Jesse Martinez team afraid to talk about Jesse Martinez

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Melrose Park Voter

Chicago, IL

#1 Jan 25, 2013
Why do Jesse's campaign supporters refuse to talk about their candidate? All they seem to do is write profanity-laced posts that are angry and emotional and just seem immature.

And when the MVP party raises questions about Jesse, his supporters never answer. I'm confused. Aren't they supposed to be talking about his record, what he's done, who his trustees are, who his connections are to. Anyone can talk about hypothetical plans. But the people of Melrose want to learn about Jesse's background and his team. I think we have a right to know. He's the new guy - I want to know about him.

And no, I'm not an adamant Serpico supporter. I will likely vote for him, but I don't know him personally, or work for him. I do read this stuff on Topix every once in a while. And I don't understand how the Jesse team is always getting upset when MVP raises all these concerns about Jesse's background. They don't even address it, and instead call MVP bullies, and then just type profanities and angry posts yelling and talking in slang. Are they hiding something? Why aren't we allowed to talk about that? This doesn't make sense to me.
serpicos office chair

South Elgin, IL

#2 Jan 25, 2013
Stop it I've heard enough s*** for 16 years! As a matter of fact do you have a roll of duct tape?
MP voter

Villa Park, IL

#3 Jan 25, 2013
Melrose Park Voter wrote:
Why do Jesse's campaign supporters refuse to talk about their candidate? All they seem to do is write profanity-laced posts that are angry and emotional and just seem immature.
And when the MVP party raises questions about Jesse, his supporters never answer. I'm confused. Aren't they supposed to be talking about his record, what he's done, who his trustees are, who his connections are to. Anyone can talk about hypothetical plans. But the people of Melrose want to learn about Jesse's background and his team. I think we have a right to know. He's the new guy - I want to know about him.
And no, I'm not an adamant Serpico supporter. I will likely vote for him, but I don't know him personally, or work for him. I do read this stuff on Topix every once in a while. And I don't understand how the Jesse team is always getting upset when MVP raises all these concerns about Jesse's background. They don't even address it, and instead call MVP bullies, and then just type profanities and angry posts yelling and talking in slang. Are they hiding something? Why aren't we allowed to talk about that? This doesn't make sense to me.
I disagree that Jesse's supporters refuse to talk about their candidate. MVP doesn't raise questions about Jesse, all they do is attack him. It doesn't matter how a person responds to MVP supporters, they will drown out any reasoned argument with stupid comments and tasteless jokes. These people aren't raising concerns about Jesse's background or any of the issues, they are purposely making things up in order to convince people (such as yourself) that Jesse is a bad guy that isn't worth listening to. Jesse can live in Melrose for the next 30 years and Serpico and his people will still accuse him of being an outsider. At the same time they refuse to acknowledge that certain MVP candidates aren't lifelong Melrose Parkers. On the RMP ticket, the only person that isnt a lifelong resident is Jesse!
Has MVP recently paid a visit to your home? They are walking around gathering signatures for a pointless petition that says something about not wanting the water bill increased. At the same time they are telling voters that if Jesse wins, his first act will be to raise water rates on everyone!
The point is, you can talk about whatever you'd like, Jesse's campaign is always willing to talk, as long as there is a dialogue to be had and not just personal attacks that make a mountain out of a molehill. If you really wanted to know were Jesse stands, you shouldn't get all your info from this forum. Im sure Jesse would be willing to talk to you, and will respect you even if at the end you tell him your going the other way. try doing that with MVP. They will respect you until you tell them you''re on Jesse's side, and then they'll treat you like garbage. I know plenty of people they've done that to.
Dancing

Chicago, IL

#4 Jan 26, 2013
Typical Jesse fans dancing around the truth. He hasn't done anything for anyone BUT HIMSELF. Please respond and say something, someeeeeething that the almighty Jesse Martinez has done!?! Because until them, he will continue to be the laughing stock of Melrose and the entire Hispanic community.
Please

Chicago, IL

#5 Jan 28, 2013
Dear Jesse's Supporters,

What happened with his suspension from work?
Why are none of his trustees running with him again this time?
Why do all his connections stay away from him, are they embarrassed he'll lose?
Is his new website serious or is it supposed to be a joke?

Please answer this initial list. Those should be simple enough to get trough!
Not so fast

Chicago, IL

#6 Jan 28, 2013
Please wrote:
Dear Jesse's Supporters,
What happened with his suspension from work?
Why are none of his trustees running with him again this time?
Why do all his connections stay away from him, are they embarrassed he'll lose?
Is his new website serious or is it supposed to be a joke?
Please answer this initial list. Those should be simple enough to get trough!
Here's what they'll say:

I know you have a full time job, and family to get home to and support, and have never met Jesse before, but take time out of YOUR day to stop by his office and talk to us for 20min. Instead of us just conveniently respond to your questions here so you can read them on your break at work. We want you to jump through hoops to learn about Jesse.
Not so fast and furious

Villa Park, IL

#7 Jan 28, 2013
Not so fast wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's what they'll say:
I know you have a full time job, and family to get home to and support, and have never met Jesse before, but take time out of YOUR day to stop by his office and talk to us for 20min. Instead of us just conveniently respond to your questions here so you can read them on your break at work. We want you to jump through hoops to learn about Jesse.
Actually the volunteers take time out of THEIR day to go out and talk to voters on a DAILY basis. Stopping by the office is another option for people that might feel more comfortable coming in on their own instead of letting someone into their home.
Jobs

Chicago, IL

#8 Jan 28, 2013
The Martinez "volunteers" are mostly "self employeed" so they have all day long to walk around and bother people!
Not so fast and furious

Chicago, IL

#9 Jan 28, 2013
Jobs wrote:
The Martinez "volunteers" are mostly "self employeed" so they have all day long to walk around and bother people!
so now youre complaining that they knock on people's doors to inform them about what they stand for? you guys are hilarious
volunteers

Chicago, IL

#10 Jan 28, 2013
No I'm referring to them not having jobs which makes it much easier to be constantly on topix and bothering people.
Takes one to know one

United States

#11 Jan 28, 2013
volunteers wrote:
No I'm referring to them not having jobs which makes it much easier to be constantly on topix and bothering people.
sounds to me like you don't have a job yourself if you have time to post and respond. Don't worry Serpico will put you on the payroll soon.
A ticket for you

Chicago, IL

#12 Jan 28, 2013
Takes one to know one wrote:
<quoted text> sounds to me like you don't have a job yourself if you have time to post and respond. Don't worry Serpico will put you on the payroll soon.
OK this was funny and clever. Didn't Greece put everyone on the government payroll and didn't the government collapse because there was nobody actually working and creating anything.

The welfare state doesn't work! The Serpico "lets give all my friends bloated jobs strategy doesn't work".

Somebody has to actually work. Government jobs should be no different than factory jobs. When the economy is tough....government employees need to be downsized and pay needs to be reduced for those that get to even keep their jobs.

Why aren't more people angry when a city shrinks and factory workers are laid off....but taxes go up because all municipal workers still expect to make more?!?!

The size and cost of the government payroll should always be a direct reflection of the health of the economy. Bad economy =reduce government. Its that simple.
They Are A Joke

Elgin, IL

#14 Jan 30, 2013
jokes
can anybody tell me why

Oak Brook, IL

#15 Jan 31, 2013
Dear Jesse's Supporters,

What happened with his suspension from work? Why are none of his trustees running with him again this time? Why do all his connections stay away from him, are they embarrassed he'll lose? Is his new website serious or is it supposed to be a joke?

Please answer this initial list. Those should be simple enough to get through!
yawn

Villa Park, IL

#16 Jan 31, 2013
can anybody tell me why wrote:
Dear Jesse's Supporters,
What happened with his suspension from work? Why are none of his trustees running with him again this time? Why do all his connections stay away from him, are they embarrassed he'll lose? Is his new website serious or is it supposed to be a joke?
Please answer this initial list. Those should be simple enough to get through!
1.As far as I know he is working, you should be doing the same instead of posting silly questions on here.. 2. They are all supporting him still. where are the trustees that ran with Serpico the first time? 3. No one is staying away from him, but What connections specifically? I dont really care what you answer to tell you the truth. 4. Serious, looks pretty damn good to me.

So answer me these questions now genius. Since you are bringing up old things: Why didnt Serpico know what was going on with Scavo, or did he know and do nothing about it. Is he incompetent or corrupt, cause it seems like he has to be one or the other.
Why are village pensions only 32% funded, where is the money? Why are Melrose Police Officers suing the Dept. for discrimination and how much is it going to cost to settle those lawsuits? Why does Serpico allow Madigan to tell him what to do? Gambling debts? Did anyone bid on the contracts to build those stupid islands on Division St.? Did Abruzzo get to "design" them?Why are the schools running out of money, and yet new positions are created that have nothing to do with teaching in order to give a friend a job?

Why cant you talk about real issues? Actually, ill answer that one: you don't have a leg to stand on.

YAWN

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#17 Jan 31, 2013
What is with the school issue? That is a seperate district from Melrose PK.
I get it

Elmwood Park, IL

#18 Jan 31, 2013
I think they're afraid to talk about him bc by THEIR definition they'll be either guilty of slander: talking negatively about someone (if they decide to speak the truth about him) or libel: lying about someone (if they want to make him sound like somebody who's actually done something relevant).

Makes sense now.
Inteligit

Maywood, IL

#19 Jan 31, 2013
you are retards... take da small bus home, take ur meds and go to bead.
yawn

Villa Park, IL

#20 Jan 31, 2013
Taxpayer for years wrote:
What is with the school issue? That is a seperate district from Melrose PK.
I guess its unbelievable that Serpico could control the school board? oh wait, I just saw this on the RMP website.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-06-02...

not only that back then there was actual opposition on the school board in the form of Grady Rivers and LaQuita Neely..today everyone on that board is Serpico's tool

But there are other issues going on in the school district. Go and speak with any teacher/administrator thats isn't being intimidated and you'll see.
yawn

Villa Park, IL

#21 Jan 31, 2013
Taxpayer for years wrote:
What is with the school issue? That is a seperate district from Melrose PK.
I like how your only response was "the school district has nothing to do with MP."

You didnt even address the other issues. Dancing around the real issues like everyone else, picking and choosing what seems best.

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