Pa. town aches as plant closes after ...

Pa. town aches as plant closes after 105 years

There are 27 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Jun 18, 2010, titled Pa. town aches as plant closes after 105 years. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

There's a hum here, soft yet ever-present. The noise is drowned out during the din of the day, but late at night the sound of the Owens-Illinois glass plant reverberates through this town of 6,000 people.

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john doe 000069

York, PA

#1 Jun 19, 2010
Why should a company pay a jerk $30 an hour when they can get better work overseas for a fraction of the cost? This is yet another reason that labor unions need to be shut down. Let's have a pitty party for all the worthless union workers. Unions are ruining this country. If they would shut all the unions down it would be a lot cheaper to live. The unions are what are killing the postal service. The lowest paid city postal worker pay grade 1 step A makes $1638.85 every other week.
Lapse of reason

Spring Grove, PA

#2 Jun 19, 2010
john doe 000069 wrote:
Why should a company pay a jerk $30 an hour when they can get better work overseas for a fraction of the cost? This is yet another reason that labor unions need to be shut down. Let's have a pitty party for all the worthless union workers. Unions are ruining this country. If they would shut all the unions down it would be a lot cheaper to live. The unions are what are killing the postal service. The lowest paid city postal worker pay grade 1 step A makes $1638.85 every other week.
You are really, I mean really f-king stupid. how much did a Hershey bar drop in price since they moved to Mexico ?

Maybe your idea of a booming economy is everyone making poverty wages at the local burger joint because their to lazy and stupid to get a real job.....like you.
seitzland resident

New Freedom, PA

#3 Jun 19, 2010
I doubt very seriously if the overseas plant will produce a better quality product. Cheaper yes. Now we have to worry about the products we consume from glass containers having traces of lead etc in them. China will do anything to lower cost including using dangerous and inferior raw materials. Maybe we should push for laws indicating where the containers our food comes in was made. If not made in the USA then we should not buy it. Speak up america the dollar runs this world and if do not buy a certain product big business will get the message.
Local

Spring Grove, PA

#4 Jun 19, 2010
Unfortunately, youre not going to stop corp. greed, or them moving to other countries. Unless you change trade laws, things will remain the same.
john doe 000069

York, PA

#5 Jun 19, 2010
Lapse of reason wrote:
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You are really, I mean really f-king stupid. how much did a Hershey bar drop in price since they moved to Mexico ?
Maybe your idea of a booming economy is everyone making poverty wages at the local burger joint because their to lazy and stupid to get a real job.....like you.
Sorry. But you lack reason. I just love how more and more businesses are using Harley Davidson's model to pay workers what they want. They have enough money to build a plant in another state or country. Especially where the labor is cheap. Do you know before the Harley workers signed the new labor deal they were allowed to come into work drunk. They could tell their union steward they were too drunk to work. The stupid union got them a taxi to take them home. They actually paid them for the entire day as if they worked. This one Harley looser actually got busted stealing parts from the plant and selling them on Ebay. The stupid union actually spent thousands to support this jerk. The mayor in Lancaster, Pa said unless some fire fighters took early retirement that he would have to lay 3 or 4 fire fighters off. When enough fire fighters didn't take early retirement or shift changes the may had no choice but to lay off 3 or 4 fire fighters. Their so called union brothers voted to keep their jobs. That really set well with the fire fighters that lost their jobs. On fire fighter had just found out he had a baby on the way. Great. During the big snow storms of February of this year a person called 911 to get help. He was in pain. He waited and waited but know one came. He ended up passing away. The ambulance that was to respond never did their jobs. Their crooked union mob boss would not even write them up. They never got in trouble. There were some emt's in a New York Mc Donald's when a person collapsed and they just walked right past her. When an employee yelled at them to help the woman. The emt's responded by telling the worker to call 911. When cops break the law they get sent home with pay. I think Cheif Childs is one of them. He did something wrong and while they are investigating the complaint he is home with pay. I could go on and on with proof that unions need to go because they are worthless. These are just a couple I could think of. I don't feel sorry at all about they lazy workers. I love it when I hear about a bunch of lazy union workers loosing their jobs. I just love what GM did to workers at a truck plant in Ohio just before Christmas. They told them that they are closing the plant as we don't need you anymore. It was really neat to see all the union workers crying. What are we going to do? They worked there since they were 18. They have to go from making $60 an hour to $10 if they are lucky. I was laughing at those bums in Ohio.
Local

Spring Grove, PA

#6 Jun 19, 2010
john doe 000069, im sorry but youre an idiot. When you have big numbers of blue collar workers going backwards, they take the rest of society with them.
john doe 000069

York, PA

#7 Jun 19, 2010
Local wrote:
john doe 000069, im sorry but youre an idiot. When you have big numbers of blue collar workers going backwards, they take the rest of society with them.
You're the idiot. Bunch of worthless overpaid lazy union workers.
Royersford Rocket

Hanover, PA

#8 Jun 19, 2010
I guess around 10-15 years ago Diamond Glass closed in Royersford. Now the factory is an apartment building. Might be a condo? Don't know for sure.

Glass bottles were made there. If you turn a bottle upside down, you'd see a diamond logo.
Pete Saunders

AOL

#9 Jun 21, 2010
Use common sense please. When shipping plastic and glass containers around the world the majority of the shipping cost is for "air". Bottles are lightweight but take up space. It is logical to have your production operations close to customers (container users) because to not do so means that the one making the most money is the freight company. Having a manufacturing plant on each continent in a stragically-located and tax-advantaged country just makes sense. It's not about quality - anybody using the same materials, molding and extruding machines, can produce the same quality.
noname

Fairfield, IA

#10 Jun 21, 2010
john doe 000069 wrote:
Why should a company pay a jerk $30 an hour when they can get better work overseas for a fraction of the cost? This is yet another reason that labor unions need to be shut down. Let's have a pitty party for all the worthless union workers. Unions are ruining this country. If they would shut all the unions down it would be a lot cheaper to live. The unions are what are killing the postal service. The lowest paid city postal worker pay grade 1 step A makes $1638.85 every other week.
Why should I pay taxes to keep a jerk like you working in this country when you would be much happier overseas getting paid a lower rate and making inferior product. YOU DONT LIKE THIS COUNTRY GET OUT AND DONT LET LADY LIBERTY KICK YOU IN THE A** ON THE WAY OUT!
A former OI

United States

#11 Jun 26, 2010
John Doe I agree with others you need to go overseas and stay there! I am being cut from my livelyhood and do not make $30 an hour! I was in the union and it kept me a great job for 8 years! It doesn't matter union or not, there are plants closing down all around us and going overseas! It's the CEO's that don't give a rats a-- bout the workers or quality products! We will have to b very cautious of what we eat from! Contamintaions will go sky high! We had very strict restristions and rules! Do you think that other countries making these products getting zilch pay will give a crap what goes into that container! Ask yourself where will this country be in a few years if we don't keep jobs in OUR country?! The unions have fought long and hard to do so! What about you? Or would you sit back and just complain about what is happening!? I suggest you start paying attention to what the future holds for everyone! And you are yapping about lazy! I can only imagine what you do for a living if anything at all! The CEO's are getting paid for what? Start on those ppl not the blue collar workers that actually put in a days work!
infuriated daughter

Saint Marys, PA

#12 Jun 26, 2010
Ok, "John Doe". I have so many things that I would love to say to you right now. There is something seriously wrong with you. These "jerks" that you are talking about are honest people who are working to support themselves and their families. Now that the plant is closing in Clarion and opening several factories in China, hundreds of these honest, hard working people--including my father who has worked there for the past 35 years--are pretty much being kicked to the curb and told to start their careers all over again. My dad has used his many years at the plant to bust his ass to get the union position he has. Obviously you're just upset that you're not qualified enough to have such a position, or I'm sure you wouldn't feel this way about it. America is still going through a recession and you want to take away the few jobs that people can count on here and send them overseas? I agree with the comment above mine. If you like the idea of sending work to other countries so much, then bon voyage!!in
john doe 000069

York, PA

#13 Jun 26, 2010
A former OI wrote:
John Doe I agree with others you need to go overseas and stay there! I am being cut from my livelyhood and do not make $30 an hour! I was in the union and it kept me a great job for 8 years! It doesn't matter union or not, there are plants closing down all around us and going overseas! It's the CEO's that don't give a rats a-- bout the workers or quality products! We will have to b very cautious of what we eat from! Contamintaions will go sky high! We had very strict restristions and rules! Do you think that other countries making these products getting zilch pay will give a crap what goes into that container! Ask yourself where will this country be in a few years if we don't keep jobs in OUR country?! The unions have fought long and hard to do so! What about you? Or would you sit back and just complain about what is happening!? I suggest you start paying attention to what the future holds for everyone! And you are yapping about lazy! I can only imagine what you do for a living if anything at all! The CEO's are getting paid for what? Start on those ppl not the blue collar workers that actually put in a days work!
You didn't make $30 an hour?! Then you must have had a been part of a worthless union. I once worked for a warehouse company. They were a part of some sort of warehouse union but they made just a little over $6 an hour. It was a weak union. Another thing I feel I made really clear is the fact I don't like it when a lazy union worker does something wrong and the union worker gets to keep their job. Union works greed is what causes companies to move overseas.
Sam

Red Lion, PA

#14 Jun 26, 2010
John Doe: Your on here constantly putting the union people down,either you got laid off where you work, or are management since you have so much time posting on here! Get a life, and get your fat a@@ off social security, or is it welfare? Guess whatever it is, your happy enough, you have internet access to hide behind!!! COWARD!!! Someone put a toe tag on this JERK,he wants to be called John Doe so bad, make it happen!!!!
pro stick racing

Gettysburg, PA

#15 Jun 26, 2010
john doe,you say all kinds of negative things about these people, when all you had to do is join the union, or else go get a job at the harley plant. no one is stopping you. you keep crying about the union workers and how it was a week union. did you try to make it stronger? no? i didn't think so. and your answer is no... i don't have a union job, and i still clear $70,000 a year working for D.O.D. and my wife does the same working for the hospital. it's call education. get one, and you to can make money. i'm sick and tired of everyone wanting everything handed to them. i was listed as a handicap, after breaking my back in 3 places. after rehab, it was back to school... at age 30. i bounced back, and refused hand outs... yea, you got it... i'm a dumb farm boy who wanted something better out of life. i don't care how broke you are, there are programs that can work for you. most don't have to be paid back till you start work. so unless you were planning on taking a union job don't cry about the ones who do. you mean to tell me that if they offered you a $30.00 an hour job.... you would just up and turn it down or walk away. if you said yes, then you deserve to work... IN ANOTHER COUNTRY!
Publius Novus

Centreville, VA

#16 Jun 27, 2010
john doe 000069 wrote:
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You're the idiot. Bunch of worthless overpaid lazy union workers.
You are a corporate lackey. Plain and simple. In order for market capitalism to function, the workers must be paid a wage sufficient to permit them to consume the products and services they produce. Henry Ford demonstrated that when workers are paid a decent wage, they will produce more and become a market themselves. They will also resist joining unions because the need to do so does not exist. The opposite is also true. But then, you probably think Henry Ford was a socialist.
pro stick racing

Gettysburg, PA

#17 Jun 27, 2010
i'm not sure he understands Publius Novus, you used alot of very large words there. that may keep him busy for the next few days. i hope his computer can handle all this activity. does he realize that the person who built his computer and designed it, not alone the time it took to set it up.... was done by someone making a few bucks more than min. wage. this guy is a lazy a!! and wants to blame everyone else for his lack of actions. i'm sure he has good intentions of looking for a good job... till the alarm goes off.
Gin45

Hershey, PA

#18 Jun 27, 2010
Resist the incapacitation of America. Don't buy at Walmart, Target, or any large box store. In fact go downtown and support your local mernchant. Buy local if possible, and always American. If you buy from here the money will stay here. It is about time we get back to some basics with our buying tendencies. I see many small towns in similar fates.....we will be forced into third world conditions if we don't kick China to the curb. If we need something then we will make it, it is about time the man who makes something is valued over the paper pusher.
fire marshal bill

York, PA

#19 Jun 27, 2010
Lapse of reason wrote:
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You are really, I mean really f-king stupid. how much did a Hershey bar drop in price since they moved to Mexico ?
Maybe your idea of a booming economy is everyone making poverty wages at the local burger joint because their to lazy and stupid to get a real job.....like you.
The only reason that the price did not drop is because they have to pay a UNION member tractor trailer driver to drive them back here from Mexico.
fire marshal bill

York, PA

#20 Jun 27, 2010
Don't ya just love those Teamsters keeping products affordable?

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