dollop

Jamestown, TN

#1 May 21, 2009
Which fuel stations in town sell gasoline without ethanol. And, usually has a good price on mid-grade fuel. On Rush Limbaughs' radio show, he reported major damage being done to engines around the country from ethanol and the mainstream media not saying anything about it. I want to switch to straight gas.

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#2 May 21, 2009
dollop wrote:
Which fuel stations in town sell gasoline without ethanol. And, usually has a good price on mid-grade fuel. On Rush Limbaughs' radio show, he reported major damage being done to engines around the country from ethanol and the mainstream media not saying anything about it. I want to switch to straight gas.
There are other negatives that have not been reported in the news.

Since: Mar 08

Jamestown

#3 May 22, 2009
It isn't in town but Burnett's had a sign up saying no ethanol. Only one I have seen.

“www.tntaxrevolt. org”

Since: Oct 08

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#4 May 22, 2009
Companies with truck fleets are reporting that since they went to gasoline with ethanol their repair bills and truck service costs have increased and engines are getting shorter lifespans.

I heard on the local TV last week that a town in Virginia is no longer allowing ethanol based fuels in their county and city vehicles due to the problems it has been causing them.
dollop

Jamestown, TN

#5 May 22, 2009
How about the farmers co-op? Any ethanol in their gas?
dollop

Jamestown, TN

#6 May 22, 2009
I called the Farmers co-op a few minutes ago. They said absolutely no Ethanol in their fuel. LOL, the man on the phone chuckled and said they would have a grudge against someone if Ethanol was in their fuel.
hollow-man

Allardt, TN

#7 May 22, 2009
i have and still do run ethanol in mine and no problems a lot of this is bull. there are some that don;t want change would rather give their money to big oil.
dollop

Jamestown, TN

#8 May 22, 2009
When using a gasoline with 10% Ethanol, my computer tells me 14.5 mpg. That is down from 18 mpg with 100% gasoline. Highway mileage.

“www.tntaxrevolt. org”

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#9 May 22, 2009
hollow-man wrote:
i have and still do run ethanol in mine and no problems a lot of this is bull. there are some that don;t want change would rather give their money to big oil.
Big oil makes the same amount of profit from a gallon of gas whether it is $1/gallon or $4/gallon. the GOVT makes 6 times the profit from a gallon of gas than the "big oil" companies make.

Post the truth or do not post anything at all. The only thing "hollow" about you is your head.

Since: Jun 08

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#10 May 22, 2009
There seems to be some indication that maybe ethanol is not as good as it seems.

By now you may have heard of the economic questions regarding using corn for ethanol production, but less attention has been paid to the environmental impact of using ethanol as an alternative to gasoline. Is ethanol more of a pollutant than gasoline? Surprisingly, the science says yes.

According to our Expert, who holds a PhD in Biochemical Engineering, a Master’s degree in Chemical Engineering, and has over 40 years experience performing biotechnology, bioengineering, and bioprocess research, both ethanol and gasoline deliver the same amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) into the atmosphere per gallon consumed. However, when compared on a per mile driven basis, burning ethanol actually produces 54% more CO2 as global warming pollutant than gasoline due to the fact that ethanol has lower fuel efficiency.

For the science buffs out there, the energy production produced by burning materials is proportional to the molecules of oxygen used. Here are the chemical formulas for the energy produced by burning octane via gasoline and by burning glucose via ethanol.

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Something to think about.

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#11 May 22, 2009
Study out of Stanford says pollution from ethanol
could end up creating a worse hazard than gasoline.
- San Francisco Chronicle April 18, 2007

If ethanol ever gains widespread use as a clean alternative fuel to gasoline, people with respiratory illnesses may be in trouble.

A new study out of Stanford says pollution from ethanol could end up creating a worse health hazard than gasoline, especially for people with asthma and other respiratory diseases.

"Ethanol is being promoted as a clean and renewable fuel that will reduce global warming and air pollution," Mark Z. Jacobson, the study's author and an atmospheric scientist at Stanford, said in a statement. "But our results show that a high blend of ethanol poses an equal or greater risk to public health than gasoline, which already causes significant health damage."

The study appears in today's online edition of Environmental Science & Technology, a publication of the American Chemical Society. It comes at a time when the Bush administration is pushing plans to boost ethanol production and the nation's automakers are required by 2012 to have half their vehicles run on flex fuel, allowing the use of either gasoline or ethanol.

Jacobson used a computer to model how pollution from ethanol fuel would affect different parts of the country in 2020, when ethanol-burning vehicles are expected to be common on America's roadways.

He found that ethanol-burning cars could boost levels of toxic ozone gas in urban areas, but that Los Angeles residents would be by far the hardest hit because of the city's reliance on the automobile and environmental factors that tend to concentrate smog there.

His study showed that the city would experience a 9 percent increase in the rate of ozone-related respiratory deaths -- 120 more deaths per year -- compared with what would have been projected in 2020 assuming continued gasoline use.

Pollution from ethanol would be more risky than pollution from gasoline because when ethanol breaks down in the atmosphere, it generates considerably more ozone. Ozone is a highly corrosive gas that damages the delicate tissues of the lungs. In fact, it's so corrosive that it can crack rubber and wear away statues, Jacobson told The Chronicle.

Jacobson's study focuses on the health effects of an ethanol type called "E85," a highly publicized fuel composed of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline.

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Another study on ethanols negative side.
Traver

Barnardsville, NC

#12 May 22, 2009
What! A government idea that doesn't work?

Since: Jun 08

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#13 May 22, 2009
Traver wrote:
What! A government idea that doesn't work?
I know what you mean. I was totally disillusioned.
dollop

Jamestown, TN

#14 May 23, 2009
Great Info G.H.

I think the Federal Government operates under the mantra, let's do something even if it's wrong.

Since: Jun 08

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#15 May 23, 2009
dollop wrote:
Great Info G.H.
I think the Federal Government operates under the mantra, let's do something even if it's wrong.
I think that they may operate under a little different saying. Let's do something even though we know it is wrong. Kind of fits Obamas "change".
wants more

Jamestown, TN

#16 May 23, 2009
And their are studies from the 1970's and 80's that said we would have total thermal breakdown. Stop listening to agenda based rhetoric. I knew a man that used satraight alcohol mixed with 1 quart of oil in his caddy, yes, the valve seals would dry out but man the car was real driver(power) and clean burning.
The oild companies started the mix when gas was above $4.00 and everybody was pointing fingers(me too) The were trying to stop the talk about profits and start the talk about clean burning.Do you believe they want ethanhol ?no way they do, I could see them watering dsown on purpose. Jet fuel can draw moisture, but i bet I can find someone who would say it was the paint on the outside of the tank that made it go bad. People have made small engines run exclusivly on ethanol.(BUT THAT DONT MAKE OIL COMPANIES MONEY DOES IT) so why would they allow the sale of alcohol at their pumps.
There are farmers in the U.S. that have put up their farms(lives) to start refineries, that the county, state, Federal Governmenst wouldn't lift a finger to help support. Africa and other countries said these farmers were devils and killers for raising the price of corn(AFRICA is the leaders in FREE corn meal from U.S.) to start something "GOOD" for the U.S. and themselves. But with total war on their efforts.
I f you have ever been around burning Alcohol and burning gasoline, you KNOW, that NOX2 is much higher for carbon.
Thats like astrologers looking at the moon and sun and saying, the earth MUST be flat. DUH
wants more

Jamestown, TN

#17 May 23, 2009
Green Hornet 007 wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what you mean. I was totally disillusioned.
It really bothers me, that you woulfd believe that a carbon based fuel would have lower effects than a plant based fuel. Man, their efforts ARE paying off. Just think if you could buy your fuel from some guy that had a shine business on the side of the road. They would have regulators at every corner.

Since: Jun 08

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#18 May 24, 2009
wants more wrote:
<quoted text>It really bothers me, that you woulfd believe that a carbon based fuel would have lower effects than a plant based fuel. Man, their efforts ARE paying off. Just think if you could buy your fuel from some guy that had a shine business on the side of the road. They would have regulators at every corner.
It is what the new studies are finding.Read the entire article and you will find that this scientist is considered the top in his field.
Honest Abe

Jamestown, TN

#19 May 25, 2009
Little Crab Bound wrote:
<quoted text>
Big oil makes the same amount of profit from a gallon of gas whether it is $1/gallon or $4/gallon. the GOVT makes 6 times the profit from a gallon of gas than the "big oil" companies make.
Post the truth or do not post anything at all. The only thing "hollow" about you is your head.
You are so full of shit,is this all you have to do all day.Where do you come up with this stupid
stuff anyway? My cars, trucks motorcycles,& lawn
mowers run great on Gas from any station.
If yours or anyone elses dont get them fixed.
All fules are tested by the state there sold in.

Since: Sep 09

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#20 Jul 17, 2012
New Ethanol-Blend Fuel Approved by EPA Can Damage Car Engines, Group Warns
By Kendra Alleyne
July 16, 2012
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( CNSNews.com )– A new blend of gasoline comprising 15 percent ethanol, approved by the Environmental Protection Agency last month and now available in Kansas, could damage automobile engines, the Kansas Petroleum Council is warning.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/new-ethanol-b...

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