Law enforcement in Harrison County

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absolute truthe

Grafton, WV

#1 Aug 10, 2011
What,in your opinions,is the best and worst police departments in Harrison County and what do you think needs to be done to improve the worst?
Machine Breaker Supporter

Clarksburg, WV

#2 Aug 10, 2011
There aren't any bad police departments in Harrison County...just bad leaders in some...who is the worst leader...start with Sheriff Marano. What other department has lost 20% of their manpower and 50% of their SGTS.???
bridgeport resident

Watertown, WI

#3 Aug 11, 2011
West Milford lost there whole Dept so what they do pay wvsp instead of hcsd to patrol there city what's wrong with that picture

Since: Nov 08

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#4 Aug 13, 2011
Lumberport, West Milford, and Stonewood all lost 100%. Lumberport has always had at least one on the payroll but the turnover is at 100% in the last year too two years.

Stonewood is the worst department in the County due to all thier political BS and instability, Shinnston and Anmoore are a close second.
Absolute truthe

Snow Hill, NC

#5 Aug 13, 2011
I can't fault a guy for leaving a department for reasons to better himself, and I am not putting down any of the small departments in the County but let's face it, the small departments do not have the budget to send their guys to the expensive training and the opportunities to improve themselves in the law enforcement proffesion are limited by this. Rather than talk about the turn over rate for a department, I would rather look at the reasons for the turn over rate. What I was getting at is this, what departments have you had the best dealings with and who have you had the worst with? Which department heads do you think act in the best interest for their communities and which seem to care less. If you had something happen where you needed the police and could call for any department in the County, which one would you call.

Since: Nov 08

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#6 Aug 13, 2011
Well the same nominees still apply based on either criteria.

Plus you made the point that no other department lost 20% of their force. I wanted to show that you in fact do not know what your talking about as I displayed above. When you boast this made up percentage you created you are also counting MANY deputies who just retired. I would also like to point out Clarksburg has also had a huge retirement rate and recently hired 7 new officers in one class to try to fill the void. I also forgot to mention Salem before in the turnover conversation. I think only one officer is still there since they got a new chief a few years back. So that is like 90% turnover.

These issues at all these little departments should also be taken into account when you stand back and snipe at the HCSD. Who do you think is responsible for covering all these little towns when they are not capable of fielding an officer? If they can not take care of thier own business it falls back on the HCSD. Not alot of help coming from the State Police I saw a story that said they were like 300 troops short in the state. They just started 41 new troops trying to fill positions (reference below.) The troopers working West Milford is a joke, I don't know that one has ever been out there. Sometimes they have one or two guy covering 3 counties in Harrison recently, and they don't really work over night or weekends.

http://sundaygazettemail.com/News/20110805106...

You are bending the facts to try to support your claims that the Sheriffs department is so poorly run. It is a very intricate problem and you are trying to dummy it down and blame the sheriff. You are not doing a very good job of it. The only people that are eatting your BS are the regular cop haters that would agree with whatever BS people say as long as it is negative.

The fact of the matter is that all Law Enforcement jobs are short staffed, because it is a low paying crap job where you have more opportunity to get disrespected, killed, injured, or sued than any other profession I can think of. Add to that in WV the physical requirements are high and eliminate a huge section of the population because they are not capable of passing the exam. It is designed for people in very good physical condition. Which is fine....if you can find people to pass it.
West Milford resident

Philippi, WV

#7 Aug 14, 2011
Oh the troopers are here! Have been for a few months and you never know where they will be. I know that they've beeen handing out tickets because I've heard people complaining. I see less hoodlums running around town now than before. Now if only we could do something about the drug problem. Wait we don't have a drug task force anymore.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#8 Aug 14, 2011
West Milford resident wrote:
Oh the troopers are here! Have been for a few months and you never know where they will be. I know that they've beeen handing out tickets because I've heard people complaining. I see less hoodlums running around town now than before. Now if only we could do something about the drug problem. Wait we don't have a drug task force anymore.
Why would you say that? We still have a drug task force. That is not a true statement.
Harrison Co LEO

Bridgeport, WV

#9 Aug 14, 2011
The Sheriff's Office is fine, the reasons for the recent vacancies are many, but few fall on leadership...new jobs and better opportunities for some, others just feel their talents are better suited in other areas. Sheriff Marano does a fine job and honestly is the Sheriff this county has been waiting for. I work closely with the Deputies and the vast majority support the Sheriff and his leadership. Task Force opperations are in the works and I commend the Sheriff for his efforts to fill the vacancies with qualified staff and not just putting whomever in there to fill a vacancy. The Sheriff has an outstanding force and if you only read the rants and raves of Mr.Matt Harvy and a few others you obviously do not see or know the entire picture. Sheriff Marano is above the satire of Chief John Walker and his efforts to give the Sheriff's Office a "black eye". I look forward to the changes taking place in the Department now and am confident things will be better than ever soon.
Machine Breaker Supporter

Clarksburg, WV

#10 Aug 14, 2011
Come on RAZOR, you're going to compare a town police department that has 2 or maybe 3 fulltime officers with a 40+ county sheriffs department that loses 20% of it's manpower...and 50% of it's SGTS....Disingenuous my friend
Absolute truthe

Morgantown, WV

#11 Aug 14, 2011
Once again you have proven yourself uninformed. The physical requirments to get hired into a law enforcement job are pathetic. Any 18 year old should have no problem passing the requirements. 1.5 mile run in just short of 15 minutes and the push up and sit up portion are pretty absurd too. You are correct in the job is a crappy job and it is true that you aren't going to get rich in the job. I will not deny that it takes a special person to take on the job and those people are getting harder to find, just speak to the people running these departments and ask how many people took the test 20 years ago versus now. I do not take exception to your comment about the 20% loss because I was not the one who said it and I am going to presume that you realize that.

As for you Harrison Co. LEO, are you one of the yes men or are you just full of BS? If you really are a LEO in Harrison County, and you really are talking to the guys in the Sheriff dept. and they are telling you that everything is great and that the sheriff is the greatest thing going then you obviously aren't trusted by them to tell you the truth becuase it will get back to the sheriff.

Since: Nov 08

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#12 Aug 14, 2011
Absolute truthe wrote:
Once again you have proven yourself uninformed. The physical requirments to get hired into a law enforcement job are pathetic. Any 18 year old should have no problem passing the requirements. 1.5 mile run in just short of 15 minutes and the push up and sit up portion are pretty absurd too. You are correct in the job is a crappy job and it is true that you aren't going to get rich in the job. I will not deny that it takes a special person to take on the job and those people are getting harder to find, just speak to the people running these departments and ask how many people took the test 20 years ago versus now. I do not take exception to your comment about the 20% loss because I was not the one who said it and I am going to presume that you realize that.
As for you Harrison Co. LEO, are you one of the yes men or are you just full of BS? If you really are a LEO in Harrison County, and you really are talking to the guys in the Sheriff dept. and they are telling you that everything is great and that the sheriff is the greatest thing going then you obviously aren't trusted by them to tell you the truth becuase it will get back to the sheriff.
Well if you think 18 is the ideal age for new officers then you are right and I am wrong. I would perfer someone a little more mature. The requirements are not impossible but they are not a push over either. A lot of the guys in retirement age now would have never been hired under todays requirements. It is designed for small fit guys.
Absolute truthe

Morgantown, WV

#13 Aug 15, 2011
Okay you are truly a moron. Did I say anywhere in my last post that I thought that an 18 year old was the ideal candidate. I said that the physical requirements could be done by most 18 year olds. As for the requirements not being a push over I laugh at you. Anyone who can't pass the agility test should be ashamed of themselves. Especially if they have had weeks to get ready to take the test and fail. Unless you have taken the test then don't even talk about it, and if you have taken the test and failed it, then hang your head in shame for being that far out of shape and hit the gym. Although I too prefer someone with a little more maturity, I know a few 18 year olds who would make fine police officers, but the truth about the physical standards for passing the test to become a cop should be easy for any 50 year old who has maintained any kind of reasonable shape to pass. why don't you broaden your thinking a little bit and quit taking everything you read in such literal sense. I do agree with you about most of the guys of retirement age, however I also know plenty of them who could outperform any 18 year old, and unlike you, I speak from personal knowlege.

Since: Nov 08

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#14 Aug 15, 2011
Absolute truthe wrote:
Okay you are truly a moron. Did I say anywhere in my last post that I thought that an 18 year old was the ideal candidate. I said that the physical requirements could be done by most 18 year olds. As for the requirements not being a push over I laugh at you. Anyone who can't pass the agility test should be ashamed of themselves. Especially if they have had weeks to get ready to take the test and fail. Unless you have taken the test then don't even talk about it, and if you have taken the test and failed it, then hang your head in shame for being that far out of shape and hit the gym. Although I too prefer someone with a little more maturity, I know a few 18 year olds who would make fine police officers, but the truth about the physical standards for passing the test to become a cop should be easy for any 50 year old who has maintained any kind of reasonable shape to pass. why don't you broaden your thinking a little bit and quit taking everything you read in such literal sense. I do agree with you about most of the guys of retirement age, however I also know plenty of them who could outperform any 18 year old, and unlike you, I speak from personal knowlege.
Well its hard to tell what terrific shape you are in from your screen name. I was not aware you were so spectacular. You are very wrong about the physical agility test. It is difficult, and I know because I did fail it once. I have also been there to see large groups take it and less than 25% pass it. It is much harder than it sounds. I have seen guys that are in very good shape fail it. Because it is all done back to back and it is a very high pressure situation. I doubt any 50 year old could pass it unless they work out on a regular basis. Do you even know the requirements? You are the idiot not me. Ask any officer what the pass fail rate is, it is very high....some pass it and then when they have to take it a second time at the academy they fail it there.....in fact almost every time you send a group down there one gets sent back the first day.

You are full of shit saying you have professional knowledge of this or you would know what I am talking about.

If I recall correctly the last group that clarksburg sent down to the academy lost 2 the first day.

That is why your average officers are getting smaller and smaller. They have eliminated the big guys with the test. Believe me or don't. I am the one with the professional knowledge.
Bridgeport LEO

Clarksburg, WV

#15 Aug 15, 2011
Razor is absolutely correct. The test is not easy and it is shrinking the size average of officers. The HCSD usually cuts their hiring list in half when they give the test. It is probably around a 50/50 pass fail. Everyone that takes it is in good shape too its not like they are off the street, the requirements are known before you go. I think it is mental, people choke. Or they are trying to impress the testers and get gassed showing off half way through.

He is also right it is a sure thing when you send a group to the academy, someone will fail it even though they just passed it when they were hired.

He defiantly sounds like the one that knows what he is talking about. I also failed it the first time I took it.

You guys just hate razor. He is a bigger prick in person..haha. Sorry buddy.
JMac

Morgantown, WV

#16 Aug 15, 2011
You tell him Razor lol
Machine Breaker Supporter

Clarksburg, WV

#17 Aug 15, 2011
Harrison County LEO...please confirm for us that Sheriff Marano has someone assigned to the Drug Task Force...that's right you can't because he doesn't. The Task Force is back up to four (4) since both Clarksburg and Bridgeport have two (2) each assigned. If you call Marano an effective Sheriff when he neglects the Task Force then you are out of touch with reality. I've heard L.J. Maxey say he will fix that problem the first day he is in office as sheriff of Harrison County. If you are a cop in this county and don't know the truth about what is going on with the Task Force and Maranos dislike for it...then you must not be engaging any any meaningful conversation with your counterparts. SHERIFF MARANO HAS NO DEPUTY WORKING DRUGS FULLTIME...how many times do you people have to hear that to get it through your heads. Come on let me hear you whine like Marano does about lack of manpower. He's going to find a uniformed deputy to go to the Senior Citizens Centers to make sure they pay their taxes. But he can't find a deputy to work drugs. Looking forward to 2012 as Maxey and Menendez will spread the word to the public.
JMac

Moundsville, WV

#18 Aug 15, 2011
Machine get over it Bridgeport and Clarksburg are fully staffed or should i say staffed better than the HCSD at the moment. Im sure HCSD under whichever sherrif will have a deputy or two on the task force in the future give them time to hire enough to cover there shift shortages first
Dorothy

Nashville, TN

#19 Aug 16, 2011
Razor1979 wrote:
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Well its hard to tell what terrific shape you are in from your screen name. I was not aware you were so spectacular. You are very wrong about the physical agility test. It is difficult, and I know because I did fail it once. I have also been there to see large groups take it and less than 25% pass it. It is much harder than it sounds. I have seen guys that are in very good shape fail it. Because it is all done back to back and it is a very high pressure situation. I doubt any 50 year old could pass it unless they work out on a regular basis. Do you even know the requirements? You are the idiot not me. Ask any officer what the pass fail rate is, it is very high....some pass it and then when they have to take it a second time at the academy they fail it there.....in fact almost every time you send a group down there one gets sent back the first day.
You are full of shit saying you have professional knowledge of this or you would know what I am talking about.
If I recall correctly the last group that clarksburg sent down to the academy lost 2 the first day.
That is why your average officers are getting smaller and smaller. They have eliminated the big guys with the test. Believe me or don't. I am the one with the professional knowledge.
Precisely why I am a RAZOR fan. get em with the true facts!!!
Machine Breaker Supporter

Clarksburg, WV

#20 Aug 16, 2011
JMac...get over what???...how come you guys never address any point I make??? Marano can find uniform deputies to go talk to senior citizens about their taxes...but he has a shortage of deputies??? So what has been his excuse since Oct. 2009 when he took the first deputy off...the deputy who had all the expertise in pill cases...was he under staffed then??? In case you need reminded that has been almost 2 years ago...does anybody know how many deputies he is suppose to have??? Walker and Goff are up front on how many they're authorized to have...but not Marano...Oh, and JMac, rest assured, there will be deputies assigned to the Task Force under Maxey...I don't beleive you'll hear that guy using the excuse of manpower shortage to neglect fighting drugs...2012

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