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SafeNet shelter director ordered to stay away from kids

There are 253 comments on the www.renewamerica.us story from Oct 8, 2008, titled SafeNet shelter director ordered to stay away from kids. In it, www.renewamerica.us reports that:

By Carey Roberts What happens when an abuse shelter engages in conduct that is so unethical and bizarre that the public almost can't believe the magnitude of the travesty? Read on and decide for yourself.

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“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#1 Oct 8, 2008
For the record:

We did not request or assist in this editorial. Mr. Roberts did email me prior to publishing; however, I was unable to contact him prior to his publishing the article. There were some minor errors in his editorial. Namely,

It was June 2004 that Crystal's family had her committed in Virginia. The 2005 committal was by Rogers County Special Judge Erin Oquin.

Her family and Safenet went court shopping prior the DHS case, relocating her and the children to Rogers County in an attempt to gain favor in a divorce and custody case. Crystal was court ordered committed prior to their plan being fruitful.

It was two evaluations that I was forced to undergo; one psychological report from a workcomp case; the psychologist we consulted for marriage counseling; a DVIS/Tulsa counselor; with a total of six evaluations and a seventh evaluation was requested. All evaluations showed no evidence of any alleged mental issue.

It was a male examiner from DVIS/Tulsa that Safenet attempted to get terminated.

It has now been nearly a year with no contact from Crystal to the children. Attempts to contact her or her attorney have gone unanswered.

If anyone knows who her current attorney is, please have the attorney contact me to discuss visitations, phone visitations, child support and the children's health.

Jim A. Hall
PO Box 273
Monticello, Arkansas

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#2 Oct 11, 2008
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Common Sense

Keller, TX

#3 Oct 20, 2008
The director of Safe Net is a fine upstanding person who does a lot of good things for a lot of people who need it. Leave Safe Net alone, you Prick!

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#4 Dec 6, 2008
The director of SafeNet Services, Donna Grabow committed acts of child abuse against my children. Judge Dean believed it so much taht he isued the permenant order that she and her advocates could not come into contact with my children. Judge Dean even expelled her from his court room on May 30, 2007. As a certified domestic violence victim advocate, I know what she did was wrong, criminal and abusive. So did Judge Dean.

Grabow should resign, issue a public appology to my children and make restitution to them for the damages hat she caused.We will let a jury decide what she owes the children....meanwhile, raed about our Governmental Tort Claim at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OK_DHS_Victims/...
justice_denied

Oklahoma City, OK

#5 Dec 17, 2008
i would be more than happy to take her position.

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#6 Feb 4, 2009
justice_denied wrote:
i would be more than happy to take her position.
I know of several that would love to take SafeNet over. Anyone would be better than a director taht would take advantage of a mentally ill woman. If my children are to be believed, and Judge Gary Dean believed them, then the current director of SafeNet had an illicit same gender affair with a client. According to Statute, that would be an act of rape. Sure wished she would sue me for libel and slander, then my children could tell a jury just how evil a person thsi SafeNet director really is.

We have wondered how many victims of SafeNet there really are. How much money has been misused? What is the director's salary? So amny questions. Please Donna Grabow, sue me so we can expose you for the evil, sadistic and perverted person that you truly are!

Remember, you and all of your advocates are under a judicial order to not come in contact with the children. Any violation of that order lands you in a Mayes County jail.

Judge Dean stated that the credibility of SafeNet was greatly questioned.

http://www.donhaslam.com/cases/civ-2.html

“Caring father.”

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#7 Sep 9, 2009
Hall v OKDHS Case No. 09 CV - 560 JHP PJC filed 8/28/2009

To read the entire complaint filed August 28, 2009 in IN THE UNITED STATES
DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF OKLAHOMA

JAMES A. HALL, individually, and as )
parent and next kin of B.H., D.H., J.H.,)
J.H., AND N.H., All Minor Children,)
)
Plaintiffs,)

Case No. 09 CV - 560 JHP PJC
)
vs.)
) JURY TRIAL DEMANDED
STATE OF OKLAHOMA, ex rel.,)
OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF )
HUMAN SERVICES, SAFENET )
SERVICES, Inc., an Oklahoma nonprofit )
corporation, and DONNA MARY GRABOW,)
an individual.)
)
Defendants.) ATTORNEY'S LIEN CLAIMED

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OK_DHS_Victims/...

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#8 Sep 9, 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OK_DHS_Victims/...

SECOND CAUSE OF ACTION
Safenet Services, Inc., and Donna Mary Grabow, individually commit negligence in
violation of 51 O.S.§151, et seq.
30. Plaintiffs replead paragraphs 1 through 29 as though fully set forth herein.
31. Defendants Safenet Services, Inc., and Donna Mary Grabow, acting within the
scope of their employment and compensation with the Defendant Oklahoma Department of
Human Services had undertaken to provide and render services to Plaintiff James A. Hall’s
children: B.H., D.H., J.H., J.H., and N.H., all minor children. Defendants Safenet Services Inc.
and Donna Mary Grabow were negligent in failing to act reasonably in rendering services to the
aforementioned minor children for the protection of said minor children and protection of the
parent-child relationship with their father, Plaintiff James A. Hall.
32. Defendant Donna Mary Grabow, acting within the scope of her employment,
failed to adequately protect Plaintiffs, and in fact allowed or caused physical and emotional
abuse of Plaintiffs while Plaintiffs were residing with their natural mother at Safenet Services,
Inc.
33. Defendant Donna Mary Grabow, acting within the scope of her employment,
interfered with Plaintiffs’ relationship with their father by telling them falsehoods about
Defendant James Hall and the circumstances surrounding their separation from him.
34. As a result of these Defendants’ acts of negligence, as set forth above, Plaintiffs
endured physical and mental suffering, pain and anguish, loss of companionship and damage to
the parent-child relationship, and for all the foregoing, Plaintiffs have been damaged in excess of
$75,000, exclusive of interest and costs.

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#9 Sep 10, 2009
Oh, if anyone is near Monticello, Arkansas, stop by our roadside farm stand and visit with me. Would love to see some of our old friends from Claremore. Jim’s Farm Stand is located on US Highway 425, about a block north of Hwy 278, in Monticello.
Carey Roberts fan

Little Rock, AR

#11 Sep 21, 2009
Date Filed # Docket Text
08/28/2009 1 CIVIL COVER SHEET by James A Hall (sjm, Dpty Clk)(Entered: 08/31/2009)
08/28/2009 2 COMPLAINT with Jury Demand against State of Oklahoma, Safenet Services, Inc., Donna Mary Grabow by James A Hall (sjm, Dpty Clk)(Entered: 08/31/2009)
08/28/2009 3 SUMMONS Issued by Court Clerk as to State of Oklahoma, Safenet Services, Inc., Donna Mary Grabow (sjm, Dpty Clk)(Entered: 08/31/2009)
08/28/2009 4 FILING FEES Paid in Full by James A Hall (sjm, Dpty Clk)(Entered: 08/31/2009)
08/31/2009 5 AMENDED COMPLAINT with Jury Demand against all defendants (Re: 2 Complaint ) by James A Hall (Meier, Gregory)(Entered: 08/31/2009)
09/01/2009 6 MINUTE ORDER by Court Clerk, directing Angeline S. Morris and June A. Stanley to file a Motion for Admission Pro Hac Vice per Local Civil Rule 83.2. Additionally, if you intend to practice in this district in the future and want to become a member of this district, please submit an application for attorney admission.(lal, Dpty Clk)(Entered: 09/01/2009)
09/18/2009 7 ATTORNEY APPEARANCE by Jed Wade Isbell on behalf of Safenet Services, Inc., Donna Mary Grabow (Isbell, Jed)(Entered: 09/18/2009)
09/18/2009 8 Agreed MOTION for Extension of Time to Answer or Otherwise Respond (Re: 5 Amended Complaint ) by Safenet Services, Inc., Donna Mary Grabow (Isbell, Jed)(Entered: 09/18/2009)
09/18/2009 9 CORPORATE DISCLOSURE STATEMENT by Safenet Services, Inc.(Isbell, Jed)(Entered: 09/18/2009)
09/21/2009 10 MINUTE ORDER by Court Clerk, directing Safenet Services, Inc. to file a Corporate Disclosure Statement pursuant to FRCvP 7.1 within five (5) days of this order, if they have not already done so. The parties shall use the form entitled Corporate Disclosure Statement available on the Courts website (please do not refile if already filed on non-court form unless directed to do so). If you have already filed your Corporate Disclosure Statement in this case, you are reminded to file a Supplemental Corporate Disclosure Statement within a reasonable time of any change in the information that the statement requires.(s-srb, Dpty Clk)(Entered: 09/21/2009)
09/21/2009 11 ATTORNEY APPEARANCE by Robert Dale James on behalf of Safenet Services, Inc., Donna Mary Grabow (James, Robert)(Entered: 09/21/2009)

https://ecf.oknd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/DktRpt....
W Moore

United States

#13 Oct 8, 2009
A family recently violated by OKDHS is seeking others who have interest in being included in a possible class action lawsuit. Anyone interested should contact "Family Bond Matters" <familybondmatters@ comcast.net >

Grandparents/ relatives who have been wrongly denied custody/adoption of children in DHS custody are especially encouraged to inquire.

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#14 Oct 8, 2009
http://www.examiner.com/x-12866-Domestic-Viol...

A West Virginia court has found that the fundamental beliefs of the West Virginia Coaliton Against Domestic Violence (which the court refers to as a "private trade association") are "gender-biased," and this violates the terms of the state's Domestic Violence Act. The court also says: "Every person, regardless of gender, enjoys a statutory right to participation in and receipt of domestic violence services offered by facilities licensed and funded in whole or in part by the state of West Virginia."



The situation, and the ruling are of course somewhat more complex than that, but that's the basis of the ruling. The full document, released earlier today, is here. http://www.scribd.com/doc/20731140/Findings-o...



West Virginia is the second state to rule that women-only shelters and men-only "batterer's" programs are in fact, illegal. California was the first, in 2008.



This could have major implications for the federal Violence Against Women Act, and its many administering agencies, which include the so-called "coalitions against domestic violence" in each state. VAWA is due for reauthorization next year.



In its 15-year lifespan, VAWA has been responsible for a major change in the way domestic violence is approached in the United States. Accounting for billions in federal dollars, about 2000 women's shelters, a nationwide hotline and other programs have been established. Literally millions of people have been trained in its precepts, which many victim's advocates have claimed are outdated, biased and ineffective.
XXXX

Keller, TX

#15 Oct 9, 2009
You would have liked that in Oklahoma back when your ex-wife was being protected, wouldn't you? It drove you NUTS that you couldn't get to her! You proved that when you used to follow her to find out where she was staying. You stalked her. I know you did.......ever wonder who was following YOU????

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#16 Oct 9, 2009
XXXX wrote:
You would have liked that in Oklahoma back when your ex-wife was being protected, wouldn't you? It drove you NUTS that you couldn't get to her! You proved that when you used to follow her to find out where she was staying. You stalked her. I know you did.......ever wonder who was following YOU????
That allegation came up in court in a VPO hearing. As a Pro Se litigant, I proved my case and innocence without calling a single witness or presenting any evidence. In cross examination of Crystal’s witnesses I proved the allegation was hearsay. No witness could provide any evidence that I followed them. On May 30, 2007 my son pointed out the location of the Safenet shelter. I can fully understand how a psychopathic child abuser could construe that the children were being followed. Note: On January 18, 2008 all VPO's were EXPUNGED. This allegation is again libelous and slanderous. At that VPO hearing Safenet convinced the mayor of Claremore, a local attorney named Brant Shalenburger, to represent Crystal pro bono. Brant called Crystal, an OKDHS case worker, a Safenet advocate and a CASA volunteer. All admitted to only knowing hearsay, including Crystal. The CASA was ordered to STEP DOWN by the Judge. This was our first hearing before Judge Gary Dean. If anyone had followed me around Claremore, they would have testified that day to my alleged actions.

So let me see if I understand you: You admit that I was being followed, or stalked while in Claremore. Thank you for making our case stronger. Perhaps the federal judge in Tulsa will issue an order to Topix to reveal your identity. You would be a great witness to prove SafeNet was stalking me.

Have you hired that lawyer in Drew County yet? Just three more days left!
XXXX

Keller, TX

#17 Oct 10, 2009
Hmmm.....funny how memories differ....That's not exactly how I remember it happening from my seat in back, right corner of the court room.....
As I remember, you were sweating profusely, were red in the face, and stuttered a lot...not sure it all came out like you stated either....No, I'm positive it didn't, now that I think about it.

Again. James. Try telling THE TRUTH.

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

http://hallcase.bravehost.com

#18 Oct 10, 2009
XXXX wrote:
Hmmm.....funny how memories differ....That's not exactly how I remember it happening from my seat in back, right corner of the court room.....
As I remember, you were sweating profusely, were red in the face, and stuttered a lot...not sure it all came out like you stated either....No, I'm positive it didn't, now that I think about it.
Again. James. Try telling THE TRUTH.
You were no where near that courtroom. It was cleared before the VPO started. All witnesses where removed per Court Rules, at my request. Next time you wish to post a sladerous lie, be sure you have some facts straight. Again you prove all you know is hearsay. The VPO was denied and dismissed, lack of evidence and later ordered EXPUNGED. See the Order to Expung here: http://www.rogerscountygrandjury.com/files/Or...

I did post the wrong date of the Expungement hearing. It was January 16, 2008.

Just one more business day left to hire that Drew County attorney. For those who are wondering, Crystal was served on September 12, 2009 with court papers for a step-parent adoption. She personally signed the green card. If she does not respond, her parental rights will be terminated and my wife will be permitted to adopt the children. If she does respond, the truth will be presented AGAIN, her rights will be terminated (as Judge Dean wished) and my wife will adopt our children. Oh, hearsay is not allowed in a Drew County court either.

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#19 Oct 10, 2009
Ok, there was one "court officer" in the courtroom at the VPO, Patty. So are you claiming to be Patty? The same Patty who violated numerous laws to bring five false VPOs against me?
wildman pete

San Francisco, CA

#20 Oct 10, 2009
Hey Jim are you and commissioner kirt thacker buddies? I hear he is now pushing for a grand jury to look into alledged murders. Who do you to think you are? You need to sell your fruit and he needs to take care of the roads!

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#21 Oct 10, 2009
wildman pete wrote:
Hey Jim are you and commissioner kirt thacker buddies? I hear he is now pushing for a grand jury to look into alledged murders. Who do you to think you are? You need to sell your fruit and he needs to take care of the roads!
No, we are not friends. however, an Okalhoma County Commissioner is responsible for ALL money spent in County government. That would include the various county agencies. Court clerk, county clerk, DA etc. So a county commissioner is not only qualified to seek a grand jury, it is his obligation to request a grand jury to investigate how money is spent.

As for me, Rogers County wrongfully held my children for two years. A federal jury will decide how many $$$$ that mistake will cost. Theses criminials should be required to pay with their freedom! Each should serve at least some jail time.

Would like to know what business Rogers County is to someone in Houston TX?

“Caring father.”

Since: Feb 08

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#22 Oct 10, 2009
Back to the reason this thread exist: The exposure of criminal behaviour by Safenet director and advocates.

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/roberts/0...

By Carey Roberts

What happens when an abuse shelter engages in conduct that is so unethical and bizarre that the public almost can't believe the magnitude of the travesty? Read on and decide for yourself.

Crystal D. Hall of McIntosh County, Okla. was the wife of James Hall and the mother of five. She also had a severe mental illness that required her to take anti-psychotic medications.

Sometime in mid-2005 Mrs. Hall became convinced that she and the children were being emotionally abused by James. In July of that year, Crystal's family had her admitted to a local mental health facility. And the state Department of Human Services took custody of the children.

What followed over the ensuing two and a half years was a series of legal maneuvers, investigations, jurisdictional disputes, hearings, appeals, and judicial reversals, all stemming from the unsubstantiated allegation that Mr. Hall was an abuser.

Of course county officials investigated the allegation, discovering no evidence of child abuse.

But the SafeNet shelter in Claremore, Okla. decided to get in on the act. The shelter's tax return reveals annual revenues in the neighborhood of $640,000. Oddly, the tax forms do not disclose the executive director's compensation package.

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