California Proposition 19: the Mariju...

California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 7, 2010

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mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#12190 Sep 22, 2012
ill have to admit...
you were right about it never being a 400$ fine.

but it was a misdemeanor, and now it is an infraction....so we're both right.

except you got the date wrong by a year.

it was jan 1975!

check wiki
"states that have decriminalized marijuana"

and dont take the whole romney going down in flames thing too hard. you can always join us on the progressive side of politics.
The Swede

Vacaville, CA

#12191 Sep 22, 2012
Jeff wrote:
one more time, for those who've got caught up in all that postmodern science so falsely called propaganda that the ONDCP and just say no types put out:
There is a certain contrasting quality between judgments within the world view of the ONDCP and Christian theology. NO Bible believing Christian would accept any "toxicology" studies or reports from the ONDCP if they knew the axioms that were used to build their studies. One must "Test The Evidences" that come from outside Scripture. The "everything is toxic" philosophy embraced by the ONDCP and FDA is the exact opposite of sound Christian theology, and the corollary truths built upon it are not Biblically founded, and can be proven to be Biblically incorrect. And if it's not Theologically true, if it's not true in the Bible, than it isn't true at all.I am a false Profit and God is a superstition
The Scripture's warnings against these gobldy gook no proof philosophies are traditionally viewed as warnings about the Gnostics of the second century. It was a blending of Jewish, Greek, or Eastern philosophy with Christianity. These Gnostic errors are widespread, they appear would you like to go bowlingcentury after century, and shows itself in many forms of religion, not merely in distorted forms of Christianity. In life application today, we can see that same Gnostic germ resurface in our society in the influence of modernism and postmodernism. The war against cannabis is a frightening illustration, in that it is successful in stifling Evangelism within the local Church, and not many Leaders recognize what's going on, despite the fact that it devastates the lives of millions in perdition. This ascetic teaching is unnatural, contrary to the constitution of the world as that has been arranged by a holy and wise Creator, and it is also subversive of Christian liberty. Nothing can be esteemed common or unclean without throwing a reproach upon the Creator. In summary, the Christian world view cannabis prohibition is different than the ONDCP world view. In the ONDCP world view, it's "just say no". In the Christian world view, it's "be ye sober".
Sources
-International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
-Theological Dictionary of the New Testament
-Systematic Theology, Dr Norman Geisler
-Systematic Theology Wayne Grudem
-Discourse with New Mexico University Toxicology instructor in conjunction with the Office of National Drug Control Policy (not public)
Supporting Scriptures (chapters)
Matthew 11
Romans 14
Ephesians 2
Colossians 2
1 Timothy 4
Titus 1
Revelation 2,(Pergamos)
Supporting Traditions-
just look here
http://www.lucashempco.com/cms/node/19
is false profit and fairy tale
Buffered

West Covina, CA

#12192 Sep 22, 2012
If it were only true?

But it is,just watch for yourself: motherjones.com
The Swede

Vacaville, CA

#12193 Sep 22, 2012
I have been to all churches including mormon and it is all a joke so people with wesk mi can be controlled and hopefully see right from wrong and good from evil and give money to people that use tax free status to spout faity tales that cannot be proven in any way period and hope for some magic thing to erase all the rotten things they do and pretemd they are great.
Kilter

West Covina, CA

#12194 Sep 22, 2012
No swedes today, they are all on holiday.

motherjones.com
tim norris

Lewis Center, OH

#12195 Sep 22, 2012
Hello
Sizzered

West Covina, CA

#12196 Sep 22, 2012
Plum pudding is being served tonight.

motherjones.com
NoBlamer 2012

Mt Meadows Area, CA

#12197 Sep 22, 2012
mitt goldwater wrote:
<quoted text>
was 1976 when it was originally decrminalized??
thanks for the info.
but it was further decriminalized starting january 2010
from a 400 dollar misdemeanor that required a court appearance
.....to a 100 dollar infraction.
look it up.
I ddnt say decriminalized moron

I said
"could not be put in jail for smoking pot"

learn to read loser

I wasnt talking to you
dont post to me

its not my job to explain anything to a loser moron like you

go away

you are an idiot and a pest

not intetested in anything you have to say
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#12198 Sep 23, 2012
NoBlamer 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
I ddnt say decriminalized moron
I said
"could not be put in jail for smoking pot"
learn to read loser
I wasnt talking to you
dont post to me
its not my job to explain anything to a loser moron like you
go away
you are an idiot and a pest
not intetested in anything you have to say
boy your really a soar loser over romney going down in flames....

im going to ANYTHING but leave you alone.

im going to debunk your foolish rebuttlicken tripe.

Ps: if were talking about "keeping people out of jail" then were definately talking about "decriminalization"

but your general lack of understanding, has left you short changed again.

decrimianlization MEANS keeping people out of jail.....fool.
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#12199 Sep 23, 2012
glad to hear im annoying you....
now write something else pro romney, so i can make you feel even worse!!
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#12200 Sep 23, 2012
this is fun
Sizzored

West Covina, CA

#12201 Sep 23, 2012
Willard Mitt Romney thinks running for president of United States of America is like being an entrepreneur:

"You create a product, and then you sell it."

So far he's doing a lousy job of both, th only buyers are the dim-witted Republican / Tea Party Nation member's.

motherjones.com

Even with the so called help from his wife Ann Romney, and her horse farm animals.
Dan the man

Phelan, CA

#12202 Sep 23, 2012
Just legalize it tax it and regulate it cuz its never gonna stop so you might as well make money instead of wasting BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Seriously is the government that stupid? Even I can see legalizing it is the only way to get a hold of it. It will eliminate the cartels from selling it cuz we can get it legally in the states. Think about it
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#12203 Sep 23, 2012
Dan the man wrote:
Just legalize it tax it and regulate it cuz its never gonna stop so you might as well make money instead of wasting BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Seriously is the government that stupid? Even I can see legalizing it is the only way to get a hold of it. It will eliminate the cartels from selling it cuz we can get it legally in the states. Think about it
Dan
I agree we should make it legal, put an age limit on it like beer. I'm wondering if it's legal if there will be much money for the Government since everyone will just grow it themselves. The cops make make more money busting people. Pot is big money for the cops. I doubt a cop will say make it legal.

Riccardo
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#12204 Sep 23, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Dan
I agree we should make it legal, put an age limit on it like beer. I'm wondering if it's legal if there will be much money for the Government since everyone will just grow it themselves. The cops make make more money busting people. Pot is big money for the cops. I doubt a cop will say make it legal.
Riccardo
it depends on the cops though doesnt it??

on raids, they will routinely take loads of ripe evidence from cases that arnt worth prosecuting.

not to mention theiving peoples equipment.

some cops are good cops though, and realize that the prohibition is the real enemy, not poeple's drug habits. sometimes those are the same cops!! strangly enough!

I say ....education over incarceration.

working WITH the medical MJ community will benfit each county much more than working AGAINST them. besides, no one can take conservatives seriously when they hide behide federal law, but HATE federal intervention on ANY other issue.!!!

a hypocracy i cant get any of you republicans to respond to.

because what does it accomplsh when authroiarian types9both parties) in govenment, lock up hordes of petty dealers, and have to house them??

on OUR dime, no less.

it accomplishes NOthing except ripping families apart, and hampering an otherwise productive life.

there are armies of cops across this nation that realize prohibition is what enables the mexican cartels to HAVE a market in the first place. the smart ones.....eh??

ps: my condolences about the mitt goldwater/ paul palin candidacy going to s**t.

biden/clinton 2016
LED needed

West Covina, CA

#12205 Sep 23, 2012
I've looked his "window to the soul" and it's pitch dark, Willard Mitt Romney brings only the worst.

motherjones.com
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#12206 Sep 23, 2012
mitt goldwater wrote:
<quoted text>
it depends on the cops though doesnt it??
on raids, they will routinely take loads of ripe evidence from cases that arnt worth prosecuting.
not to mention theiving peoples equipment.
some cops are good cops though, and realize that the prohibition is the real enemy, not poeple's drug habits. sometimes those are the same cops!! strangly enough!
I say ....education over incarceration.
working WITH the medical MJ community will benfit each county much more than working AGAINST them. besides, no one can take conservatives seriously when they hide behide federal law, but HATE federal intervention on ANY other issue.!!!
a hypocracy i cant get any of you republicans to respond to.
because what does it accomplsh when authroiarian types9both parties) in govenment, lock up hordes of petty dealers, and have to house them??
on OUR dime, no less.
it accomplishes NOthing except ripping families apart, and hampering an otherwise productive life.
there are armies of cops across this nation that realize prohibition is what enables the mexican cartels to HAVE a market in the first place. the smart ones.....eh??
ps: my condolences about the mitt goldwater/ paul palin candidacy going to s**t.
biden/clinton 2016
Im not in any party, I live here in CA. it's already decided, i have better things to do then vote. But I got a good laugh from your biden clinton joke....lol...thanks. and goldwater?
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#12207 Sep 23, 2012
Sizzored wrote:
Willard Mitt Romney thinks running for president of United States of America is like being an entrepreneur:
"You create a product, and then you sell it."
So far he's doing a lousy job of both, th only buyers are the dim-witted Republican / Tea Party Nation member's.
motherjones.com
Even with the so called help from his wife Ann Romney, and her horse farm animals.
the republicans will have a schizm in their party until they overthrow the will of the tea baggers, and relent from the orthodoxy that is literly tearing their party in two.

the tea bagger otheodoxy I speak of only allows whites to participate in the political process...

the orthodoxy i speak of, seeks to restrict womens health care in dozens of states, setting them back 50 years.

the orthodoxy seeks to limit people rights to vote by purging voters rolls with extreamly inaccurate methods.

the orthodoxy seeks to fix the econmoy by giving it the same medicine that wrecked it, when Bush was president.

......more tax cuts for the wealthy???, and less money to go around to the actual job creators, the middle class and their demand. balancing budgets on the backs of fire fighers and teachers?? while soaking their rich friends with tax loophole heaven....??? this is the america you baggers want??

the orthodoxy that seeks to alienate 47% of the population and marginalize the minorities and women??

how can such a party survive and expect to have a majority control(for long) in either house of congress.

the romney ryan campaign have certainly shown middle america where they stand on many issues by way of that secretly taped video. they have shown them they are not ready for the prime time pressures of the presidency...

and america is now starting to sway towards reeelcting the president.
LED needed

West Covina, CA

#12208 Sep 23, 2012
Lotion motion magic.

motherjones.com
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#12209 Sep 23, 2012
mitt goldwater wrote:
<quoted text>
the republicans will have a schizm in their party until they overthrow the will of the tea baggers, and relent from the orthodoxy that is literly tearing their party in two.
the tea bagger otheodoxy I speak of only allows whites to participate in the political process...
the orthodoxy i speak of, seeks to restrict womens health care in dozens of states, setting them back 50 years.
the orthodoxy seeks to limit people rights to vote by purging voters rolls with extreamly inaccurate methods.
the orthodoxy seeks to fix the econmoy by giving it the same medicine that wrecked it, when Bush was president.
......more tax cuts for the wealthy???, and less money to go around to the actual job creators, the middle class and their demand. balancing budgets on the backs of fire fighers and teachers?? while soaking their rich friends with tax loophole heaven....??? this is the america you baggers want??
the orthodoxy that seeks to alienate 47% of the population and marginalize the minorities and women??
how can such a party survive and expect to have a majority control(for long) in either house of congress.
the romney ryan campaign have certainly shown middle america where they stand on many issues by way of that secretly taped video. they have shown them they are not ready for the prime time pressures of the presidency...
and america is now starting to sway towards reeelcting the president.
Actually Romney has said the rich will have fewer deductions and will not have a cut. Do a factCheck, see who the rich are running our country. Pelosi's Feinstiens, Reid's....if President Obama wins reelection, he should probably start giving some serious thought to how he is going to justify bailing out GM, and its unionized UAW workforce, yet again. And, during the current campaign, Obama might want to be a little more modest about what he actually achieved by bailing out GM the first time.

Benghazi, Libya (CNN)-- Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.
While Obama was in Vegas and Hillary was wearing a grass skirt in the Cook islands.

How bout that change we got 4 years ago? DUPED!..LOL. How bout what that stimulus was going to do? GM? Solyndra? Guns for cartels? Arab Spring? DUPED....LOL.

US President Barack Obama’s Middle East policy is in ruins.

Fancy speeches don't create jobs.

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