Blairsville-Saltsburg attendance crackdown suggested

Blairsville High School Principal Tim Haselhoff recommended the Blairsville-Saltsburg School Board adopt a new attendance policy that automatically would flunk students in grades 9-12 who miss numerous days of ...

[reason 2 bitch]

I REALY CANT BELIEVE WHAT IVE JUST READ!YOU CAN NOT SERIOUSLY EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN!SCHOOLS HAVE BECOME PRISONS INSTEAD OF EDUCATIONAL YOUR SCHOOL BOARD,TEACHERS,PRINCIPLES,AND SO ON THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTROL PARENTS, CHILDREN AND COMMUNITIES,THIS SICKENS ME.WERE THE HELL DO YOU GET OFF YOUR JOB IS TO EDUCATE DO YOU FORGET, YOU DID NOT ATTEND COLLEGE TO BE PAROL OR POLICE OFFICERS? E-D-U-C-A-T-E-R-S?????THAT IS YOUR JOB. IF A STUDENT IS FAILING FOR MISSING CLASS THAN THAT IS THAT CHILD AND THERE FAMILY TO CONTROL NOT YOU.IF ANY CHILD WHO MISSES SCHOOL BUT REMAINS A C OR ABOVE AVERAGE SHOULD NOT BE FAILED BECAUSE OF MISSED DAYS.WHY SHOULD ANY CHILD BE IN SCHOOL FOR ASSEMBLY DAYS OR STUPID FIELD TRIPS,STUDY HALL [2 OR MORE IN A ROW SOME DAYS],OR TO SIT THROUGH STUPID CLASSES THAT HAVE NO BERRING ON THERE FUTURE...WHY NOT TRY SOMETHING MORE EFFECTIVE LIKE A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE HOW MANY KIDS NEED FRENCH OR GERMAN???TRY JAPANESE OFFER THINGS THAT WILL BENEFIT THERE FUTURES, TECHNOLOGY IS ON THE RISE,MEDICAL TOO REALY HERES A THOUGHT T-E-A-C-H THEM NOT CONTROL THEM THEY WILL ATTEND AND BE BETTER SET FOR THE FUTURE.100 YEARS OF TEACHING THE SAME BORING CRAP TRY NEW WAYS. EDUCATERS SEEM TO THINK ITS YOUR JOB TO BECOME THESE KIDS PERANTS AND SOCIAL WORKERS BUT HEY ITS NOT MAYBE THE EDUCATERS NEED EDUCATED AGAIN.THE FUNDS ARE THERE FOR STUPID THINGS LIKE GUIDENCE COUNCLERS WHO DONT GIVE GOOD GUIDENCE THERE PAYS COMBINED CAN CREATE COMPUTER ENHANCED CLASSES.NOW WONDER MORE AND MORE PARENTS DO HOME SCHOOL THERE KIDS ARE BETTER OFF AND SMARTER THEY EXCELLE B/S DISTRIC IS HORRIABLE YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES FOR YOUR ATTEMPT AT EDUCATION NO WONDER ATTENDANCE IS LOW,CAN YOU BLAME THEM.WHEN YOUR CHILD COMES HOME FROM SCHOOL AND YOU ASK HOW WAS YOUR DAY LEARN ANYTHING NEW? THEY REPLY BORING AS USUAL AND NO,SAME OLD CRAP REALY MOM WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF SITTING THROUGH A CLASS THAT TEACHES ME NOTHING AND FRUSTRATES ME BECAUSE HOW WILL I BE READY FOR COLLEGE WITH SUCH LITTLE INFO. THEY PROVIDE US WITH????SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? ARE YOU DOING YOUR JOB? THERE ARE CHILDRN WHO ATTEND DAILY AND FALL BEHIND WHOS FAULT IS THAT?THERE ARE CHILDREN WHO BEARLY ATTEND AND ARE ABOVE AVERAGE STUDENTS WORKS TO EASY OR WHAT?MAYBE QUIT TRING TO CONTROL THE KIDS AND PARENTS AND RE-EDUCATE YOUR STAFF THAT IS YOUR JOB PARENTING IS OURS REMEMBER THAT.ALL THE BICKERING THAT GOES ON BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS and THE PARENTS DO YOU THINK THAT SHOWS CHILDREN ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE SCHOOL BOARD AND STAFF ONLY CONCIDER WHATS BEST FOR THEM NOT THE KIDS,SO HOW DO YOU EXPECT KIDS TO RESPECT ANY OF YOU OR WANT TO ATTEND YOUR CONTROLLED CLASSES? TIME TO CHANGE DONT YOU THINK.

[SRT]

Seeing as it's the law to go to school....
What a joke this post is.

[MR UNFAIR]

reason 2 bitch wrote:

I REALY CANT BELIEVE WHAT IVE JUST READ!YOU CAN NOT SERIOUSLY EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN!SCHOOLS HAVE BECOME PRISONS

Your babbling on about the "woes" of acheiving a high school education shows your intelligence and your teeny bop "age"....go ahead and try and miss 7 days of a college term class and see where it gets you on your exams...if you don't care, neither does the college professors, so long the school has your money.

I believe the point of acheiving a high school education is to prepare you for the rest of your life. And dealing with silly or even interesting classes are only a part of that education. You are also learning social skills and self discipline. And trying to keep kids from adpoting the "who cares" attitude is both a parent and the B-S school's responsibility. Once the kiddies reach the college or work level, its too late.

It takes SELF discipline to do things you may not like. BIG DEAL....Try working in the real world for 20-30 years then tell us how unfair the poor under privledged kiddies are being mistreated. Try missing 7 days of work a YEAR without any real excuse....and see how the company reacts.

So you have to learn a foreign language....so what, did you happen to notice this Country's businesses are pretty much financed by foreign companies which will affect your future as well as mine.

Maybe you should do some reading on how the Japanese educate their kids...they start at diaper age, the kids are schooled and cultured year round and drilled to the level of Asian "perfection". Getting anything lower than 100% is unacceptable and means failure...and this mentality is carried throughout a man's career.

Your comments basically shows me that you are NOT ready for college nor it's challenges let alone the real world.

[Another thought]

The sad thing is .... the school is the judge of what it deems excused. I for one have had to go head to head with the admin at the High School regarding attendence. I have a daughter who suffers from migranes and has on occassion missed a few days of school. The admin stated this was not excused and marked her absenses as unexcused. They said had I taken her to the doctor then it would have been excused.

Now here is the other side of the coin, every time I take her to the doctor it costs me 30 dollars. Why would I need to take her to her family doctor and pay for a slip of paper when I am able to care for her at home. The doctor already knows what she suffers from and agrees there is no reason to cause her more pain for a slip of paper and a visit.

By the way my daughter carries a 3.8 so no she is not skipping classes for the heck of it. Yet again the wonderful admin at the HS feels these are no reason for her to miss school

small town mentality I guess. But it is a shame indeed when the school has to force the parents to pay money for visists taht are not necessary, talk about health care inflation

[SRT]

I'm sure it would be easy for you to get an excuse if you needed it, even a generic one for the Dr. saying she may miss from time to time. This isn't about kids like your daughter. That's why I'm sure your problem can be easily fixed. This is about those kids who just "don't feel like it."

[Critical Thinking]

It sounds like it is a tricky situation. I agree that there has to be more researching into the situation. I also believe that more parents need to voice their opinion and solutions on the problem of attendance. In my opinion an adminstrator should adminstrate the policies decided on by the school board and not the other way around.

I think correcting other areas into this problem may better intice students with attendance problems to miss less school. One of those areas is how does a student able to maintain a high GPA with missing seven or more days of school in a quarter. The two have to concide with each other. If a student can miss forty or more days out of one hundred and eighty and still maintain a 3.5 GPA or better is ridiculous. From an academic view point this is a subpar performance on behave of the school. If a student is missing a lot of school then not only should the parents feel pressure from breaking the law but also from the fact that their son or daugther is failing academically and will not pass. So I believe if these two are in line with each other then having a attendance policy with an accentive clause to attend would not be needed.

The other issue I noticed with this proposed policy change is that when do you determine that a parent or parents are not telling the truth and writing bogus excuses. That is a bold general statment to make about parents. I mean is this a big problem at Blaitsville. Maybe CYS and the court should have satelite offices located in the high school. No, wait a minute, maybe not just yet. Lets explore other avenues first. For example, maybe comparing the grading system to the ease of curriculum would help as discussed above. Is the school adminstration staffed adequately enough to deal with daily adminstrative tasks. What has been so far to deal with students who have exceesive absentees. Have the parents and the school been actively involved togehter to find a solution. Has the school board been actively involved to find a solution. Finally, how do we know that this proposed plan will correct the absentee problem. These are some things that should be looked at.

[dreamer]

my child has missed numerous days 40+,and yes we have paid a fine evan though he maintains a 3.8 gpa, reason for missing mostly due to dental problems and fixing them and being bored out of his mind. yes we all know its the law and its to prepare for college and work place..but are day long assemblys nessesary, or 2+ study halls in a row,or how about those field trips,regardless of the reason why kids miss if they maintain a good gpa and dont cause any problems why should any child be failed from an education for attendance.i can see why since my children have been attending B/S why more parents home school...we are now considering this.

[Mrs J]

Although the article is referring to failing students who miss 7 or more days "UN-excused", 40 days whether excused or not excused is A LOT in my opinion. Curious to know how someone could miss 40 give or take days for dental work? Could the student not report back to school after appointment, or go to school and leave early for appointment? And how were the appointments not excused? And, again my opinion, bored is not a valid excuse unless a student has a perfect 4.0 GPA. Then, in that case, yes a student who can not do any better could be bored.
I agree with MR UNFAIR above, try missing more than alloted days a job and see what happens.

[MR UNFAIR]

dreamer wrote:

my child has missed numerous days 40+,.....why should any child be failed from an education for attendance. i can see why since my children have been attending B/S why more parents home school...we are now considering this.

You still don't get it. The whole purpose of attendance is a part of a student's school life and becoming a young RESPONSIBLE adult. Tossing out the GPA excuse is letting the child know they really do not have to participate in day to day events as all the others and follow school attendance rules.

So why should he be penalized, well if your child misses 40 days of classes in college, I bet you his GPA would be a challenge even to reach a 2.0 and possibly put on probation. If your young adult misses 40 days of unexcused work, he would be terminated.

Letting your child stay home "being bored" because they have a head-ache or a tooth-ache or butt-ache without seeing a Dr is pruning them for their adult future of "who cares".

I can understand if any student had SERIOUS health issues that caused them to miss many days but of course, under a Doctor's care and written excuse. Any School administration would be willing to work with the parents on how to handle the MAKE UP work as the child is recovering under a Dr's care. You didn't seem to mention that.

And home schooling is your call as the parent but you do realize that you would become the administration dept. coordinating the child's progress with the PA dept of Education, setting the school standards and rules at home while also being the teacher. The burden is all on you and the discipline comes from you. Successful home schoolers I personally know had to be social with other home schoolers, taking FIELD TRIPS and attending other socials was just as important as teaching for the child.

I doubt very much missing 40 days of home schooling would be that much different than public school as there is the responsibility of making up the lost time of the education process.

[dreamer]

the whole point of this artical is who has the right to tell any one we will fail your child for missed days...dont bring college or job force into it its obvious you will lose your job and possibly flunk out of college but thats the childs choice????correct not some admin. telling not just the child but the parent as well what to do....schools were begun to educate not imprisonment and play god. and for some familys they make just above the amount of money to receive any health benifits and some jobs dont offer them so if the school wants excuses for every missed day and are going to fail your child than they should take on the med. bills as well if you want to play parent than you should help with the cost.we all are intitled to are opinions and if you bare a child carry it for nine months teach it and raise it untill school age doing a fine job all that time your child is respectfull and good than what right does some admin. have to pull that kind of crap over missed days.there are rules to be fallowed i agree but these prison like conditions are unnessary...why not concintrate on putting religion back in school ,better food progrms,music and art classes that are fun and stimulating for all ages,hire healthy fit teachers who know and want to teach better [not just for the fact of a job],bring back fun ways to have fund raisers [not cataloge sales ,gift wrap please]invole kids of any age make them feel like there is a real goal to shot for and help them develope self worth see what happens.

[MR UNFAIR]

dreamer wrote:

the whole point of this artical is who has the right to tell any one we will fail your child for missed days...dont bring college or job force into it its obvious you will lose your job and possibly flunk out of college but thats the childs choice????

The WHOLE point of penalizing a student for missing a number UNEXCUSED days per term is only to mold a better student and not a prison camp like you put it. You apparently do not agree with disciplining a child for stepping around the rules for any governing body.

How the hell do you expect a child to grow up in this world if you are going to set an example of belly aching about getting penalized for missing a number of UNEXCUSED absences in grade school. That has nothing to do with anyone's income. That is a cheap excuse for a parent to use for their child and giving the child a mind set of using the everthing is "UNFAIR" card.

So you don't like the administration telling your kid what to do and not to do. What about the football coach or the basketball coach or the track coach or the band director or the director of a play?? How do you handle a coach or any other after school adult telling your kid what to do and when to show up for practice? Don't show up for practice and you get penalized. None of these extracurricular activities have anything to do with your GPA but those kids are told what to do and even disciplined without your presence.

Setting a strong example and showing discipline is what builds character in a child's life, not whining about how unfair everything is. That is what makes a student a better young adult in COLLEGE and IN THE WORK FORCE. A child's self worth is only a reflection of their parents. You apparently don't get it.

dreamer wrote:

why not concintrate on putting religion back in school .........

Which one..last time I checked we are not a THEOCRACY, so which "oneS" would like to introduce. That comment opens another pandora's box and doesn't really have much to do with self worth. Maybe you ought to try a Catholic school and see how they set rules and discipline their students.

[Former Saltsburger]

I don't see how anyone can miss that many days of school and still have a good GPA. Being bored with school is not an excuse. The parent(s) and student both need to be responsible. I don't believe that homeschooling is an option. School aged children need to interact with their peers. That's how they get ready for the real world. "Dreamer" needs a good dose of reality.

[dreamer]

MR UNFAIR wrote:

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The WHOLE point of penalizing a student for missing a number UNEXCUSED days per term is only to mold a better student and not a prison camp like you put it. You apparently do not agree with disciplining a child for stepping around the rules for any governing body.
How the hell do you expect a child to grow up in this world if you are going to set an example of belly aching about getting penalized for missing a number of UNEXCUSED absences in grade school. That has nothing to do with anyone's income. That is a cheap excuse for a parent to use for their child and giving the child a mind set of using the everthing is "UNFAIR" card.
So you don't like the administration telling your kid what to do and not to do. What about the football coach or the basketball coach or the track coach or the band director or the director of a play?? How do you handle a coach or any other after school adult telling your kid what to do and when to show up for practice? Don't show up for practice and you get penalized. None of these extracurricular activities have anything to do with your GPA but those kids are told what to do and even disciplined without your presence.
Setting a strong example and showing discipline is what builds character in a child's life, not whining about how unfair everything is. That is what makes a student a better young adult in COLLEGE and IN THE WORK FORCE. A child's self worth is only a reflection of their parents. You apparently don't get it.
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Which one..last time I checked we are not a THEOCRACY, so which "oneS" would like to introduce. That comment opens another pandora's box and doesn't really have much to do with self worth. Maybe you ought to try a Catholic school and see how they set rules and discipline their students.

well you obvious seem to think you know everything,and if the admin. is so right in there ideas of how to solve a problem with attendance when they are unable to solve any thing else than explain why its got to this point,dont give me BS about belly acheing either bottom line B/S SCHOOL DISTRIC is rediculous.oh and mr un fair i attendented catholic school and my nieces do now and they dont have these problems because they[scool board ,admin., teachers] are respected i also have a son who went to college and graduted and made deans list who is employed and doing very well no thanks to the B/S education he recieved he was allowed to skip classes miss days with no questions asked why he was a football player who fallowed the rules so MR thinks he knows it all [you dont] and dont judge me as a parent ive done well and my kids will be fine too no thanks to people like you and your retarded factless statements.small school small minded teachers and faculty except for a handfull who really try to encourage and teach.and since you know everything maybe you can explain school shootings i suppose thats the parents fault too????

[dreamer]

Former Saltsburger wrote:

I don't see how anyone can miss that many days of school and still have a good GPA. Being bored with school is not an excuse. The parent(s) and student both need to be responsible. I don't believe that homeschooling is an option. School aged children need to interact with their peers. That's how they get ready for the real world. "Dreamer" needs a good dose of reality.

ahhhh former saltsburger ive read the replies you have to the things that go on here and your opinion doesnt mean anything to me, a dose of reality is: the reason why your a former saltsburger that says it all????and home schooling is a wonderfull thing for kids and parents you idiot there is more interaction with a better class of people and children you as a parent get more time with your child and stride to work for whats best for them.so scamper back and worry about were you live. its not like you can do any good here.

[Former Saltsburger]

Dreamer-I really don't care what you think of me as you have no bearing on my life. I am free to voice my opinions about Saltsburg. Just because I don't have a Saltsburg address, doesn't mean I don't pay taxes in Saltsburg. I still own property there.

I really feel sorry for anyone that you may be teaching. Your grammar skills are dreadful. Your parents must have wasted money on the Catholic school you attended.
I am sure that home schooling may be extra parent/child time. However, what about the time that your child needs to be with his/her peers in school based environment? These types of settings help children interact with people in the real world.

It seems to me that you are defensive about your parenting decisions. You need to be aware of the fact that you child is taking his/her cues from you. You don't think that missing 40 days of school is a big deal and neither does your child. Think about his/her future. Do you want you child to grow up without any life skills? He or she will have a very rough adult life.

[UNDREAMER]

Former Saltsburger wrote:

Dreamer-I really don't care what you think of me as you have no bearing on my life. I am free to voice my opinions about Saltsburg. Just because I don't have a Saltsburg address, doesn't mean I don't pay taxes in Saltsburg. I still own property there.
I really feel sorry for anyone that you may be teaching. Your grammar skills are dreadful. Your parents must have wasted money on the Catholic school you attended.
I am sure that home schooling may be extra parent/child time. However, what about the time that your child needs to be with his/her peers in school based environment? These types of settings help children interact with people in the real world.
It seems to me that you are defensive about your parenting decisions. You need to be aware of the fact that you child is taking his/her cues from you. You don't think that missing 40 days of school is a big deal and neither does your child. Think about his/her future. Do you want you child to grow up without any life skills? He or she will have a very rough adult life.

I agree with you, DREAMER is a Dreamer living her life in a plastic bubble. Everyone is out to get her and her kid for missing 40+ days and the public school kids at BS are being sentenced to prison by the evil school system. I think I should be able to take 40 days off work just because...whatever. I vote for that one.

This person can't even type out a decent conversation and look at her sentence structure let alone spelling and she wants to teach....ha!

Run for the hills kids. A DREAMER is on the loose.

[lucy]

UNDREAMER wrote:

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I agree with you, DREAMER is a Dreamer living her life in a plastic bubble. Everyone is out to get her and her kid for missing 40+ days and the public school kids at BS are being sentenced to prison by the evil school system. I think I should be able to take 40 days off work just because...whatever. I vote for that one.
This person can't even type out a decent conversation and look at her sentence structure let alone spelling and she wants to teach....ha!
Run for the hills kids. A DREAMER is on the loose.

grow up no one is making excuses for any thing except IN MY OPINION an adm. has no right to flunk a child for attend. and being a ass about how or what i type is not the issue,so basically your statement is just another idiot trying to only see one side of the story and if you were as smart as you think, you wouldnt be working for someone else try running your own business i do and i can take off 40 days cause i have people like you working for me and my kids! dream on.

[dreamer]

sorry luc i forgot to log you off.

[Former Saltsburger]

I hate to burst your bubble, but I am self-employed. I have a very successful business with many clients who depend on me to show up for work everyday. So I guess you don't have people like me working for you and your kids.

This forum is about people's opinions. However, other people are writing their opinions and you want to call them an idiot and an ass. You are making yourself look like an ass. You're bitching because people are voicing their opinion about a child missing 40 days of school. You act as if everyone is picking on you for your grammar. If you want to act like you are better than everyone and you have all the answers, learn how to write. Because of your posts, the only one sounding like an idiot here is you.

I don't think anyone on here claims that they are a better person or parent than you. I don't think that I am better than anyone else. I wasn't raised that way. However, when someone is questioning your judgement or voicing their own opinion, you act like a child. Maybe you should just read some of this advice. Look at what your children's lack of education could do to them. I hope that you would want your kids to succeed in life and have a better life than you've had. I know that is what I want for my kids.

[Amy]

Captain Phuckyou wrote:

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You are a jerkoff. All your posts are about kiddie rumors. I pity anyone who pays you to do anything but be a moron.

I pity your parents. They must be ashamed of themselves for producing you!