Silverstein

La Grange Park, IL

#6451 Feb 22, 2013
SYNOPSIS AS INTRODUCED:

New Act

Creates the Internet Posting Removal Act. Provides that a web site administrator shall, upon request, remove any posted comments posted by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. Effective 90 days after becoming law.

LRB098 08515 JLS 38626 b




A BILL FOR


SB1614 LRB098 08515 JLS 38626 b

1 AN ACT concerning the internet.

2 Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois,
3 represented in the General Assembly:

4 Section 1. Short title. This Act may be cited as the
5 Internet Posting Removal Act.

6 Section 5. Definitions. As used in this Act, the following
7 words and terms shall have the following meanings:
8 "Anonymous poster" means any individual who posts a message
9 on a web site including social networks, blogs, forums, message
10 boards, or any other discussion site where people can hold
11 conversations in the form of posted messages.
12 "Internet" means the global system of interconnected
13 computer networks that use the Internet Protocol.
14 "Internet Protocol address" or "IP address" means a
15 numerical label assigned to each computer or device
16 participating in a computer network that uses the Internet
17 Protocol for communication.
18 "Web site administrator" means any person or entity that is
19 responsible for maintaining a web site or managing the content
20 or development of information provided on a web site including
21 social networks, blogs, forums, message boards, or any other
22 discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form
23 of posted messages accessible via a network such as the




SB1614 - 2 - LRB098 08515 JLS 38626 b

1 Internet or a private local area network.

2 Section 10. Anonymous internet poster; right to know. A web
3 site administrator upon request shall remove any comments
4 posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the
5 anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post
6 and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home
7 address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a
8 contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal
9 requests clearly visible in any sections where comments are
10 posted.

11 Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect 90 days
12 after becoming law.
Lawyers

Forest Park, IL

#6452 Feb 22, 2013
Lawyers

Forest Park, IL

#6458 Feb 22, 2013
She back

United States

#6459 Feb 22, 2013
Well, thanks again, Lawyers. Sure hope government meets with same success in obtaining info as ordinary citizens do under FOIA: you know, what goes around comes around.
Hilarious

United States

#6460 Feb 22, 2013
I think she back and Lawyers would have been good candidates the back and forth and both have good comebacks !!!! I cant wait for tuesday Cicero needs a new president! I hope and pray!
Child Abuse all Over

Forest Park, IL

#6461 Feb 23, 2013
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#6462 Feb 23, 2013
Was at last nights fundraiser for the Village Independent Party. I was very impressed by the Slate of Candidates running for election, as well as the message and platform they are proposing. Wisnwski*Mendlik*Gatz*Graunke* Johnson, best of luck!!!
Hopeless

Chicago, IL

#6463 Feb 23, 2013
Hope wrote:
Had a very nice young man come to my door this weekend. Good to know that we will have a choice in the April Election. That is, unless the Gettys try to get this group thrown off the ballot like last election- which cost us residents money. I like the Village Independent Party's (VIP) Candidates a lot. Pattie Grahovac-Wisneski for President, George Cokinis-Clerk, Dan Graunke, Dick Gatz and Jimmy Jenks for trustees. They all have my families votes! Bye bye Getty.
What happened to Jimmy Jenks???
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#6464 Feb 23, 2013
resident wrote:
<quoted text>maybe like other smart business people they want to support an admin. that helps them and listens to concerns.they help themselves by stopping the tlc/mvp/vip from getting power and destroying our town again like they have done before.
Resident: Why is it that this administration, as well as their supporters, keep blaming previous administrations for this administrations inability manage Lyons for the benefit of the taxpayers? Instead of focusing on your accomplishments, like putting up Christmas Lights(the green ones were pretty)and bringing the Circus to town, you keep wanting to blame administrations from four years or more prior. Buckle up Buttercup!! That ship has sailed!!!!
A Good Thing

Forest Park, IL

#6465 Feb 23, 2013
The Desplaines Valley News is doing a great job.
The paper looks good and the news is informative and well written.

CONTINUED SUCCESS.

To all the staffers of the paper, "Thank you".
Lady A

Lyons, IL

#6466 Feb 23, 2013
WTH wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, I wonder if the feds looked into Chris using his funds to pay for his car? Did he report it as income?
Seriously, I have lived in lyons most of my life and just discovered this forum....I honestly cant believe that you people are giving OUR mayor so much grief, in my opinion he has done great things for this community and for the kids of this community....whatever problems you "older people" have with his father has nothing to do with him. So sorry to burst your bubble but if anyone on this site thinks for one second that he is not going to get re-elected....think again!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#6467 Feb 23, 2013
Lady A wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously, I have lived in lyons most of my life and just discovered this forum....I honestly cant believe that you people are giving OUR mayor so much grief, in my opinion he has done great things for this community and for the kids of this community....whatever problems you "older people" have with his father has nothing to do with him. So sorry to burst your bubble but if anyone on this site thinks for one second that he is not going to get re-elected....think again!!!!
Dear Lady A: Thanks for the Memo. Hear Ye, Hear Ye, did all of the Village Independent Party Candidates and Supporters get notified of Lady A's Proclamation. The Election is over!!!! We can all Pack Up and GO HOME. Our great and fearless, relationship building Village President (OOPs I mean Mayor, Yes he can designate himself the Mayor, don't believe me, his lawyer told him so, thus it must be)has won. Thanks Lady A, for saving us all a bunch of wasted time and effort! Should you have any other great and unique thoughts, please do not deprive all of us great unwashed the beneifit of your wisdom.
Sidedish

United States

#6468 Feb 23, 2013
Maybe she's one of his sidedishes.
She back

United States

#6469 Feb 23, 2013
Lady A wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously, I have lived in lyons most of my life and just discovered this forum....I honestly cant believe that you people are giving OUR mayor so much grief, in my opinion he has done great things for this community and for the kids of this community....whatever problems you "older people" have with his father has nothing to do with him. So sorry to burst your bubble but if anyone on this site thinks for one second that he is not going to get re-elected....think again!!!!
Daddy wasn't the one who:
went full speed ahead and borrowed $2.95M dollars (on top of the $2.7M his predecessors stuck us with)for a TIF (that would be TIF 4) with only a few vacant lots and a Culver's (and with average incremental taxes coming in of less than $12,000 per year)and made sure that that debt would be General Obligation - meaning payable from our property taxes;
whose regime - oops, I mean administration - couldn't quite keep up with those pesky statutory requirements, like filing financial reports...annually, of all things, FOIA, Open Meetings Act;
relied on oh-so-private "bank loans" to keep his spending spree "under the radar" and exempt from prying eyes of taxpayers and regulatory agencies...and oh, yeah, investors...
still keeps on keeping on billing us on our water bills for debt retired - or supposed to be retired - last year;
silently added on additional General Fund "administration fees" to the water and garbage fund administration costs already assessed by the General Fund..this would be at the suggestion made back in June 2009 by our Finance Director (but only since May 2011) and all around Financial Wizard, in order to create additional revenue to pay for (then) current and (in 2009) proposed debt. This on top of a rate increase.
Need more? Because there's lots!

BTW, he is NOT "OUR" mayor...he is currently the Village President. Whether he gets another term remains to be seen...and lots can happen between now and April 9th.
Tracker

Chicago, IL

#6470 Feb 24, 2013
One of the points that should be clarified in the current fiscal debate is that Big Government spending is inherently bad, and not just because someone has to pay for it, or because the money must be conjured from the bowels of the Treasury.

Not all government spending is harmful. Obviously, there are things the State is supposed to do, and they cost money. But even when we get past the essential duties of government, it’s still possible for those little “stimulus” and “investment” pokes and prods to do some good… provided they, and the government making them, are little. There is a real difference between a relatively modest State throwing around small bags of loot, and a mega-State pumping out trillions in stimulus money. Whether the government is ethically or Constitutionally allowed to make these investments is an important, but different, point. We speak here of efficiency.

Government meddling in the economy distorts the marketplace, obscuring the clear guidance offered by the rules of supply and demand. Contrary to liberal mythology, no amount of government power can repeal the laws of supply and demand; they are eternal. But we can be prevented from hearing the signals those laws send to us, wasting resources in the pursuit of non-existent markets and over-hyped “opportunities.” Look at all of the subsidiary businesses, from manufacturing supplies to office cleaning services, that believed Solyndra’s huge facility offered them a stable and profitable market opportunity. Or consider the electric car, whose real demand is almost exactly zero – very few people want to buy these cars at their heavily subsidized prices, and virtually nobody would buy one at the true market price, which is often two to four times as high as the already inflated number on the sticker.

Big Government produces dependency, and not just from individual welfare recipients; plenty of corporations are lined up to receive their subsidies, too. Business models across the land assume price supports, wealth transfers, and bailouts will always be available. Not only are both citizens and corporations weakened by welfare addiction, but they become a powerful force urging the further growth of the State… no matter how dangerous or un-affordable such growth might be. The primary “product” of the mega-State is further demand for an even bigger State, in a vicious cycle that ultimately passes beyond reason – right about the time socialists begin complaining that basic math is a tool of right-wing conspirators, and deficit problems can be solved by minting trillion-dollar platinum coins. And of course, all those deficits we’re piling up today will become irresistible demands for tax increases tomorrow.

The more money government spends, the larger it becomes. Tax increases further reduce the size of the private sector. The true power of the State is the sum of what it does, and what it takes. All that money from the State is going somewhere: punishing people who behave in ways the political class dislikes, rewarding those who follow its agenda, buying votes to protect itself from reform, over-ruling the judgment of the free market, providing advantages to some at the expense of others, luring companies away from tough competition in pursuit of easy government dollars.

We are not wise to make the government the center of our lives. Political influence shouldn’t be the most valuable “resource” in the land. People shouldn’t view their fellow citizens as enemies, out to steal the State-provided bread and cheese from their tables. They should favor persuasion and competition over the brute business of winning elections and forcing their agendas down the throats of dissenters. But as government grows, and controls a greater share of our labor and property, that brute business becomes the only one worth patronizing.
Tracker

Chicago, IL

#6471 Feb 24, 2013
One of the points that should be clarified in the current fiscal debate is that Big Government spending is inherently bad, and not just because someone has to pay for it, or because the money must be conjured from the bowels of the Treasury.

Not all government spending is harmful. Obviously, there are things the State is supposed to do, and they cost money. But even when we get past the essential duties of government, it’s still possible for those little “stimulus” and “investment” pokes and prods to do some good… provided they, and the government making them, are little. There is a real difference between a relatively modest State throwing around small bags of loot, and a mega-State pumping out trillions in stimulus money. Whether the government is ethically or Constitutionally allowed to make these investments is an important, but different, point. We speak here of efficiency.

A European Central Bank study in 2011 determined that “government consumption is consistently detrimental to growth,” even when specifically intended to stimulate economic growth. One of the study’s findings was that large, big-spending governments produce low-quality programs rife with corruption and ideological blindness, leading to more harmful effects from large-scale taxation and spending. Smaller governments tend to be more disciplined, and spend their money with less harmful effect. Another way to put this finding is that the more money government spends, the more inefficient and corrupt it inevitably becomes; it gets bad when it gets big.

Government meddling in the economy distorts the marketplace, obscuring the clear guidance offered by the rules of supply and demand. Contrary to liberal mythology, no amount of government power can repeal the laws of supply and demand; they are eternal. But we can be prevented from hearing the signals those laws send to us, wasting resources in the pursuit of non-existent markets and over-hyped “opportunities.” Look at all of the subsidiary businesses, from manufacturing supplies to office cleaning services, that believed Solyndra’s huge facility offered them a stable and profitable market opportunity. Or consider the electric car, whose real demand is almost exactly zero – very few people want to buy these cars at their heavily subsidized prices, and virtually nobody would buy one at the true market price, which is often two to four times as high as the already inflated number on the sticker.

This distortion of information results in genuine, productive opportunities being lost. You’ll notice that Big Government enthusiasts never want to talk about the opportunity cost of spending and regulation. They don’t want to hear about the ideas that could not be pursued, the jobs regulated out of existence, the investments free people would have preferred to make voluntarily. The statist has no interest in what could have been.

Big Government produces dependency, and not just from individual welfare recipients; plenty of corporations are lined up to receive their subsidies, too. Business models across the land assume price supports, wealth transfers, and bailouts will always be available. Not only are both citizens and corporations weakened by welfare addiction, but they become a powerful force urging the further growth of the State… no matter how dangerous or un-affordable such growth might be. The primary “product” of the mega-State is further demand for an even bigger State, in a vicious cycle that ultimately passes beyond reason – right about the time socialists begin complaining that basic math is a tool of right-wing conspirators, and deficit problems can be solved by minting trillion-dollar platinum coins. And of course, all those deficits we’re piling up today will become irresistible demands for tax increases tomorrow.
WTH

Hillside, IL

#6472 Feb 24, 2013
A Good Thing wrote:
The Desplaines Valley News is doing a great job.
The paper looks good and the news is informative and well written.
CONTINUED SUCCESS.
To all the staffers of the paper, "Thank you".
You must get a different version of the DVN than I do. The one I get has nothing worth reading - especially about Lyons. The only articles about Lyons are self promoting publicity pieces written by either Getty, himself, or someone the taxpayers are paying $2,000 a month. Oh, yeah, there was a small article about a car crash, but that's it. How about writing about the politics and problems - things like not having a budget? Jim Pluta used to be an actual reporter, now he is little more that a Getty lap dog.
WTH

Hillside, IL

#6473 Feb 24, 2013
Lady A wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously, I have lived in lyons most of my life and just discovered this forum....I honestly cant believe that you people are giving OUR mayor so much grief, in my opinion he has done great things for this community and for the kids of this community....whatever problems you "older people" have with his father has nothing to do with him. So sorry to burst your bubble but if anyone on this site thinks for one second that he is not going to get re-elected....think again!!!!
Of course, when one amasses a "war chest" of nearly $500,000, much of it from companies doing business with the village, they are pretty hard to beat. But, mark my words, Chris isn't finished after his second term, he will be shooting for higher office - at least at the state level. If he isn't doing time, first - but then he can always be his cell block president!
WTH

Hillside, IL

#6474 Feb 24, 2013
Lady A wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously, I have lived in lyons most of my life and just discovered this forum....I honestly cant believe that you people are giving OUR mayor so much grief, in my opinion he has done great things for this community and for the kids of this community....whatever problems you "older people" have with his father has nothing to do with him. So sorry to burst your bubble but if anyone on this site thinks for one second that he is not going to get re-elected....think again!!!!
One more thing, yes, his father does have to do with him. His father is the one running our village, Chris won't do a thing without Daddy's permission. If Daddy isn't part of it, why does he have a key to the village offices? And who made him chair of a Board? And, BTW, he is our Village President - check our own village code and you will not find the term mayor anywhere. But "mayor" sounds more important, so it just fits his oversize ego.
Joel

Forest Park, IL

#6475 Feb 24, 2013
WTH wrote:
<quoted text>
You must get a different version of the DVN than I do. The one I get has nothing worth reading - especially about Lyons. The only articles about Lyons are self promoting publicity pieces written by either Getty, himself, or someone the taxpayers are paying $2,000 a month. Oh, yeah, there was a small article about a car crash, but that's it. How about writing about the politics and problems - things like not having a budget? Jim Pluta used to be an actual reporter, now he is little more that a Getty lap dog.
Cruel and heartless are your comments about Mr. Pluta.

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