2ND THAT also saidEven though we might define what they are doing as wrong. Most of us won't speak at them with condemnation. I think this is difficult because of the devotion they gave us. When you are a member, people will make great sacrifices for you. Sacrifices that you might always appreciate even if you condemn what they are doing. It is difficult to demonize something that you both love and hate at the same time. Also, many of us have an attachment to those that are still involved and wish them no ill.
"I do have friends still involved who I HOPE (and believe), do things far differently. But as all the original leadership (those which are still living anyway) are still in charge, I fear any hope for real change may still be far off, if it is ever to happen at all."
I have a dear, dear friend who was subjected to direct horrific abuse by one of the original leadership families who are still alive. This family is revered at Kare.
I know they have committed absolute evil and it makes me sick to my stomach.
This friend has considered telling the story (in a far different forum than this. I don't think this friend knows of this thread), but is deeply torn.
Because I know what I know, I am deeply torn and angry too.
As somebody here way back in the early pages put it, organizations like Kare are ripe for abuse. The biggest concern is the organization, not the individual who has been harmed.