Retired Claremont teachers unhappy wi...

Retired Claremont teachers unhappy with being charged for health in...

There are 79 comments on the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin story from Sep 9, 2010, titled Retired Claremont teachers unhappy with being charged for health in.... In it, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin reports that:

Some retired Claremont Unified School District teachers are not happy to find that they will have to now be charged monthly for health benefits.

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CaptAmerica

Lake Memphremagog, VT

#1 Sep 9, 2010
Well GOSH, whatta surprise! OBAMACARE SUCKS, and ya know folks, the FULL pain won't be felt until 2014 when this debacle fully rolls out.

"The reason for the increase is rising insurance costs, Shoemaker said."

The reason the insurance costs are rising is OBAMACARE!

http://tinyurl.com/39kh3ce

I think it's absurd that the teacher's union is shocked that the insurance premiums are going up, the warnings were there way before Obamacare passed.

If the Obamacare book is shaking the teachers' union up, just wait for the sequel - it's gonna be a hum-dinger.

By the way, do YOU know how your elected representative voted on Obamacare?
Sure

Chino, CA

#2 Sep 9, 2010
CaptAmerica wrote:
Well GOSH, whatta surprise! OBAMACARE SUCKS, and ya know folks, the FULL pain won't be felt until 2014 when this debacle fully rolls out.
"The reason for the increase is rising insurance costs, Shoemaker said."
The reason the insurance costs are rising is OBAMACARE!
http://tinyurl.com/39kh3ce
I think it's absurd that the teacher's union is shocked that the insurance premiums are going up, the warnings were there way before Obamacare passed.
If the Obamacare book is shaking the teachers' union up, just wait for the sequel - it's gonna be a hum-dinger.
By the way, do YOU know how your elected representative voted on Obamacare?
Umm, how much did insurance go up each year before Obama was elected? How about the insurance company profits...also going up? Get your facts right before you spew the conservative line.
CaptAmerica

Lake Memphremagog, VT

#3 Sep 9, 2010
Sure wrote:
<quoted text>
Umm, how much did insurance go up each year before Obama was elected? How about the insurance company profits...also going up? Get your facts right before you spew the conservative line.
I have my facts right, it is you who are wallowing in the swamp of your misconceptions and ignorance. My premiums only went up at a rate of about 1% per year until Obamacare arrived. Now my insurer just announced that it will be rising by 9%- IMMEDIATELY.

The Democrats really gave the Health Insurance Companies love on Obamacare - 30 Million new customers. You might ask yourself what the Democrats got in return for all of the business they sent to the health insurance companies, but you probably won't.

Your denial of the problem will do nothing to solve it.
Rufus T Firefly

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#4 Sep 9, 2010
Hey teachers, wake up and smell the coffee, your old contract agreements are just too much to handle. State worker union members have to face reality that they can't keep the same level of benefits with this economy. Something has to give and you can thank your union bosses and stupid progressives in Sacramento for your inconvenience.
getcyrious

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Sep 9, 2010
Another union cry baby, welcome to the real world most people live in. Some people actually have to fund their own retirement.

Since: Apr 10

Claremont, CA

#6 Sep 9, 2010
CaptAmerica wrote:
Well GOSH, whatta surprise! OBAMACARE SUCKS, and ya know folks, the FULL pain won't be felt until 2014 when this debacle fully rolls out.
"The reason for the increase is rising insurance costs, Shoemaker said."
The reason the insurance costs are rising is OBAMACARE!
http://tinyurl.com/39kh3ce
I think it's absurd that the teacher's union is shocked that the insurance premiums are going up, the warnings were there way before Obamacare passed.
If the Obamacare book is shaking the teachers' union up, just wait for the sequel - it's gonna be a hum-dinger.
By the way, do YOU know how your elected representative voted on Obamacare?


It has nothing to do with "Obamacare". The for-profit insurance companies started raising group premiums, before the health care bill was even introduced. I have been retired from a local muni for three years now. The health coverage benefit, that I receive for working 25+ years, is capped at $532/mo. Premiums are continuing to grow, and are now over $700/mo. My responsibility to my former employer, for both me and my spouse, for ABC medical insurance that serves only as a supplement to Medicare, is now a total of $1057/mo. In addition, we must pay a total of $207/mo for Medicare coverage. Some retiree health benefit!
CaptAmerica

Lake Memphremagog, VT

#7 Sep 9, 2010
the real SAW wrote:
<quoted text>
It has nothing to do with "Obamacare". The for-profit insurance companies started raising group premiums, before the health care bill was even introduced. I have been retired from a local muni for three years now. The health coverage benefit, that I receive for working 25+ years, is capped at $532/mo. Premiums are continuing to grow, and are now over $700/mo. My responsibility to my former employer, for both me and my spouse, for ABC medical insurance that serves only as a supplement to Medicare, is now a total of $1057/mo. In addition, we must pay a total of $207/mo for Medicare coverage. Some retiree health benefit!
I don't buy that the timing of the implementation of insurance premiums (where none existed before) for retired teachers under 65 is mere coincidence. I don't buy that the immediate 9% premium increase I'm facing (representing 9 years of increases) is coincidence either.

This quote was taken from the article in question, "The reason for the increase is rising insurance costs, Shoemaker said." Even the mainstream media is carrying the reports of major insurance increases being linked to Obamacare. Sure, premiums have risen before, but nothing like it is being reported you will see in the near term.

Why do you think the Democrats are remaining silent on Obamacare during their reelection campaigns? If they were proud of this accomplishment wouldn't they be screaming about their participation in it?

We will be paying dearly for the 2,000 pages that no one really understands.
PJsaid

Victorville, CA

#8 Sep 9, 2010
Hey Teachers..... Hello..... Welcome to the real world. Stop complaining. $115 single and $225 w/spouse is not a bad deal.
Nobody Rides For Free

Ontario, CA

#9 Sep 10, 2010
My coverage from Kaiser was stable for quite a while. Now, my premiums have jumped.

The new Health Care Bill forces Insurance Companies to accept those with "pre-existing" conditions. It removes any lifetime cap on coverage. It also forces employers to provide coverage for children into their mid-twenties.

Good for some people, bad for others. But those changes do cost money.

Those are the facts, now Claremont retirees - and "the real SAW" and "Sure" - have to face them.
Money Grows on Trees

Middleton, WI

#11 Sep 10, 2010
Money grows on trees remember? Times are changing, so should you. Should have financed your budget better if you can't afford it...
Joe moma

United States

#12 Sep 10, 2010
For raises and benefits and those types of things," Shoemaker said. "There has to be a happy medium. Really what it came down to is trying to treat everybody the same."

** So they opt to break the contract ......foolish, If the retired teachers sue, then the district will loose and loose big ! They'll have to pay court costs and attornery fees and repay that money they took or charged. I hate it when they always say when they attempt to hide...., We believe the language is consistent. Foolish attempt, get ready for a court fight bottom line.
Jim

Temecula, CA

#13 Sep 10, 2010
They all voted for Obama so everyone can have health care - well guess what now you can PAY for it!!!
Joe moma

United States

#14 Sep 10, 2010
Rufus T Firefly wrote:
Hey teachers, wake up and smell the coffee, your old contract agreements are just too much to handle. State worker union members have to face reality that they can't keep the same level of benefits with this economy. Something has to give and you can thank your union bosses and stupid progressives in Sacramento for your inconvenience.
good times or bad times, the district is to blame....A contract is a contract, the district should have budgeted better ! not the teacher !
vrocket

Denver, CO

#15 Sep 10, 2010
Join the rest of the world. Quit complaining your getting more than most
ONT

Culver City, CA

#16 Sep 10, 2010
It is so sad to see that some one who served the public for so long and put up with so much BS has to now pay for medical in retirement. I am so sorry for what this country has done to those who serve.
PT Readerr

Whittier, CA

#17 Sep 10, 2010
That's bullsh$t!
PT Readerr

Whittier, CA

#18 Sep 10, 2010
vrocket wrote:
Join the rest of the world. Quit complaining your getting more than most
You are a fool.
PT Readerr

Whittier, CA

#19 Sep 10, 2010
Money Grows on Trees wrote:
Money grows on trees remember? Times are changing, so should you. Should have financed your budget better if you can't afford it...
Well you work for 30 years understanding you won't pay, retire and then fooled you you do pay. Now doesn't that just seem so far to a far minded person like you.
Teacher

Upland, CA

#20 Sep 10, 2010
ONT wrote:
It is so sad to see that some one who served the public for so long and put up with so much BS has to now pay for medical in retirement. I am so sorry for what this country has done to those who serve.
Thank you.
Kim

Kapolei, HI

#21 Sep 10, 2010
Our whole health insurance system is ready to collapse. HCR mandates should already be in place and not kick in until 2014.

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