Claremont school bond measure draws opposition

Voters will decide Nov. 2 whether the school district should issue $95million in facilities bonds under Measure CL. Full Story
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Kim

Chino Hills, CA

#2 Oct 25, 2010
No more taxes.
Never Again

Newport Beach, CA

#3 Oct 25, 2010
They Lied the last time now they are asking for more without clearly defining what it will be spent on. They can finance salaries and computers over the life of the bonds which is plain stupid. Vote No.......
Claremont Teacher

Ontario, CA

#4 Oct 25, 2010
We need to invest in our students.
Claremont worker

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#5 Oct 25, 2010
The bond also says funds will be used to pay teacher salaries! CUSD mismanaged the first bond we are still paying off, now they want another bond that is twice as much, NO WAY

Vote NO on CL (Claremont Loses)!
Kim

Chino Hills, CA

#6 Oct 25, 2010
Do you really think any claremont student will see that $?
SunCityGuy

Irvine, CA

#7 Oct 25, 2010
Claremont Teacher wrote:
We need to invest in our students.
A better investment would be swamp land in Florida. The bond money will be wasted not invested in students. Private sector company employees are struggling while school employees have a cushy job. We may lose our house. Now you want more tax money???
Kim Breen

AOL

#8 Oct 25, 2010
What message does it send to our students to learn in a converted closet? What message does it send that buildings and classrooms are in need of repair and no one fixes them? Do you think any of these issues occur in Wall Street? Yet, we the taxpayers bailed them out. Hmmm...... Come on folks we are educating the next generation and they deserve the very best!
Kim Reynolds

Diamond Bar, CA

#9 Oct 25, 2010
This bond will NOT go to students or building repairs - I repeat, it will not go towards these things. What this will go towards are the triple-digit salaries and retirement plans of these employees, and will raise the property taxes of home owners. This is what the last bond that was passed by the Claremont district accomplished. They are lying now as they were lying then. If this measure passes, it will cause countless problems for people who are currently struggling to keep their houses when their property taxes hit the roof.
Taxed Enough

Claremont, CA

#10 Oct 25, 2010
I think it is strange that reporters were shown only two school sites...what about the others? I am sure the teacher who is teaching in a converted closet could be accommodated with existing space. How much does a modular cost to rent/lease per month? Has to be a lot less that $95 million. People just need to think a little more.
Wasnt There

Diamond Bar, CA

#11 Oct 25, 2010
Why would we keep rewarding patently profligate policies?
Vote NO on CL.
concerned citizen

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#12 Oct 25, 2010
What kind of Police Officer wears his uniform on "his day off". I guess the kind that wants to use the cover of his office to sell a bond measure.
Wallstreet Gangster

Ontario, CA

#13 Oct 25, 2010
Kim Reynolds wrote:
This bond will NOT go to students or building repairs - I repeat, it will not go towards these things. What this will go towards are the triple-digit salaries and retirement plans of these employees, and will raise the property taxes of home owners. This is what the last bond that was passed by the Claremont district accomplished. They are lying now as they were lying then. If this measure passes, it will cause countless problems for people who are currently struggling to keep their houses when their property taxes hit the roof.
I already pay almost $7k a year in property taxes and my kids have never used the school system, Get all the Pomona kids they let go to our schools fund this bond.
Wallstreet Gangster

Ontario, CA

#14 Oct 25, 2010
Kim Breen wrote:
What message does it send to our students to learn in a converted closet? What message does it send that buildings and classrooms are in need of repair and no one fixes them? Do you think any of these issues occur in Wall Street? Yet, we the taxpayers bailed them out. Hmmm...... Come on folks we are educating the next generation and they deserve the very best!
Then you pay for it. Go buy lotto tickets it's gonna be expensive hiring union contractors.
Wallstreet Gangster

Ontario, CA

#15 Oct 25, 2010
Claremont Teacher wrote:
We need to invest in our students.
We need to get our return back from our last investment that I'm still paying for.
Joe moma

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#16 Oct 25, 2010
Hmmm, They said the same thing for Bonita in San Dimas, so far they huge overages in construction costs, theft of computers and everything else not nailed down that were put into storage while they moved the kids into portable classroon while wotking on the buildings. Seems like the same budder ALWAYS got the job, low bid usaully means they are cutting corners or the " NOT IN THE CONTRACT" meant that the district had to pay three times as much to complete certain items which in turn took money away from completing the entire project. I don't think this is the climate for double taxation of the community. Be very aware that all kinds of reasons the main contracter will come up with jacking up the price, you can't give a "LOW BID" and stay in business.....ever. There WILL BE add-on's, You will see hundreds of these statements: IE; Approve Change Order #5 Bid 08-09:07-Revision 01 for construction of modernization projects at xxxxxxxx. And there will be HUNDREDS, that's the way the contractor makes money, he doesn't make it on the original bid...ever. All I can say is BEWARE.
Joe moma

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#17 Oct 25, 2010
Kim Reynolds wrote:
This bond will NOT go to students or building repairs - I repeat, it will not go towards these things. What this will go towards are the triple-digit salaries and retirement plans of these employees, and will raise the property taxes of home owners. This is what the last bond that was passed by the Claremont district accomplished. They are lying now as they were lying then. If this measure passes, it will cause countless problems for people who are currently struggling to keep their houses when their property taxes hit the roof.
This is untrue !, I'm not for the bond by any means but your statement is untrue period. California State law does not allow the money to be spent on anything not related to contruction, plus they have to have an oversight commitee check on the budget for construction, they can in NO-WAY use the money for salaries or benefits....BUT by law they have to maintain/retain 7% for the facilities dept. to add-on appropiate personel/equipment to maintain said re-models/new construction (service trucks, forklifts,tools,employees, whatever they need)(but they cannot use the money to pay for any employees). Having recently lived through this very bond.....it's not something I would want to see again !
Claremont Mom

Mira Loma, CA

#18 Oct 25, 2010
This bond was a backroom deal to get the teacher's union to accept the budget - with the promise that the bond would free up budget money to cover salaries. In every other line of government, workers are taking paycuts, furlough days, etc, but the Claremont Teachers union can't meet the district halfway. I also question the district's spending practices on consultants for this bond measure and high-priced legal council. I say enough is enough. Place a well-thought out bond measure on the ballot that lists priorities that are legitimate (financing computers over 30 years - does that make sense with changing technology) and truly serve the needs of our children. Let your voice be heard and vote NO ON CL!
stewie

Newport Beach, CA

#19 Oct 25, 2010
Kim Breen wrote:
What message does it send to our students to learn in a converted closet? What message does it send that buildings and classrooms are in need of repair and no one fixes them? Do you think any of these issues occur in Wall Street? Yet, we the taxpayers bailed them out. Hmmm...... Come on folks we are educating the next generation and they deserve the very best!
Get rid of the out of district students and the space problem is solved. I am tired of hearing "It is for the Children". That argument is thrown out when you can't think of a real reason. Per student spending has gone up virtually every year and the quality of the graduate goes down. They lied about not building a staduim with the the last bond money but they did so I do not believe anything they say. Also look at who is giving to the Yes campaign, contactors who stand to benefit from the money. You need to stop drinking the Kool-aid. NO ON C.......
Joe

Diamond Bar, CA

#20 Oct 25, 2010
Im voting No! I already pay too much in property taxes for kids from outer districts to benefit from! They need to pay their fair share!
BitterTaxpayer

Irvine, CA

#21 Oct 25, 2010
Kim Breen wrote:
What message does it send to our students to learn in a converted closet? What message does it send that buildings and classrooms are in need of repair and no one fixes them? Do you think any of these issues occur in Wall Street? Yet, we the taxpayers bailed them out. Hmmm...... Come on folks we are educating the next generation and they deserve the very best!
A child can learn from a good teacher outside in a snow storm. They will learn less in a beautiful and expensive classroom with some teacher union thug! VOTE NO!!

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