the founding fathers wanted to avoid.
This does not mean they were anti-religion. You are correct in saying that they wanted to provide people with the freedom to practice their beliefs, but I do not think it was their intention to repress religion completely. I don't endorse any one particular religion but I truly believe the reason our country has become so self-centered, egotistical and slovenly is that we have no structure. We no longer teach our children to respect and to be kind to one another, we do not teach them to appreciate what they have, we do not teach them to work hard and be proud of what they accomplish, and we do not teach them to love. I don't care what religion or non-religion you practice, these basic principles are something our entire country can learn to live by. Instead we are raising entire generations to believe that they are entitled to everything because someone owes it to them.
No to GOP in 2012 wrote:
When will people wake up in this country? It's time that everyone realizes that our Founding Fathers DID NOT want religion in the Government. That is why we have the choice to choose what and when to worship. I'm Pro-Choice, equal pay for women, the right to form a union if you wish, for gay marriage, my right to be an atheist without people looking down as I'm not worth the air they breath, equal rights for gays as for straight people like being in the military, and the GOP not be elected in 2012.
Reverend Irreverent

State College, PA

#7 Feb 20, 2012
Not necessarily wrote:
The founding fathers were Deists. They wanted separation of church and state so those involved in government would vote for what they believed was right for the country as a whole, not for what the different churches were endorsing. If you look back through European history, particularly during the time of the American Revolution, there were certain religious organizations who were using their power to influence how government was being run. Basically they were saying "You aren't a good (insert religion here) if you don't support our cause." This is what the the founding fathers wanted to avoid.
This does not mean they were anti-religion. You are correct in saying that they wanted to provide people with the freedom to practice their beliefs, but I do not think it was their intention to repress religion completely. I don't endorse any one particular religion but I truly believe the reason our country has become so self-centered, egotistical and slovenly is that we have no structure. We no longer teach our children to respect and to be kind to one another, we do not teach them to appreciate what they have, we do not teach them to work hard and be proud of what they accomplish, and we do not teach them to love. I don't care what religion or non-religion you practice, these basic principles are something our entire country can learn to live by. Instead we are raising entire generations to believe that they are entitled to everything because someone owes it to them.
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This. Well-stated.
ISWHATITIS

Beaver Springs, PA

#8 Feb 20, 2012
Not necessarily wrote:
The founding fathers were Deists. They wanted separation of church and state so those involved in government would vote for what they believed was right for the country as a whole, not for what the different churches were endorsing. If you look back through European history, particularly during the time of the American Revolution, there were certain religious organizations who were using their power to influence how government was being run. Basically they were saying "You aren't a good (insert religion here) if you don't support our cause." This is what the the founding fathers wanted to avoid.
This does not mean they were anti-religion. You are correct in saying that they wanted to provide people with the freedom to practice their beliefs, but I do not think it was their intention to repress religion completely. I don't endorse any one particular religion but I truly believe the reason our country has become so self-centered, egotistical and slovenly is that we have no structure. We no longer teach our children to respect and to be kind to one another, we do not teach them to appreciate what they have, we do not teach them to work hard and be proud of what they accomplish, and we do not teach them to love. I don't care what religion or non-religion you practice, these basic principles are something our entire country can learn to live by. Instead we are raising entire generations to believe that they are entitled to everything because someone owes it to them.
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I too think this was well stated. Thank you for an well informed , intelligent post.
BK fool

United States

#9 Feb 20, 2012
Reverend Irreverent wrote:
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This. Well-stated.
Now we have the Reverend commenting on his own posts. You are not fooling anyone.
Not Green

Clearfield, PA

#10 Feb 21, 2012
BK fool wrote:
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Now we have the Reverend commenting on his own posts. You are not fooling anyone.
right on!
meowiz

Columbus, OH

#11 Feb 21, 2012
AMERICA! F*ck yeah!
Dollar Baby

Olmsted Falls, OH

#12 Feb 22, 2012
meowiz wrote:
AMERICA! F*ck yeah!
You are as big of a loser as Reverand Irrelevant.
meowiz

United States

#13 Feb 23, 2012
Dollar Baby wrote:
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You are as big of a loser as Reverand Irrelevant.
oh noes!
Truth is

Canton, OH

#14 Feb 23, 2012
We have been teaching our children that they are special and deserve the best. That sounds good but in reality we are teaching them entitlement without accomplishment. We are basically raising a generation of selfish under-achievers with emotional issues and little respect for hard work. Patience is out the window now that everything is designed towards instant gratification. What I am getting at is regardless of your religious beliefs; we all agree on the same basic principles of our founding fathers. The idea that morals and ethics should be understood and respected. You can combine morals with government and still have separation of church and state. Intact it is essential. When the world changes abruptly as it has in the last 20 years it is time to find a better way to apply the basic principles our government was founded on progressively.
Reverend Irreverent

Wyncote, PA

#15 Feb 23, 2012
Dollar Baby wrote:
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You are as big of a loser as Reverand Irrelevant.
Random high school kid insulting me. How edgy and unexpected of a development. Topix is just full of surprises.
Darwin

Clearfield, PA

#16 Feb 23, 2012
Truth is wrote:
We have been teaching our children that they are special and deserve the best. That sounds good but in reality we are teaching them entitlement without accomplishment. We are basically raising a generation of selfish under-achievers with emotional issues and little respect for hard work. Patience is out the window now that everything is designed towards instant gratification. What I am getting at is regardless of your religious beliefs; we all agree on the same basic principles of our founding fathers. The idea that morals and ethics should be understood and respected. You can combine morals with government and still have separation of church and state. Intact it is essential. When the world changes abruptly as it has in the last 20 years it is time to find a better way to apply the basic principles our government was founded on progressively.
Under-achievers? instant gratification? I don't think so, kids these days are under much more pressure to perform at school than when I was in school.
Heck it wasn't too long ago when I was in school kids wouldn't even have to show up for school to graduate. Now they all have to pass standardized tests to graduate.
And with the pressure of getting into a good college and the expense of college these days kids are under much more pressure to perform academically than they were 10 or 20 years ago.
Truth is

Columbus, OH

#17 Feb 23, 2012
I am not arguing the pressure kids are under. I am saying things need to evolve with the times.

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