VA Property Tax Exemption for Veterans, Question 2

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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“Bleeding Fingers”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#41 Oct 12, 2010
Petsound wrote:
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No. Disability is disability, and it shouldn't matter if it was connected to being in the military.
When you join the military, you have to expect to get hurt or killed. It's like being a cop: There is a danger, and YOU have to realize and accept that if you enter that profession.
Any time it gets too tough a cop can say I quit on the spot! You put your name on that line and you can not quit untill the contract is over. Human nature says I'll be OK it will happen to "the other guy". Talk to a teenager about death, it's NOT in their future, They are 6" and bullet proof.(Ask them). I won't EVEN get into the VALUE a person would put on their service if not for human nature.
yes

United States

#42 Oct 12, 2010
Definitely a yes for me! I firsthand witnessed a man suffer for several years and die for his country from a service related illness caused by Agent Orange in the Vietnam War, like many others did as well. These Vietnam Vets were spit on and called names when they came back. Many of them were not given a choice of whether or not to go. People, the struggle DOES NOT stop for the these people when they come back from the war zone. Most of these men do not get the thanks that they deserve. They deserve a lot more than what they receive. My hat is off to every man and woman that serves my country, and protects my freedom.
Wondering

Haymarket, VA

#43 Oct 12, 2010
yes wrote:
Definitely a yes for me! I firsthand witnessed a man suffer for several years and die for his country from a service related illness caused by Agent Orange in the Vietnam War, like many others did as well. These Vietnam Vets were spit on and called names when they came back. Many of them were not given a choice of whether or not to go. People, the struggle DOES NOT stop for the these people when they come back from the war zone. Most of these men do not get the thanks that they deserve. They deserve a lot more than what they receive. My hat is off to every man and woman that serves my country, and protects my freedom.
Shouldn't this man's widow get the thanks he didn't live long enough to hear? The ballot measure states "surviving spouses" so why are the surviving spouses being left out?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#44 Oct 12, 2010
WTCSRET wrote:
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Any time it gets too tough a cop can say I quit on the spot! You put your name on that line and you can not quit untill the contract is over. Human nature says I'll be OK it will happen to "the other guy". Talk to a teenager about death, it's NOT in their future, They are 6" and bullet proof.(Ask them). I won't EVEN get into the VALUE a person would put on their service if not for human nature.
That has little to do with what I said.

As a teen, I never thought I was bulletproof; I knew little of my peers who thought that way, unless they were spoiled preppie kids.

“Bleeding Fingers”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#45 Oct 12, 2010
PETSOUND yapped:
>When you join the military, you have to expect to >get hurt or killed. It's like being a cop

My reply was right on point, 1 week spent in defense of your country (Basic Training) fills you in on the difference. Then human nature takes over to soften the blow and insert the "other guy". It's obvious to me you have not traveled that pipeline.
I think your statement about your teen years would make you unfit for milatary service. You being the exception to the rule.
The milatary has a lot of stock invested in their methods, they would take very unkindly to an exception to the rules :)
Nobody is my name

Bristol, VA

#46 Oct 12, 2010
Jerry63 wrote:
I served during the first Gulf war and never got hurt, came back home to do my duty serving the people where I live.
I don't get anything for my service and don't think I should. Hell, the number of people that even said thank you to me I could count on one hand.
Let me say to you THANK YOU.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#47 Oct 12, 2010
WTCSRET wrote:
PETSOUND yapped:
>When you join the military, you have to expect to >get hurt or killed. It's like being a cop
My reply was right on point, 1 week spent in defense of your country (Basic Training) fills you in on the difference. Then human nature takes over to soften the blow and insert the "other guy". It's obvious to me you have not traveled that pipeline.
I think your statement about your teen years would make you unfit for milatary service. You being the exception to the rule.
The milatary has a lot of stock invested in their methods, they would take very unkindly to an exception to the rules :)
So you think the military trains people to not be killed? It still happens, and one has to expect it! If you go into battle expecting to live, you've missed the point. You fight as if it were your last. If you think you're invincible in the military, you're through.
taxpayer

Abingdon, VA

#48 Oct 12, 2010
Absolutely! Anyone who is 100 percent permanently and totally disabed related to military service deserves all the help they can get. And no, I am not in the service nor have anyone in the service. I just appreciate what these fine people have done for the U.S. and what they gave for us.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#49 Oct 12, 2010
Jerry63 wrote:
"I don't care: They don't deserve a tax exemption. They can have all limbs removed from battle, and I would not care" @Petsound
Try living in Iran and just say something bad about the President, you and your family would be killed for it. A lot of good men and women gave their life so you can voice what you think. The VA is in very bad shape right now and as far as what a disabled Vet gets every month, I know one man who was wounded in Vietnam. He gets $1,300 a month.
I served during the first Gulf war and never got hurt, came back home to do my duty serving the people where I live.
I don't get anything for my service and don't think I should. Hell, the number of people that even said thank you to me I could count on one hand. The service men and women who were wounded should get this tax break for the price they have paid. It is people like you that love the freedom to spew hate but could care less how you got that freedom. Like I said, go trying living in a country where what you say could cost you and your family their lifes.
I was proud to serve this country that I love so much and I am very thankful for those who served before me and after. There is a lot more that should be done for the ones who come home broken.
I just for the life of me cannot understand the hate in this country now. If I lived there now I would vote yes.
Umm, what happens to families in Iran means nothing to me. I'm an American citizen, and can say what I want.

I am glad you served our country; I have nothing against military, but I don't believe in the worshiping many Americans do for them. My grandfather was the last person in my immediate family to serve; he hated it, didn't expect any rewards for it, and didn't want any special treatment. He was an American citizen, just like our president. The President and my grandfather pay taxes, so why should any veteran, disabled or not, not have to?

I also have a relative that inhaled many of the gases spread during Vietnam. He was obviously hurt and disabled because of it, but did he expect anything? No. He even worked for many years afterward, despite his health problems. He paid taxes just like anyone else.

When a soldier is disabled, they're still an American citizen, and should have to pay taxes. Maybe the military could pay it for them? If they military/gov't is willing to send a million dollar jet into battle, I think they should be willing to pay their disabled vets taxes if the person has no way of doing so, or needs money for other things.
VETNAM 2

Vienna, VA

#50 Oct 12, 2010
Jerry63 wrote:
"I don't care: They don't deserve a tax exemption. They can have all limbs removed from battle, and I would not care" @Petsound
Try living in Iran and just say something bad about the President, you and your family would be killed for it. A lot of good men and women gave their life so you can voice what you think. The VA is in very bad shape right now and as far as what a disabled Vet gets every month, I know one man who was wounded in Vietnam. He gets $1,300 a month.
I served during the first Gulf war and never got hurt, came back home to do my duty serving the people where I live.
I don't get anything for my service and don't think I should. Hell, the number of people that even said thank you to me I could count on one hand. The service men and women who were wounded should get this tax break for the price they have paid. It is people like you that love the freedom to spew hate but could care less how you got that freedom. Like I said, go trying living in a country where what you say could cost you and your family their lifes.
I was proud to serve this country that I love so much and I am very thankful for those who served before me and after. There is a lot more that should be done for the ones who come home broken.
I just for the life of me cannot understand the hate in this country now. If I lived there now I would vote yes.
Jerry.....

Welcome home.....and Thank You for your service.
overstaffed

Hopewell, VA

#51 Oct 12, 2010
WTCSRET wrote:
PETSOUND yapped:
>When you join the military, you have to expect to >get hurt or killed. It's like being a cop
My reply was right on point, 1 week spent in defense of your country (Basic Training) fills you in on the difference. Then human nature takes over to soften the blow and insert the "other guy". It's obvious to me you have not traveled that pipeline.
I think your statement about your teen years would make you unfit for milatary service. You being the exception to the rule.
The milatary has a lot of stock invested in their methods, they would take very unkindly to an exception to the rules :)
Basic Training takes human nature out of you. It replaces it with the I'm going to kill for my country. Most police don't have that, they're protecting and serving. I never thought dying or being injured was an option for me to decide from as a Marine. One shot one kill and if there were too many to shoot, you threw a grenade or pumped a 40mm m203 round downrange. You strategically surrounded yourself by claymores; trip wired some and toggled the rest for "Oh Crap, it's serious" and you faithfully used that prick 77 when there was no hope and you wanted your death to be quick and painless with the exception of your human nature coming back and your heart pounding as you hoped that the mortar or 105mm round that you just called in wasn't quite our zero. When and if you made it home, you knew that whatever was wrong that congress okayed to send you, it didn't have any regard for your life.
If war has that much many, then the spoils should go to the service member and his family; it's not the average citizen's country anymore. I don't care who died that they knew to secure their rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; the ownership changed the day that I and whoever else stood in MEPS and swore allegiance to sacrifice life and limb. I can still hear that dumbazz bugle or trumpet blowing Taps. I can still feel the jump as a procession of a '21 gun salute' starts and I can still see the family members' faces as they receive a flag in place of a person. The tears aren't from sadness, they're of hate for whoever did it and the person they eventually recognize is the U.S of A and a bunch of dummies that rarely get what they started the war for. I still would vote no; simply because Life goes on and we pay for enough stuff forever as it is.
Joan

Charlottesville, VA

#52 Oct 12, 2010
VETNAM 2 wrote:
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Jerry.....
Welcome home.....and Thank You for your service.
Thanks to you also VIETNAM 2. My husband served twice in Vietnam, and he always greets a Vietnam Veteran with Thank You for your service to our country. They are always so appreciative. We should all do it more often.
VETNAM 2

Vienna, VA

#53 Oct 12, 2010
Joan wrote:
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Thanks to you also VIETNAM 2. My husband served twice in Vietnam, and he always greets a Vietnam Veteran with Thank You for your service to our country. They are always so appreciative. We should all do it more often.
Thank you, Joan. Vets can recognize other Vets a mile away and I try to do the same. That includes ALL Vets and active duty too.
Levi

Charlottesville, VA

#54 Oct 12, 2010
Petsound: You don't have to care. Others will care. I bet you didn't even vote and probably aren't registered. Probably a felon that didn't leave the county when released from BCF.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#55 Oct 12, 2010
Levi wrote:
Petsound: You don't have to care. Others will care. I bet you didn't even vote and probably aren't registered. Probably a felon that didn't leave the county when released from BCF.
Just because I have a different opinion than you, doesn't mean you have to accuse me of being a felon.

I am a registered voter.
booger

Charlottesville, VA

#56 Oct 12, 2010
Joan wrote:
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Not so! You are totally misinformed. Vets have to pay for their care according to their income or their percentage of disability. If you retire from the service you have health care, but most veterans don't retire. A lot were drafted, they pull their time and get out. They are still veterans. My son is a veteran of 8 years service to his country. He doesn't get his health care free. His daughter started college this fall, he and his wife are paying for her tuition. She is also working part time to help pay. My husband was in the military for 7 years, we payed for our childrens tuition in college. Not all veterans get what they deserve. Try the Vietnam Veterans. They came back home, couldn't get a job, most had a lot of health and mental problems which they have never been compensated for, nor ever will. Most were drafted and didn't want to go, but they went when their country called. Over 50,000 died and thousands are unaccounted for. They slept in tents for a year or more. They communicated with their families by letter. At least the man and wife you speak of can enjoy a day off every once in a while, and don't have to dodge bullits for a living. If men and women didn't enlist, the draft would be enforced again, and you or your husband might have had to go, or would you run to Canada like a lot of chickens did? People like you make me sick!
I think Golden Corral gives a military discount and so does Dollywood; you can take your son and have a whooping good time. So because someone fights for their country they deserve a life long hand out?? Do you expect special rewards for protecting your children from harms way? No! Why would you expect lifelong compensation for defending your country? I would take it as an honor, regardless if i was drafted or not. You say vets have to pay for their healthcare as if you expect that for free too! As far as your grandaughter having to work part time, boohoo! That's how it should be, but i guess you want her to slide by in life too, and her kids and grandkids too, all because johnny boy served 8 years for his country. And as far as dodging bullets, i have to agree with the other person...cops risk their lives every day, should they be tax free? Are they less important? They can suffer PTSD, imagine the poor guys that had to clean up the VT shooting! I bet they aren't included in tax-free ideas.
What about the guys in the army reserve or national guard who never step foot out of America. They spend a weekend out of the month brushing up on a little skills, shooting off lots of tax-paid ammunition, etc. Why in the heck should they be tax free? They are still considered vets and they may have never stepped foot in any sort of stressful situation other than boot camp. I think it's bullshit that people like you think that because of the military title, they should all get freebies and breaks everywhere they go. Give it up, there's enough free-loaders around here, you and your hubby and son and the next 5 generations of your family can kiss my tax-paying ass. YES i have cousins, uncles, aunts, and nephews who have served and do serve in the armed services. NO they do NOT expect a handout everytime they turn around. They are happy that they are able to do their job!
V N VET

Hopewell, VA

#57 Oct 12, 2010
pisssound never served, he probably was one that threw bags of crap at us as we returned home. a pox on him and people like him. to the vets and spouses,thank you for your service and sacrifice. may GOD bless you all. Welcome home!
kristy

United States

#58 Oct 12, 2010
"No. I don't kiss veteran's asses."
llook if a vet is disabled to to the service it means that they are unable to work. What ur problem. We are good enough to lose a arm for you and you still can't give us a break.
kristy vet

United States

#59 Oct 12, 2010
old vet wrote:
disabled military vets drawing 100% can afford to pay their taxes.
no one is sayin you can it's just respect to exempt you from the old timer.
Joan

Charlottesville, VA

#60 Oct 12, 2010
booger wrote:
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I think Golden Corral gives a military discount and so does Dollywood; you can take your son and have a whooping good time. So because someone fights for their country they deserve a life long hand out?? Do you expect special rewards for protecting your children from harms way? No! Why would you expect lifelong compensation for defending your country? I would take it as an honor, regardless if i was drafted or not. You say vets have to pay for their healthcare as if you expect that for free too! As far as your grandaughter having to work part time, boohoo! That's how it should be, but i guess you want her to slide by in life too, and her kids and grandkids too, all because johnny boy served 8 years for his country. And as far as dodging bullets, i have to agree with the other person...cops risk their lives every day, should they be tax free? Are they less important? They can suffer PTSD, imagine the poor guys that had to clean up the VT shooting! I bet they aren't included in tax-free ideas.
What about the guys in the army reserve or national guard who never step foot out of America. They spend a weekend out of the month brushing up on a little skills, shooting off lots of tax-paid ammunition, etc. Why in the heck should they be tax free? They are still considered vets and they may have never stepped foot in any sort of stressful situation other than boot camp. I think it's bullshit that people like you think that because of the military title, they should all get freebies and breaks everywhere they go. Give it up, there's enough free-loaders around here, you and your hubby and son and the next 5 generations of your family can kiss my tax-paying ass. YES i have cousins, uncles, aunts, and nephews who have served and do serve in the armed services. NO they do NOT expect a handout everytime they turn around. They are happy that they are able to do their job!
Do I detect jealousy here?? I think so. Maybe you tried to pass the test, failed and couldn't get into the military. I'm glad that you pay your taxes, so do service men and women. Im also glad that my granddaughter is working her way through college, she is also paying taxes. As far as I know a cop has never been drafted, they choose to join the force. In the line of duty, if a cop is injured they are compensated, sometimes for life if the injury is bad. You are a stupid jerk who is so dumb, he doesn't know his a-- from a hole in the ground. You are an ungreatful slob, who has a chip on his shoulder. You may as well get ready to help pay these Veterans taxes because this bill is going to pass. Make sure to tell your relatives they may qualify as well. Maybe they can take the trip to Dollywoood then and take you with them.

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