Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7341 Apr 5, 2013
Views From the High Stool wrote:
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Francine: I see we have the UCP Cheerleading Outfit on display!!!!
Francine, you seem to be in the know. Any word on Village of Lyons Budgets???? Can you get us any information on the Missing TIF Reports????? What about those Privately Issued Deb Certificates, can you check and see who is holding the paper on these, and exactly what WE, the Village of Lyons Residents, are on the HOOK FOR???????
Francine: Can you tell us why "Farmer Ken", and "Green Jeans Chris", disbanded Neighborhood Watch, and Contracted it out????
Francine, can you justify the $2000.00 per month we are paying for the Public Relations Specialist, for our Dear Leader??????
Francine, Can you rell us why we needed a CONSULTANT, to BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, with our own Cook County Board, when we have a Cook County Commisioner living and breathing right next door in McCook??????
Francine, Can you tell us all why we had to Pay $750.00 per month for this Consultant, Mario Joseph Moreno???????
Francine: did you know, it is alleged, that Dear Leader has spent some quality boating time with ole Mario?????
Francine: Can you tell us why the Finance and Board Meetings have been cancelled until after the Elections, yet "Green Jeans Chris" felt it was his duty to hold "The Getty Event" prior to the Election, even though he was not required too???????
No Francine, you cannot tell us any of these things. You cannot answer or justify an questions or concerns, on pertinent issues of the day, facing us the Village of Lyons!!!
Look at the PICTURE FRANCINE, EVERYBODY, LET'S ALL LOOK AT THE PICTURE WITH FRANCINE!!!!
ARE WE ALL FEELING GOOD YET?????
Francine: Here it is so you can Read it Once More!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7342 Apr 5, 2013
Francine wrote:
Feeling real good, thanks for asking !
Francine: I am thrilled that you are feeling good!!
Since you are feeling good and all seems to be coming up roses, having attended the UCP Schmooze Fest Last Night!!!(By the way, did "Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris", pull and pay for Permits for Last Nights, Schmooze Fest???)
Francine, I have noticed that you did not address, or even attempt to address one question in the above post!!!!

That seems to be the UCP Way!!!! Do not address Budgets, TIF Reports, State of Village Finances, Privately Issued Debt Certificates, who holds the Paper on these Privately Issued Debt Certificates, and How Much are we, the Village of Lyons Residents, on the HOOK For????

"Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris", are too busy to hold the regular Village Finance and Board Meetings, these will must postpone until after the Election!!!(SSHHHH, someone may ask us hard questions!!!!) Yes, Village of Lyons Residents, this is how GULLIBLE, NAIVE, AND BRAIN DEAD, "Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris" believe we are!!! The Village is broke, the Titanic is Sinking, and they head for ZUPA's and tell the Band to Play!!!

Look at the Picture Francine!!!! Dance your to the Music Francine!!!! The Hangover is coming, you are PAYING FOR IT!!! mIGHT AS WELL GET YOPUR MONIES WORTH!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7343 Apr 5, 2013
VANDALIZED wrote:
So I am starting to see more and more UCP Signs Vandalized. Same thing happened to TLC signs in 2009. Bashed with bats and spray painted on. Do you VIP and VIP Supporters really have that short of a fuse? Do you actually condone on such a violent message to our community? Is this actual adult behavior or were your kids up to this? It's a low move. I found one of my signs ripped out the lawn, a Miller Lite beer bottle next to it, and my big sign had an "x" spray painted on it! Of course, this afternoon they have been replaced all my signs and I turned the bottle over to the police to have them finger print it... wonder who's name is going to pop up!
Vandalized: This is beautiful, you guys, working Overtime in the UCP/Forest Park Spin Room!!!
We have yet to see any resolution on the "Case of the Missing Stripper", and now we have another mystery on our hands, "The Case of the Lost Miller Lite Beer Bottle"!!!!
Hey Harley, can we push this one to the FRONT OF THE LINE!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7344 Apr 5, 2013
From the SECOND CITY COP, Sunday, April 1, 2012.

More Pension Looting

Buried in the Saturday paper, we don't know if this will make the Sunday editions:

* At first blush, a pension bill adopted by the General Assembly in 2007 seemed to have a laudable goal: extending retirement benefits to local police force employees' widows after they remarried.
But buried within the legislation was something considerably less altruistic: a provision that enabled a member of one of Chicago's better-known political families to boost his pension by more than $30,000 a year - while saddling unsuspecting taxpayers in Oak Brook with nearly $750,000 in funding liabilities, the Chicago Sun-Times and Better Government Association have learned.
The recipient of that larger pension, Thomas Sheahan, is a former police chief in Oak Brook, the current village manager in Lyons and a member of the Democratic clan that has helped rule Chicago's Southwest Side for decades.
Sharp-tongued and unapolegetic about benefitting from the provision that no one else has used, the 59-year-old Sheahan said of his pension: "I worked for 24 f------ years [in the public sector], I deserve every penny of it and I deserve a lot f------ more."

Come on Sheahan, you were a pencil pusher, a connected political heavyweight, and pretty much unworthy to carry the title of Police Officer. Let's not pretend you actually earned anything.

Francine: Can you let the Village of Lyons Residents know if you spotted Thomas Sheahan, our current, Part-time Village Manager, at an "extremely modest" salary of $65,000.00 per year, placed in this position by "Farmer Ken" and Dear Leader "Green Jeans Chris", can you let us know if Thomas was sashshaying around the dance floor at ZUPA's while the Band Played On????

Boost your pension by $30,000 per year on the backs of Police Widows, leave the taxpayers of Oak Brook with $750,0000 in unfunded liabilities, then land in Lyons, courtesy of "Farmer Ken" and Dear Leader, "Green Jeans Chris" with a $65,000 per year part-time gig!!!!

Dance Thomas, Dance Thomas, give Francine a wirl around the Floor, YOU AND SHE DESERVE IT, AND ALOT f------ MORE!!!!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7345 Apr 5, 2013
This Taken from CBS Chicago, on June 26, 2012.

Former Ald. Medrano, Ex-Commisioner Moreno Charged in Corruption Probe

Just two days before he officially steps down as the U.S. Attorney in Chicago, Patrick Fitzgerald's office has nailed two more elected officials in a public corruption probe.
Former Chicago Ald. Ambrosio Medrano Sr. and former Cook County Commisioner Joseph Mario Moreno were charged in three separate bribery schemes, along with five local businessmen.
Federal prosecutors alleged Moreno agreed to use his influence to help an FBI informant in the development of a waste transfer station on vacant land at 54th Avenue and Roosevelt Road in Cicero. Federal agents allegedly recorded Moreno telling the informant "I don't want to be a hog, I just want to be a pig. Hogs get slaughtered, pigs get fat."
Moreno allegedly accepted an envelope containing $5,000 in cash from the informantin December of 2010, with a promise of another $5,000 cash a few weeks later. He also allegedly believed he had an agreement to get 10 percent of the revenue from the waste transfer station on a continuing basis. In another scheme, both Moreno and Medrano were charged, along with three businessmen, in a scheme to use bribes and kickbacks to sell bandages to public hospitals, including John H. Stroger Jr. Hospital of Cook County, according to federal prosecutors.

This Village of Lyons Residents, is the Joseph Mario Moreno, that "Farmer Ken" and Dear Leader "Green Jeans Chris", along with the UCP Bobbleheads, hired at an "extremely modest" $750.00 per month, to "Build Relationship" with our very own Cook County Board Members!!!!
What does Mario have in common with "Farmer Ken" and Dear Leader "Green Jeans Chris", it is very simple, they are all USELESS PARIAHS, FEEDING AT THE PUBLIC TROUGH!!!! They all, bring absolutely no value to the table, but expect to receive their gratuities off of the top, and on into perpetuity!!!!
Public Office is simply a vehicle for personal gain and enrichment!!

On April 9th, Vote VIP, WISNESKI*MENDLIK*GATZ*GRAUNKE* JOHNSON, Let's remove Dear Leader "Green Jeans Chris" the UCP Bobbleheads, and "Farmer Ken" from, what they have come to view as their OWN PERSONAL ATM MACHINE, OUR VILLAGE HALL ON LAWNDALE!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7346 Apr 6, 2013
Received the Latest UCP Flyer, that was Paid for by the LMBA!!
Dear Leader "Green Jeans Chris" according to LMBA, has Proven Leadership & Proven Results!!!
He has shown Genuine Concern for Residents & Business Owners, He has paid down Village Debt, Stimulated Economic Development & Growth, He has Cleaned and Repaired Streets & Sidewalks!!! Whew what a accomplished first four years in office!!!!He not only showed concern, HE SHOWED GENUINE CONCERN!!!!
Once again no specifics all General Fluff!!!
Why not take Credit for NO TIMELY BUDGETS, NO TIF REPORTS or ANNUAL TIF UPDATES, NO REPORTS ON VILLAGE FINANCES or PRIVATELY ISSUED DEBT CERTIFICATES!!!

Why not take credit for the Hiring of Tommy Boy, our Part-Time Village Manager and his "extremely modest $65,000 per year salary.(The same one who after 6 years of service to the Village of Oak Brook, and some assistance from his friends in the State Legislature, boosted his Pension by $30,000, and left that Village, much to the Taxpayers astonishment, saddled with $750,000 in unfunded Pension Liabilities!!!!
Why not take credit for the hiring of Mario Joseph Moreno, to "Build Relationships" with our Cook County Board??? Something our Very Own Listener and Relationship Builder could not do on his own!! Even though, right next door in McCook we have a real live Cook County Board Member, Jeff Tobolski, he is even on, and/or the founding member of the LMBA!!!(They must know each other, was not that them sitting atop of the Dolphins together and smiling like Bud and Sandy last summer?????)
Mario received an "extremely modest" monthly fee of $750.00!!!
Dear Leader "Green Jeans Chris" does indeed show GENUINE CONCERN, when he is doling out our hard earned Village Monies, to these useless leeches!!!
"Green Jeans Chris" is the MAGNANIMUS MAYOR, and we are the CHUMPS paying for his LARGESS!!!!

Quick, look at the Picture with Francine!!!!! Feeling better Now!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7347 Apr 6, 2013
Duffys Tavern wrote:
<quoted text>Confused:
"...In 1998, the village architect, the architect's son and Kenneth Getty were convicted on 21 counts each of mail fraud,theft of government funds and money laundering..." -Chicago Tribune, 4/29/2009.
"...Now two bars say they bought their insurance at the agency from Getty's father, whose insurance license is revoked. The father and son deny the allegations while offering conflicting versions of what happened..." -Chicago Tribune, 3/8/2011.
This one certainly deserves another view, inlight of the Lyons-McCook Business Association Endorsement of "Green Jeans Chris", our Dear Leader!!
Remember, they did not just endorse him, they Proudly Endorsed Him!!!!!
Hey LMBA, think we may have a Credibility Issue with your PROUD ENDORSEMENT???????
Liz Swann

United States

#7348 Apr 6, 2013
Oh, Stoolie, Sorry, Business Astroturf Assoc is wrong on two counts:

1. Getty debt issues =$2.9M in 2009 +$4 M (and then some) NEW Debt in 2010 =$7 M added during Getty regime.

2.$2.8M (in regualrly scheduled debt payments, I might add, so no biscuit for any "special" Getty financial expertise or feats) does NOT equal $5 M in Village Debt paid down.

And when a municipality does NOT apply proceeds acquired from issuing debt for a stated purpose in that way, others tend to begin to suspect that the folks at the helm might be less than ...honest. I'm thinking word with five letters here, begins with F, ends with D. And where oh where did that less than highly visible Project of 2010 - the stated purpose for borrowing the $9 M - disappear to? Now we could enter into a discussion on whther TIF incremental funds can be legally pledged to fund costs of a public park, which, like a muni building, will NEVER contribute to increased EAV, but let's save that one for later.

BTW, how many of the ZUPA 300 were bona fide Lyons voters, besides Francine and husband?

Liz Swann

United States

#7349 Apr 6, 2013
Views, Thanks for your insights! And for reminding us that, yes indeed, UCP seems to have attracted all of the "best" people to the VOL payroll. <LMAO/G>
Another Stool

La Grange Park, IL

#7351 Apr 6, 2013
Liz Swann wrote:
1. Getty debt issues =$2.9M in 2009 +$4 M (and then some) NEW Debt in 2010 =$7 M added during Getty regime.
2.$2.8M (in regualrly scheduled debt payments, I might add, so no biscuit for any "special" Getty financial expertise or feats) does NOT equal $5 M in Village Debt paid down.
And when a municipality does NOT apply proceeds acquired from issuing debt for a stated purpose in that way, others tend to begin to suspect that the folks at the helm might be less than ...honest.
To point 1, the 2009 debt paid off unpaid bills (unfunded debt). Same for all but $1.7 million of the 2010 issue. The Village had a schedule of doom (bills it could not pay) at the beginning of 2010 that totaled over $2.3 million. They made financial commitments for the park that were not funded.

Since your head is so far up you a**, you cannot see this. These details were presented at the Finance Committee that you attended. And ALL trustees including the Visk supporters and Patti voted for the 2010 debt; they had to. Otherwise the Village would have gone bankrupt.

And we encourage you to investigate the people behind the 2009 bond issue, Visk, Witherow, Hayden, Henn. You might be on to something; they controlled the issuance of those bonds. Check the 2009 audits and see what happened!!!!

Your negative partisan support of anybody but the people in power totally compromise ANY positive comment you could say.

By the way, the debt is below $25 million, not matter what goofy numbers you post. Page 49 baby. Thanks for showing how well Chris has done.
Mazer

Forest Park, IL

#7352 Apr 6, 2013
Another Stool wrote:
<quoted text>
To point 1, the 2009 debt paid off unpaid bills (unfunded debt). Same for all but $1.7 million of the 2010 issue. The Village had a schedule of doom (bills it could not pay) at the beginning of 2010 that totaled over $2.3 million. They made financial commitments for the park that were not funded.
Since your head is so far up you a**, you cannot see this. These details were presented at the Finance Committee that you attended. And ALL trustees including the Visk supporters and Patti voted for the 2010 debt; they had to. Otherwise the Village would have gone bankrupt.
And we encourage you to investigate the people behind the 2009 bond issue, Visk, Witherow, Hayden, Henn. You might be on to something; they controlled the issuance of those bonds. Check the 2009 audits and see what happened!!!!
Your negative partisan support of anybody but the people in power totally compromise ANY positive comment you could say.
By the way, the debt is below $25 million, not matter what goofy numbers you post. Page 49 baby. Thanks for showing how well Chris has done.
she back wrong
THE SSS ALERT

Forest Park, IL

#7353 Apr 6, 2013
To all who stumble upon this forum. Swan, Stool, and She Back. A.k.a the "SSS" group. Will comment fast with swift action to counter any positive comments made towards Getty or the UCP. They are hired internet henchwomen to work maliciously for Pattie and the "VIP" party. They have made numerous attempts to discredit Getty and the UCP at any cost with no remorse. They are constantly going after and laying out personal attacks on Ken Getty Sr. The "SSS" work hard behind the scenes to mudsling any UCP Member or Supporter as best as they can. They will try to crawl under your skin like ticks! The "SSS" praises and worships Pattie and VIP on a pedestal made of gold. Despite all the crime and pedophiles VIP is tied to, the "SSS" will work diligently to dismiss any claims or counter attack to change the subject. Citizens be warned and take extreme caution as the "SSS" will likely attack you without hesitation. They are swift. They are dirty. They are cold blooded. They will try to eat and devour you. There is no known defense to steer clear of the "SSS". Everyone is subject to b victimized. You have been warned!
You Have Talent

Forest Park, IL

#7354 Apr 6, 2013
THE SSS ALERT wrote:
To all who stumble upon this forum. Swan, Stool, and She Back. A.k.a the "SSS" group. Will comment fast with swift action to counter any positive comments made towards Getty or the UCP. They are hired internet henchwomen to work maliciously for Pattie and the "VIP" party. They have made numerous attempts to discredit Getty and the UCP at any cost with no remorse. They are constantly going after and laying out personal attacks on Ken Getty Sr. The "SSS" work hard behind the scenes to mudsling any UCP Member or Supporter as best as they can. They will try to crawl under your skin like ticks! The "SSS" praises and worships Pattie and VIP on a pedestal made of gold. Despite all the crime and pedophiles VIP is tied to, the "SSS" will work diligently to dismiss any claims or counter attack to change the subject. Citizens be warned and take extreme caution as the "SSS" will likely attack you without hesitation. They are swift. They are dirty. They are cold blooded. They will try to eat and devour you. There is no known defense to steer clear of the "SSS". Everyone is subject to b victimized. You have been warned!
Brilliantly written ! And so very true !
Power of Prayer

Forest Park, IL

#7355 Apr 6, 2013
THE SSS ALERT wrote:
To all who stumble upon this forum. Swan, Stool, and She Back. A.k.a the "SSS" group. Will comment fast with swift action to counter any positive comments made towards Getty or the UCP. They are hired internet henchwomen to work maliciously for Pattie and the "VIP" party. They have made numerous attempts to discredit Getty and the UCP at any cost with no remorse. They are constantly going after and laying out personal attacks on Ken Getty Sr. The "SSS" work hard behind the scenes to mudsling any UCP Member or Supporter as best as they can. They will try to crawl under your skin like ticks! The "SSS" praises and worships Pattie and VIP on a pedestal made of gold. Despite all the crime and pedophiles VIP is tied to, the "SSS" will work diligently to dismiss any claims or counter attack to change the subject. Citizens be warned and take extreme caution as the "SSS" will likely attack you without hesitation. They are swift. They are dirty. They are cold blooded. They will try to eat and devour you. There is no known defense to steer clear of the "SSS". Everyone is subject to b victimized. You have been warned!
Divine Intervention is needed..take moment, bow your head and ask...only takes a second or two.
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7356 Apr 6, 2013
You Have Talent wrote:
<quoted text>
Brilliantly written ! And so very true !
YHT: Isn't this touching, here we have the UCP Mutual Admiration Society!!!
I find it utterly amazing that you Bozo's continually Whine and Moan when the Facts are laid out for all to see and read!!!
You cannot dispute them, you cannot intelligently respond and try to disavow them, because they are so very, very, true!!!!
We, the Village of Lyons Residents, Have a Village President, that believes he is our Mayor!!
We have a Former Mayor, and Convictrd Felon, running around our Village Hall Barking Orders to the Troops, and Meddling in Zoning Issues!!!
We have a Legal Firm, representing our Village President, and NOT the Village Residents!!!
We have a Public Relations Specialist, providing PR Fluff for our Village President, paid for by us, the Village Residents!!
We have a Part Time Village Manager, who by the way, could not manage his way out of a paper bag, but certainly knows his way around Pension Issues, and left his former employers, the Village of Oak Brook Residents, on the Hook for $750,000 in unfunded Pension Liabilities!!!!
We hired a Consultant, Mario Joseph Moreno, to "Build Relationships" with our own Cook County Board, and now it looks like old Mario is Relationship Building with the Feds!!!!!
We cannot get Budgets, TIF Reports or Updates, the Status of our Village Finances, and Privately Issued Debt Certificates, what we owe, and/or who we owe it too, and you Knuckleheads want to put this IDIOT, back in as Village President!!!
General Hospital, could not write this story line and think the viewers would believe it, YET HERE WE ARE, IN THE VILLAGE OF LYONS, ACTUALLY WATCHING THIS FIASCO IN LIVING COLOR!!!!

You are DAMN RIGHT WE NEED DIVINE INTERVENTION!!!!

Vote VIP, April 9th!!!! WISNESKI*MENDLIK*GATZ*GRAUNKE* JOHNSON - WE CAN ALL GIVE THE LORD A HELPING HAND IN CLEANSING THE vILLAGE OF LYONS OF THESE UCP LEPERS!!!!!
HAhahaha

Forest Park, IL

#7357 Apr 6, 2013
Views From the High Stool wrote:
<quoted text>
YHT: Isn't this touching, here we have the UCP Mutual Admiration Society!!!
I find it utterly amazing that you Bozo's continually Whine and Moan when the Facts are laid out for all to see and read!!!
You cannot dispute them, you cannot intelligently respond and try to disavow them, because they are so very, very, true!!!!
We, the Village of Lyons Residents, Have a Village President, that believes he is our Mayor!!
We have a Former Mayor, and Convictrd Felon, running around our Village Hall Barking Orders to the Troops, and Meddling in Zoning Issues!!!
We have a Legal Firm, representing our Village President, and NOT the Village Residents!!!
We have a Public Relations Specialist, providing PR Fluff for our Village President, paid for by us, the Village Residents!!
We have a Part Time Village Manager, who by the way, could not manage his way out of a paper bag, but certainly knows his way around Pension Issues, and left his former employers, the Village of Oak Brook Residents, on the Hook for $750,000 in unfunded Pension Liabilities!!!!
We hired a Consultant, Mario Joseph Moreno, to "Build Relationships" with our own Cook County Board, and now it looks like old Mario is Relationship Building with the Feds!!!!!
We cannot get Budgets, TIF Reports or Updates, the Status of our Village Finances, and Privately Issued Debt Certificates, what we owe, and/or who we owe it too, and you Knuckleheads want to put this IDIOT, back in as Village President!!!
General Hospital, could not write this story line and think the viewers would believe it, YET HERE WE ARE, IN THE VILLAGE OF LYONS, ACTUALLY WATCHING THIS FIASCO IN LIVING COLOR!!!!
You are DAMN RIGHT WE NEED DIVINE INTERVENTION!!!!
Vote VIP, April 9th!!!! WISNESKI*MENDLIK*GATZ*GRAUNKE* JOHNSON - WE CAN ALL GIVE THE LORD A HELPING HAND IN CLEANSING THE vILLAGE OF LYONS OF THESE UCP LEPERS!!!!!
HaHAhaha I can only get through a sentence or two before laughing. Honestly I don't think anyone reads the blunder you post!
UCP VOTER

Forest Park, IL

#7358 Apr 6, 2013
Last day of early voting. Count 6 more votes from my family for UCP!!!

GO UNITED CITIZENS PARTY!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7359 Apr 6, 2013
HAhahaha wrote:
<quoted text>
HaHAhaha I can only get through a sentence or two before laughing. Honestly I don't think anyone reads the blunder you post!
HA: Well we know at least one BRAIN DEAD BONEHEAD, like yourself does. Whether or not you can understand and comprehend what you are reading, is another issue entirely, and unfortunately I have neither the time or inclination to mentor you this weekend!!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7360 Apr 6, 2013
UCP VOTER wrote:
Last day of early voting. Count 6 more votes from my family for UCP!!!
GO UNITED CITIZENS PARTY!!!!
UCP: Atta Boy!!! We still have 15 fingers and toes for you guys fill, before we hit the magic 40 number!!!!
wondering

Forest Park, IL

#7361 Apr 6, 2013
Views From the High Stool wrote:
<quoted text>
Francine: I am thrilled that you are feeling good!!
Since you are feeling good and all seems to be coming up roses, having attended the UCP Schmooze Fest Last Night!!!(By the way, did "Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris", pull and pay for Permits for Last Nights, Schmooze Fest???)
Francine, I have noticed that you did not address, or even attempt to address one question in the above post!!!!
That seems to be the UCP Way!!!! Do not address Budgets, TIF Reports, State of Village Finances, Privately Issued Debt Certificates, who holds the Paper on these Privately Issued Debt Certificates, and How Much are we, the Village of Lyons Residents, on the HOOK For????
"Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris", are too busy to hold the regular Village Finance and Board Meetings, these will must postpone until after the Election!!!(SSHHHH, someone may ask us hard questions!!!!) Yes, Village of Lyons Residents, this is how GULLIBLE, NAIVE, AND BRAIN DEAD, "Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris" believe we are!!! The Village is broke, the Titanic is Sinking, and they head for ZUPA's and tell the Band to Play!!!
Look at the Picture Francine!!!! Dance your to the Music Francine!!!! The Hangover is coming, you are PAYING FOR IT!!! mIGHT AS WELL GET YOPUR MONIES WORTH!!!!
Are you an employee of the VOL.

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