Clarion man faces criminal charges

Clarion man faces criminal charges

There are 37 comments on the The Derrick story from Sep 30, 2008, titled Clarion man faces criminal charges. In it, The Derrick reports that:

Benjamin Baumcratz, 28, allegedly tried to set another man on fire. A Clarion man is facing charges of attempted homicide in connection with an incident last weekend at a Clarion Township residence along Day ...

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rukidding

Austin, TX

#21 Jun 4, 2009
rolfcoptor wrote:
Wow, rumors? We know those are never ever spread out of spite! I'm sure you have an unbiased source.
Seriously, it's your son's life. Get out of his life and his ex girlfriend's. Don't support them. Ignore them. They deserve it, right?
I mean, you believe the girlfriend is a slut and couldn't possibly know the paternity of either of her children. So ignore her and leave her alone.
Your son tried to burn down your house and kill your husband. Cut him out of your life. He's obviously insane. How about getting a restraining order? That would be the logical thing to do.
Or continue acting like a five-year-old. I mean, you love the drama, don't you?
This is the kind of response you get from somebody who has no clue what has been going on and has no children of her own or has them but gives less than a ?!@##.If you knew what was going on you would know that the slut has been left alone she is the one causing the uproar and you would also know that there is a restraining order and has been. I know who you are shame on you!!!
rolfcoptor

Southgate, MI

#22 Jun 4, 2009
Who am I?:)

I think constantly writing crap about her on the Internet isn't leaving her alone. But, you know, that's just me. What do I know?

Just let it go. Ben's been sentenced. You got what you want. Justice has been served and he will pay his debt to society.

Just ignore Miranda instead of spouting crap on the Internet about her. If she's begging for attention and trying to stir stuff up, she wins if you pay attention.

Or just keep bathing in the attention you're getting on the Internet. Actually, I know of some other sites if you want even more attention. You might even become Internet famous. Start putting up YouTube videos!
rolfcoptor

Southgate, MI

#23 Jun 4, 2009
And just for your information, even though you're on the Internet, slander is still illegal. If you're just spreading rumors, you can have charges pressed. So I'd think twice before accusing people of not knowing who their kids' fathers are.

And if you went through a proxy server to post what you have, it'll just mean that you knew what you were doing is wrong. It can still be traced back to you.

The Internet is not truly anonymous. It's pretty invasive, actually.
jennifer robinson

Brookville, PA

#24 Jun 5, 2009
I was standing out said of kellys house one day and miranda drove by and gave us all the finger when there was kids standing there seening all of this now who is still eggin this shit on and in my eyes if you don"t have enough ass to give you name then you are not important to us so i"m going to give you my name becaues i am not scared it is jennifer robinson . And i think the shit needs to stop and everyone and you no who you are needs to grow up and act there age and not there I Q.And Miranda i have done so much for you and you are going to do baby shit like this then i don't need you as a friend I watch your kids for you let you stay w me and got SHIT on that is the thanks i get.Kelly and Denni are nice people thay say nothing to me about you they just want to be left alone. I don't think that is alot to ask for So stop the bullshit and move on w your life and take care of your kids. becaues that should be your frist priority then the games you are playing w Kelly and Denni.
rolfcoptor

Southgate, MI

#25 Jun 8, 2009
Lern2grammer Lern2spel

roflcoptor
rukidding

Austin, TX

#26 Jun 8, 2009
rolfcoptor wrote:
Lern2grammer Lern2spel
roflcoptor
OK L leave it alone!
loving bistandard

Nevada, IA

#27 Jun 23, 2009
wow im sooo glad you care about ben and his children so much!!!!!! THAT IS WHY YOU LEFT HIM WHEN HE NEEDED YOU MOST!!!!! I'm sure he appreciates his family even more now that he sees what a rotten person u truly r!!! it is good that you r letting him "move on" as always im always there for those people that r living life for the rite reasons...ben his family and friends still remain in my thoughts and prayers!
jennifer robinson

Lexington, KY

#28 Jun 24, 2009
Who are you talking about bistandard?
rolfcoptor

Southgate, MI

#29 Jun 24, 2009
That's kinda crazy to hear because I heard Miranda actually visited Ben the Thursday before Father's Day. With Chloe. You know, the kid who isn't his.

I also hear that she writes to him and calls him. And that the engagement breaking was his idea. Sure, she went out with another person, but it was from Ben's encouragement.

But that's all hearsay. I'm sure people who have nothing better to do than to smear others' names know way more than I do, as I have more to do than to think up stuff to do to make others' lives more miserable.
rolfcoptor

Southgate, MI

#30 Jun 24, 2009
And I'm sure Ben "appreciating his family more" does him a load of good since he has, you know, a restraining order against seeing them.
real loving bistandard

Newton, IA

#31 Jul 5, 2009
ok just so everyone knows i am the original loviong bistandard the comment previously posted in that name was not written by me prolly just sumone looking for more drama...i have no problem with anyone involved in this situation i have only ever tried to do rite by all of you including miranda ben kelly and denny...this is my final post it is none of my business i hope for the best for all of you....p.s. the person imitating me was rude and uncalled for!!!! grow up!
Benjamin John Baumcratz

Altoona, PA

#32 Feb 18, 2010
I am the "crazy person" this whole thing has been about. For everyone's information I'm out of jail, with Miranda, with Joey and Chloe, and am living my life without any "family" who want to drag anyone I am close to threw the mud. I made a mistake. But the biggest one I made was to listen to my mother over Miranda. I did everything for my mother and this is what I got. 10 years probation, 1 year incarceration, 1 year parole, and the rest of my life without half of my family. It has been less stressful without that half for sure. I know I will be judged at the end of my days, but so will everyone else. Maybe the rest of my lost half of my family can run to Texas where someone cares.
mom

Lexington, KY

#33 Jul 29, 2010
well i see that he learnt nothing from his short stay in jail. i never drug his girlfriend or any of his other friends thru the mud. if i did i sure would not have cleaned her house kept her kids on no notice. got her and him things. paid their electric bill. gave him money when ever he needed it. did his laundry. then gave them a washer and dryer. i could go on and on but won't do that. i am trying to get over the fact that my own son tried to kill his step father and i. let alone set the garage and the house on fire then bragged about it. he got off very easy only serving 1 yr less 1 day in jail thanks to me. the DA wanted to throw the book at him and after several calls to the DA i convinced him to drop some and go for a lesser sentance. yes he will be judged at the end and i know in my heart he will one day realize that what he did was wrong and ask for forgiveness. not to us but to God above and hope he find a place in heaven. i am happy that things are so much less stressful for him. i always only wanted the best for him. and his children. and by the way his real son is fine. he asks about his dad but we just change the subject. can not figure out a good way to explain to him that he want nothing to do with him. that he gave him up for joey and his mother. i would love to go to texas and be with my sister but i wont walk away from my family here or my grandchildren. i only hope that one day he wake's up and realize that he has a wonderful son and hope that it is not too late. so i will move on with my life and live in fear that he will attack again. but i will always be his mom and i will never turn my back on his son. never have any of my children and i never will. so God watch over him and keep him safe till he gets over the anger that is in him and help him move on also.
doublesided

Lexington, KY

#34 Aug 12, 2010
There are two sides to every story and after reading all of this, it seems this story needs to be let go of. It's apparent that no one is going to agree on what is true and what is being strectched so why not let it go and just move on?
Involving children in this is petty and sad. I feel for everyone involved because "real" kids or not...kids are kids and want to be loved. No one but those that are involved themselves will understand why each person did what they did and why. It's time to make grown up decision and either move on or ask for forgiveness or both. Everyone involved seems petty currently and it's sad that innocent children must be drug out on the internet to "make a point".
I have kids of my own and I love them wholeheartedly. They are my life and they are the reason I smile. I think any true parent agrees but with tough situations comes tough choices. I don't care what my children to do me, I will love them. I don't care what my parents do to me, a part of me will always love them as well. It's the facts of life. If anyone is missing those feelings then they are not facing reality. As a mother I'm ashamed to see another mother post the very last post about her son in jail. He is a son and that is that. A loving mother doesn't keep egging it on, she loves him quietly and prays for him at night. A son that upset with his mother needs time to heal and time to grow. He apparently has a lot of things to work out and he will have to do that in his own time. Jail isn't the answer to solving probems....love is. I pray for all involved that they grow up and learn that everyone one of them will have regrets from this. Move on and love each other. You only live once and you are not guaranteed tomorrow, is it really worth the hurtful words and pain?
Benjamin John Baumcratz

Lexington, KY

#35 Aug 12, 2010
For all those who aren't involved in this, yes I still need time to get over this, no I don't contact Dakota, and according to the DA who took care of my case He told my lawyer that he has never saw a mother who cared less about there child. So maybe there is a strand of DNA in me that doesn't want to see one of my children. My Grandmother doesn't see her kids, my mother doesn't see most of her kids, and I don't see one of my "children". For all those who matter, my mother is Jayme Baumcratz. This will be the last entry by me, no matter what else is said.
Bobby

Brookville, PA

#36 Sep 7, 2010
mom wrote:
well i see that he learnt nothing from his short stay in jail. i never drug his girlfriend or any of his other friends thru the mud. if i did i sure would not have cleaned her house kept her kids on no notice. got her and him things. paid their electric bill. gave him money when ever he needed it. did his laundry. then gave them a washer and dryer. i could go on and on but won't do that. i am trying to get over the fact that my own son tried to kill his step father and i. let alone set the garage and the house on fire then bragged about it. he got off very easy only serving 1 yr less 1 day in jail thanks to me. the DA wanted to throw the book at him and after several calls to the DA i convinced him to drop some and go for a lesser sentance. yes he will be judged at the end and i know in my heart he will one day realize that what he did was wrong and ask for forgiveness. not to us but to God above and hope he find a place in heaven. i am happy that things are so much less stressful for him. i always only wanted the best for him. and his children. and by the way his real son is fine. he asks about his dad but we just change the subject. can not figure out a good way to explain to him that he want nothing to do with him. that he gave him up for joey and his mother. i would love to go to texas and be with my sister but i wont walk away from my family here or my grandchildren. i only hope that one day he wake's up and realize that he has a wonderful son and hope that it is not too late. so i will move on with my life and live in fear that he will attack again. but i will always be his mom and i will never turn my back on his son. never have any of my children and i never will. so God watch over him and keep him safe till he gets over the anger that is in him and help him move on also.
so his son is the only one who really could be is, is that it? hmmm...or maybe everyone is living in a fantasy where that kids mother couldn't ever have a child with someone else? maybe the kid isn't even his or maybe everyone is pointing fingers at another little boy and not expecting anyone to point the finger back. It's okay to judge one little boy but not the "real" son. that's stupid. stop using the "real" son as a pawn and realize everyone makes their own decisions. she isn't some miracle lady who does no wrong so maybe you should stop pretending she is. i have known that little boy you throw around since he was born and he is also a good kid. He didn't ask to take anyone's place. He just wants loved like any other kid. It ticks me off to see that someone would imply that kid did something wrong when he is just a kid. How do you like it when someone else does it back? you don't, right?
Miranda

Nevada, IA

#37 Feb 26, 2012
I'm not exactly sure how to begin this. I'm not even sure you will ever see this but I can be okay as long as I get this out there. I have held on to a lot of hate and anger towards you, Kelly. I apologize for that. I am only wasting my time being angry. So much happiness has been lost by all of this drama that it is too much. At what point does everyone stop and decide it's too late to change what is already done. I passed you on my way to church this morning and after I got there they talked about how badly it ruins things by holding on. I am about to marry your son in about 3 months and you won't be there. You never held grandchildren that you have. Some you have never even met. That is tragic. In order for me to be happy with my family I need to let go. It's taken me far too long to see that me staying mad at you and myself has only hindered my happiness with my family. I am ready to forgive you, to forgive Ben, and to forgive myself. I'm ready to forget the things that hurts my relationship with my family. I apologize for hurting you. You may never forgive and forget but I forgive you. I think the distance between us is a good thing because I don't think you are good for my family or that my family is good for you. I do however feel that being able to truly move on is beneficial to everyone. I'm sorry that you have missed out on such amazing things. I feel for you for the things that you are going to miss out on. I don't know that my forgiveness means anything to you but putting it out there means the world to me. This was just something I had to put out there for you.

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