Dozens rally outside West Covina hosp...

Dozens rally outside West Covina hospital as strike threat looms

There are 191 comments on the San Gabriel Valley Tribune story from Jun 2, 2010, titled Dozens rally outside West Covina hospital as strike threat looms. In it, San Gabriel Valley Tribune reports that:

Citrus Valley Medical Center Queen of the Valley Campus nurses and sympathizers rally support for a union contract at the West Covina facility June 2, 2010.

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Piece of Crap

Ontario, CA

#1 Jun 3, 2010
Give us more money! Give us more money!
They're lucky to have jobs..
They have jobs

Azusa, CA

#2 Jun 3, 2010
Piece of Crap wrote:
Give us more money! Give us more money!
They're lucky to have jobs..
This is exactly what I was thinking! Can anyone say SCABS. They are lucky to HAVE a job! I think I will just go on down and see what I can do for that hospital. Minimum wage is ok with me.......
CA RN

San Dimas, CA

#4 Jun 3, 2010
This is embarassing! They are lying if they say it is about safe patient ratios and lift teams, it is about money! The Union needs the money and dues of thousands of nurses to be able to pay politicians to do their bidding. Have any of these people read the news? Thousands of people are without jobs and healthcare reform is only going to take money away from hospitals. If they really care about their patients they wouldn't strike, they would actually take care of them! Go work somewhere else if you hate it so much!
CA RN

Norco, CA

#6 Jun 3, 2010
CA RN wrote:
This is embarassing! They are lying if they say it is about safe patient ratios and lift teams, it is about money! The Union needs the money and dues of thousands of nurses to be able to pay politicians to do their bidding. Have any of these people read the news? Thousands of people are without jobs and healthcare reform is only going to take money away from hospitals. If they really care about their patients they wouldn't strike, they would actually take care of them! Go work somewhere else if you hate it so much!
You go girl you said it, they are full of crap, it's all lies be happy you have a job and didn't get a pay cut like alot of people out there!
jesus

West Covina, CA

#7 Jun 3, 2010
maybe they haven't heard that there's a recession going on.
Yeah right

Sherman Oaks, CA

#8 Jun 3, 2010
"We care about our patients" so we're going on strike to fatten our retirements. If you need emergency treatment we might not be there cause we care so much. Kind of like the teachers who care so much and do such an outstanding job that they need a union and tenure.
Only concession

Mount Wilson, CA

#9 Jun 3, 2010
Lifting teams at night sounds worthwhile. Some of these women could injure themselves and that will cost us all money in the form of disability. No on the other concessions. I say this and my sister is a nurse.
QVC RN

Covina, CA

#10 Jun 3, 2010
I'm an RN at Queen of the Valley, and I do not support the strike. Some of us actually do care about the patients and are grateful to have a job. Citrus Valley is a great place to work. That's why so many nurse's have been there for 25+ yrs. The package they offer is very fair in these economic times. This is about the money, and "union greed" not corporate greed...it's embarrassing.
cvmc RN

Tujunga, CA

#11 Jun 3, 2010
"Full of crap" by the end of the shift you probably are "full of crap", wouldn't you like to have a true break and lunch without being called, how many times have you been in the bathroom and your phone starts ringing. That is not a true break or lunch. It is illegal and when you are at lunch and your co-worker is covering you, you are out of ratio. It is about maintaining patient safety, maintaining safe floating clusters, dedicated lift teams and preserving our profession!!!
CA RN wrote:
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You go girl you said it, they are full of crap, it's all lies be happy you have a job and didn't get a pay cut like alot of people out there!
QVC Employee

Norco, CA

#12 Jun 3, 2010
Hmmmmmm ... I was at the hospital all day yesterday and certainly never saw 200 picketers. I counted maybe 30 - maybe 35. And strangely enough, most of them didn't even look like employees - they were strangers brought in by the union in a bus! What do THEY know about Citrus Valley Medical Center? What right do they have to carry around signs bashing us? They only know what the union thugs tell them. I believe if I was an RN I would be absolutely embarrassed to be represented by a union that says they're only interested in "patient care" and "patient safety." The sticking points on the contract HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PATIENT CARE - they have to do with compensation, MONEY, for the nurses. Sure - we'd all like to be paid a little more. No - we're not happy about having our retirement matching on hold for a year. BUT WE HAVE A JOB! WE HAVE A RETIREMENT! WE (ALL EMPLOYEES) ARE PAID WELL AND IN KEEPING WITH THE COMMUNITY STANDARD FOR THE JOBS WE HOLD! I think the bigger question that should be asked is what does the union do with the union dues they collect? Do they ... make a retirement plan for the nurses?(NO). Do they .. have an educational fund for nurses?(NO) Do they ... offer to supplement the nurses income since they feel they are so inadequately compensated?(NO). Maybe, just maybe, they use the dues to pay their own union people AND to "buy" politicians. They can then get legislation passed that allows for the creation of MORE UNIONS! Does this make sense to ANYBODY?

I thought nurses were professionals. As professionals, I surely would think that they could speak for themselves and work with their managers directly. I am embarrassed for those who feel like this is beyond their capabilities and therefore need a union thug to represent them.

Oh - and by the way - the CVMC RN who feels like they are abused because they sometimes get called when they are in lunch or on a break. Didn't anyone ever tell you that nursing is not a 9-5 job with a nice 1 hour lunch break at a fancy restaurant and water cooler breaks throughout the day. You are a HEALTH PROFESSIONAL in a HELPING PROFESSION. This sometimes means a shorter lunch or a call during a break. Buck up and be the professional that you signed on to be when you went to nursing school!
CA RN

Norco, CA

#13 Jun 3, 2010
QVC Employee wrote:
Hmmmmmm ... I was at the hospital all day yesterday and certainly never saw 200 picketers. I counted maybe 30 - maybe 35. And strangely enough, most of them didn't even look like employees - they were strangers brought in by the union in a bus! What do THEY know about Citrus Valley Medical Center? What right do they have to carry around signs bashing us? They only know what the union thugs tell them. I believe if I was an RN I would be absolutely embarrassed to be represented by a union that says they're only interested in "patient care" and "patient safety." The sticking points on the contract HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PATIENT CARE - they have to do with compensation, MONEY, for the nurses. Sure - we'd all like to be paid a little more. No - we're not happy about having our retirement matching on hold for a year. BUT WE HAVE A JOB! WE HAVE A RETIREMENT! WE (ALL EMPLOYEES) ARE PAID WELL AND IN KEEPING WITH THE COMMUNITY STANDARD FOR THE JOBS WE HOLD! I think the bigger question that should be asked is what does the union do with the union dues they collect? Do they ... make a retirement plan for the nurses?(NO). Do they .. have an educational fund for nurses?(NO) Do they ... offer to supplement the nurses income since they feel they are so inadequately compensated?(NO). Maybe, just maybe, they use the dues to pay their own union people AND to "buy" politicians. They can then get legislation passed that allows for the creation of MORE UNIONS! Does this make sense to ANYBODY?
I thought nurses were professionals. As professionals, I surely would think that they could speak for themselves and work with their managers directly. I am embarrassed for those who feel like this is beyond their capabilities and therefore need a union thug to represent them.
Oh - and by the way - the CVMC RN who feels like they are abused because they sometimes get called when they are in lunch or on a break. Didn't anyone ever tell you that nursing is not a 9-5 job with a nice 1 hour lunch break at a fancy restaurant and water cooler breaks throughout the day. You are a HEALTH PROFESSIONAL in a HELPING PROFESSION. This sometimes means a shorter lunch or a call during a break. Buck up and be the professional that you signed on to be when you went to nursing school!
Great Quote! Perfectly stated! Alot of people agree!
CLARA

Norco, CA

#14 Jun 3, 2010
THE STRIKING STAFF DO NOT CARE OR UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE HOSPITAL MAKING A PROFIT TO STAY IN BUSINESS AND COVER THE NECESSARY EXPENSES. THE YEARLY BUDGET HAS TO BE MET, CAPITAL EXPENDITURE MONEY MUST BE IN PLACE TO COVER NEW EQUIPMENT FOR PATIENT CARE. NON PRODUCTIVE HOURS SUCH AS PTO, SICK TIME, BEREAVEMENT LEAVE HAVE TO BE FACTORED IN AS WELL. ELECTRIC BILLS AND OTHER THINGS NEEDED TO RUN AN ORGANIZATION HAS TO BE PAID. EMPLOYEES ARE PAID A FAIR WAGE AT THIS FACILITY AND THE MANAGEMENT TEAM IS SUPPORTIVE OF QUALITY PATIENT CARE. THE NURSES SHOULD BE GLAD THEY HAVE A JOB. THERE ARE MANY NURSES AND OTHER PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA WITHOUT A JOB AND ARE HOMELESS. IF NURSES ARE IN NURSING ONLY FOR THE MONEY, THEY ARE IN IT FOR THE WRONG REASONS. IF THE HOSPITAL DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE TO MEET THE OPERATING EXPENSES AND TO COVER THE COST OF SALARIES, BILL WRITEOFFS AND SUCH, IT WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS. THE MANAGEMENT TEAM MUST MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN MAKING DECISIONS SO THAT THE NURSES WHO ARE DOING THE COMPLAIN WILL HAVE A JOB TO COME TO. IT IS MY OPINION THAT WE HAVE BEEN TREATED VERY WELL HERE AS EMPLOYEES AND I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD SAY "NO" TO THE UNION AND COME TO WORK AND GIVE OUR PATIENT'S THE ATTENTION THAT THEY DESERVE.
CLARA

Norco, CA

#15 Jun 3, 2010
QVC RN wrote:
I'm an RN at Queen of the Valley, and I do not support the strike. Some of us actually do care about the patients and are grateful to have a job. Citrus Valley is a great place to work. That's why so many nurse's have been there for 25+ yrs. The package they offer is very fair in these economic times. This is about the money, and "union greed" not corporate greed...it's embarrassing.
I Agree 100%. I know the nurses who are striking and I know what they like to do......ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Citrus Valley is a wonderful place to work. Go back to your own countries if you do not like Nursing in America.
Fellow reader

West Covina, CA

#16 Jun 3, 2010
CLARA wrote:
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I Agree 100%. I know the nurses who are striking and I know what they like to do......ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Citrus Valley is a wonderful place to work. Go back to your own countries if you do not like Nursing in America.
Clara - not sure if you realize it, but your remark is extremely racist. Who said anything about the nurses being from other countries?
Clara

Norco, CA

#17 Jun 3, 2010
no racist pun intended. Just stating that we are a melting pot here in California. I think that diversity is great. It helps us in many different ways and makes us stronger. We do have alot of nurses here on work visas....maybe I should have said "work elsewhere." Certainly did not mean anything racist because I myself am here on a work visa and that is what was meant by going back to your other countries.
chewy gomez

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#18 Jun 3, 2010
CA RN wrote:
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You go girl you said it, they are full of crap, it's all lies be happy you have a job and didn't get a pay cut like alot of people out there!
if the fillipino nurses really cared about there patients they would only work one job instead of two. and leave their second job for new grads.
Givmeabreak2

Norco, CA

#19 Jun 3, 2010
O please! A strike! Be thankful you have jobs. And if you are so abused then find another job somewhere else! Nurses are supposed to be passionate about their jobs and patients not money hungry in this economy. We have all had to sacrifice-and you don't think you have to? Is that it? Your patient ratio sounds good to me. I guess you are looking for more break time and chat time with your co-workers with less patients than you have now. If you cared about your patients and your job you wouldn't be out picketing RIGHT! Times are hard and what makes you guys think you should get anymore perks than the rest of us.
Proud RN

Norco, CA

#20 Jun 3, 2010
Corporate greed? I think all the nurses in the union should ask to see the budget of the union. Where does the money go? Where are their dues going? I will tell you where: trying to create more unions and to the shady politicians!
Meadowlark

Covina, CA

#21 Jun 3, 2010
CA RN wrote:
This is embarassing! They are lying if they say it is about safe patient ratios and lift teams, it is about money! The Union needs the money and dues of thousands of nurses to be able to pay politicians to do their bidding. Have any of these people read the news? Thousands of people are without jobs and healthcare reform is only going to take money away from hospitals. If they really care about their patients they wouldn't strike, they would actually take care of them! Go work somewhere else if you hate it so much!
These people are out of their minds. Unions have always taken the greater share of the dollars for themselves and political agendas. They need to go to the unemployment office and observe the lines of professionals looking for any job available. Consider the consequences Nurses - You will never regain the monies lost if you go out on strike and the hospital will continue to function. They are not-for-profit which means that the revenues are put back into the hospital for salaries, equipment and supplies. Grow up and smell the roses.
CA RN

Norco, CA

#22 Jun 3, 2010
cvmc RN wrote:
"Full of crap" by the end of the shift you probably are "full of crap", wouldn't you like to have a true break and lunch without being called, how many times have you been in the bathroom and your phone starts ringing. That is not a true break or lunch. It is illegal and when you are at lunch and your co-worker is covering you, you are out of ratio. It is about maintaining patient safety, maintaining safe floating clusters, dedicated lift teams and preserving our profession!!!
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If your on a break turn your phone off and then you wouldn't have to answer it in the bathroom, shouldn't the nurse that's covering you be caring the phone and answering it? that's what teamwork is for, guess you guys don't have any teamwork going on on your floor.

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