Job and Family Services Aiding Drug Addicts

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upset

Logan, OH

#1 Apr 26, 2013
I feel in my opinion that the Job and Family Services in Pickaway County is aiding drug addicts receiving a welfare check and ssi check and food stamps and a medical card. They need to stop giving a monthly check and food stamps and medical card to people living with a boyfriend or girlfriend. I think this is so unfair. Especially if they don't have children. A lot of people get ssi because they are depressed , well a lot of people who have real jobs get depressed too but they still work and they don't have medical insurance and get ssi and food stamps and a medical card. All drug addicts should be tested for drugs and if they are doing drugs they should not be allowed to get any government assistance. We have more than enough programs to help addicts in this country so drug addicts should get help but most don't want to. They feel if they can get a check and food stamps and a medical card then why work. I wonder how many addicts receiving public assistance really goes out to Jobs One Stop office and spend their whole day looking for jobs.Probably very few do.
James Bond

Columbus, OH

#2 Apr 26, 2013
Just hit the streets with that sweet ass. I do hand jobs not hand outs.
Reba

Logan, OH

#3 Apr 26, 2013
upset wrote:
I feel in my opinion that the Job and Family Services in Pickaway County is aiding drug addicts receiving a welfare check and ssi check and food stamps and a medical card. They need to stop giving a monthly check and food stamps and medical card to people living with a boyfriend or girlfriend. I think this is so unfair. Especially if they don't have children. A lot of people get ssi because they are depressed , well a lot of people who have real jobs get depressed too but they still work and they don't have medical insurance and get ssi and food stamps and a medical card. All drug addicts should be tested for drugs and if they are doing drugs they should not be allowed to get any government assistance. We have more than enough programs to help addicts in this country so drug addicts should get help but most don't want to. They feel if they can get a check and food stamps and a medical card then why work. I wonder how many addicts receiving public assistance really goes out to Jobs One Stop office and spend their whole day looking for jobs.Probably very few do.
I see a lot of these so called disabled young people lifting a lot of 24 packs on the first of each month.
hungry

Findlay, OH

#4 Apr 26, 2013
I get all above mentioned services from PCDJFS because I cannot get a job. No one will hire me because I have a record. So what if its because I am a sex offender. I messed with the kids a few years ago. Its over with. Since jobs wont hire me I gotta get on these programs. The upside is I get to play video games all day instead of working.
sam

Logan, OH

#5 Apr 26, 2013
upset wrote:
I feel in my opinion that the Job and Family Services in Pickaway County is aiding drug addicts receiving a welfare check and ssi check and food stamps and a medical card. They need to stop giving a monthly check and food stamps and medical card to people living with a boyfriend or girlfriend. I think this is so unfair. Especially if they don't have children. A lot of people get ssi because they are depressed , well a lot of people who have real jobs get depressed too but they still work and they don't have medical insurance and get ssi and food stamps and a medical card. All drug addicts should be tested for drugs and if they are doing drugs they should not be allowed to get any government assistance. We have more than enough programs to help addicts in this country so drug addicts should get help but most don't want to. They feel if they can get a check and food stamps and a medical card then why work. I wonder how many addicts receiving public assistance really goes out to Jobs One Stop office and spend their whole day looking for jobs.Probably very few do.
I wonder if some of the government employees have relatives like nieces and nephews who get SSI and live with their parents and they are well over the age of 18 years old. I know some people who get SSI and they live with their parents and they are 30 years old and have a big screen TV a nice car and they Smoke weed all month long. They seem perfectly healthy and they don't have a mentle issue as far as I can tell.
Lol

Circleville, OH

#6 Apr 26, 2013
These post confuse me. Having a nice tv and car at 30 is not an achievement if you're living at home with your parents. These people are not living it up. So turn them in if they are breaking laws, but besides that who cares. Hardy har har.
jon

Logan, OH

#7 Apr 26, 2013
Lol wrote:
These post confuse me. Having a nice tv and car at 30 is not an achievement if you're living at home with your parents. These people are not living it up. So turn them in if they are breaking laws, but besides that who cares. Hardy har har.
Well I think what they mean is you shouldn't be getting SSI and food stamps and a medical card if you have a newer car , big screen TV and you are living with your parents who are working and have a job. There are People who have a job that don't have money for a big screen TV and newer car and they have to pay cash for medical services. They need to pass a law like other states and make lazy drug addicts and pretends to be sick people take a drug test and if they fail the test make them get a job and pay back the tax payers. And if you are a case worker for the welfare department in your county you should not be allowed to do relatives who get public assistance paper work or see their files. They should have very honest people checking cases and the paper work and talking to these people in case the case workers are not being honest.
jon

Logan, OH

#8 Apr 26, 2013
sam wrote:
<quoted text> I wonder if some of the government employees have relatives like nieces and nephews who get SSI and live with their parents and they are well over the age of 18 years old. I know some people who get SSI and they live with their parents and they are 30 years old and have a big screen TV a nice car and they Smoke weed all month long. They seem perfectly healthy and they don't have a mental issue as far as I can tell.
And these healthy people are getting welfare and SSI, food stamps and a medical card and they shouldn't be.
Natasha

Waverly, OH

#9 Apr 27, 2013
I agree with everything you said. Makes me sick that welfare does in and buys birthday cakes and pop and steak and all the other good food bc they get $600 a month food stamps and they can go to the dr for a sniffle and be covered. This is why people are fat and gross and careless. I am not against people gettin assistance because there are people who need it but the fact is it is taken advantage of by fat lazy drug addicts who do not give a damn about their kids or Anyone else. Drug testing needs to be put in to affect because the people working to pay for it drug test.
Howdy

Freedom, PA

#10 Apr 27, 2013
hungry wrote:
I get all above mentioned services from PCDJFS because I cannot get a job. No one will hire me because I have a record. So what if its because I am a sex offender. I messed with the kids a few years ago. Its over with. Since jobs wont hire me I gotta get on these programs. The upside is I get to play video games all day instead of working.
So what if Its because ur a sex offender dude really u dont deserve 2 fucking livelet alone get a goddam job u don't deserve anything ur sick an twisted dude u make it sound like everyone should feel sorry 4 u ur a sick pc of shit that doesn't belong n society someone needs 2 take u out an f u up the ass an leave u 4 dead pc of trash u deserve 2 die!!!
Heyy

Circleville, OH

#11 Apr 27, 2013
They just passed a bill that people have to work their food stamps off , if they don't have a job by September,they have to work them off . There are stipulations though.If you have a kid under the age of 6, single parent,or on social security or about to have a baby.
Killa Bee

Findlay, OH

#12 Apr 27, 2013
Soo...let's just make up some numbers here shall we?

We'll get some info from here: http://www.city-data.com/county/Pickaway_Coun...

In 2012, Pickaway County had around 7.5% unemployment. That is assistance, and I am sure that we would all agree that most people on welfare are ot filing unemployment. I am going to guess that 20% of the county is on assistance in some form, not including child support or Elderly Social Security. County population is 55,810. That is a little over 11,000 people (including kids and elderly). If we drug test everyone on government assistance in Pickaway County, and say 10% are positive. Okay, chances are that is much higher, but we'll go with that. That is 1100 people getting kicked off assistance, no more welfare, food stamps, social security, medicare, nothing! 1100 people out of 55000.

Now, who is going to feed those kids now? Who is going to get them an education, get them clothes and a bed and food? Where will that money come from? Probably the taxpayers. Okay, what about the parents? I think the last I checked there were maybe a handful of actual homeless people in this County. Imagine 1100 instantly homeless people in the county. So now another agency has to care for them, huh? You cannot let people die, you cannot let kids starve to death.

The purpose of the government assistance is to help these people up, it is not always used that way, but I grew up and out of welfare. Even Mitt Romney's family grew up and out of welfare. Government assistance may not always be the best course for some addicts, but by removing it, you overburden other agencies that would then require the money. Our politicians and leaders (mostly republicans) want to slash the budget so deep that no-one will be on assistance, no government programs will be available to help, and yet the people will still be required to follow rules and laws that they cannot follow without the assistance. Case in point - They want to create a law outlawing abortion so mothers are required to give birth, but want to cut funding to help expectant or new mothers that cannot afford milk, formula or diapers. No matter what side you are on over abortion, this is outrageous to believe that it makes any sense.

Well, time to get off my soap box, anyone else?
circleville

Circleville, OH

#13 Apr 28, 2013
life isn't fair
I is me

Circleville, OH

#14 Apr 28, 2013
Honestly I believe they should have a system in place that if you collect all these benefits you should have to do some kind of community service to earn it. We have areas where there are dirty city streets and parks, that highways could use a little attention. It wouldn't kill them to have to meet X amount of hours worked to earn your benefits.

I understand there are people who do need the support and try, I genuinely do. But I'm an active part of the community in a way when I see these people come into my place of employ and talk down to me when it's my tax dollars allowing them to buy steak while I can afford only bologna.

I'm not saying they should lose everything but we need a happy medium. If I work to pay for my food, I think they could give the taxpayers a little something back and work themselves by helping clean up this town. And I'm not even asking for them to do a full work weeks worth of work. Just something to show some appreciation for what the working man does for them.
Heyy

Circleville, OH

#15 Apr 28, 2013
I is me wrote:
Honestly I believe they should have a system in place that if you collect all these benefits you should have to do some kind of community service to earn it. We have areas where there are dirty city streets and parks, that highways could use a little attention. It wouldn't kill them to have to meet X amount of hours worked to earn your benefits.
I understand there are people who do need the support and try, I genuinely do. But I'm an active part of the community in a way when I see these people come into my place of employ and talk down to me when it's my tax dollars allowing them to buy steak while I can afford only bologna.
I'm not saying they should lose everything but we need a happy medium. If I work to pay for my food, I think they could give the taxpayers a little something back and work themselves by helping clean up this town. And I'm not even asking for them to do a full work weeks worth of work. Just something to show some appreciation for what the working man does for them.
They have to start helping by September,if they don't obtain employment by September.They just passed a bill on it and abortion is wrong .Dont lay on your back if you can't Use protection ,PERIOD!!
Killa Bee

Findlay, OH

#16 Apr 28, 2013
i agree wholeheartedly I is me.
LivEvil

Chillicothe, OH

#17 Apr 28, 2013
Killa Bee wrote:
Soo...let's just make up some numbers here shall we?
We'll get some info from here: http://www.city-data.com/county/Pickaway_Coun...
In 2012, Pickaway County had around 7.5% unemployment. That is assistance, and I am sure that we would all agree that most people on welfare are ot filing unemployment. I am going to guess that 20% of the county is on assistance in some form, not including child support or Elderly Social Security. County population is 55,810. That is a little over 11,000 people (including kids and elderly). If we drug test everyone on government assistance in Pickaway County, and say 10% are positive. Okay, chances are that is much higher, but we'll go with that. That is 1100 people getting kicked off assistance, no more welfare, food stamps, social security, medicare, nothing! 1100 people out of 55000.
Now, who is going to feed those kids now? Who is going to get them an education, get them clothes and a bed and food? Where will that money come from? Probably the taxpayers. Okay, what about the parents? I think the last I checked there were maybe a handful of actual homeless people in this County. Imagine 1100 instantly homeless people in the county. So now another agency has to care for them, huh? You cannot let people die, you cannot let kids starve to death.
The purpose of the government assistance is to help these people up, it is not always used that way, but I grew up and out of welfare. Even Mitt Romney's family grew up and out of welfare. Government assistance may not always be the best course for some addicts, but by removing it, you overburden other agencies that would then require the money. Our politicians and leaders (mostly republicans) want to slash the budget so deep that no-one will be on assistance, no government programs will be available to help, and yet the people will still be required to follow rules and laws that they cannot follow without the assistance. Case in point - They want to create a law outlawing abortion so mothers are required to give birth, but want to cut funding to help expectant or new mothers that cannot afford milk, formula or diapers. No matter what side you are on over abortion, this is outrageous to believe that it makes any sense.

Well, time to get off my soap box, anyone else?
I see exactly where you are coming from, but it doesn't change the fact that it is frustrating to those who actually need the help and can't recieve it. As far as saying that the children of the people who would test positive would starve is kind of silly. I'm pretty sure if someone seeking government assistance would test positve for drugs then CPS would be notified and would step in. If someone tests positive for drugs they need their children taken from them and placed in protective care if and until the parent/s are in a stable home, working, and drug free.

Now here's something else that bothers me, I work with a girl, she has two children both by different fathers. She is not with either of the fathers and recieves about $300 a mnth for each kid ($600 in total a month), she is also recieves about if i had to guess $400 a month in food stamps, medical card for her and her children she lives in a home her mother owns, and lives with her boyfriend who is a welder. She has a brand new 2013 ford focus, an iphone 5, and goes out every weekend and parties. Now if that isn't abuse of government assistances I don't knkw what is. Job and family needs to pay closer attention to people like this.
Killa Bee

Findlay, OH

#18 Apr 28, 2013
LivEvil wrote:
<quoted text>
I see exactly where you are coming from, but it doesn't change the fact that it is frustrating to those who actually need the help and can't recieve it. As far as saying that the children of the people who would test positive would starve is kind of silly. I'm pretty sure if someone seeking government assistance would test positve for drugs then CPS would be notified and would step in. If someone tests positive for drugs they need their children taken from them and placed in protective care if and until the parent/s are in a stable home, working, and drug free.
Now here's something else that bothers me, I work with a girl, she has two children both by different fathers. She is not with either of the fathers and recieves about $300 a mnth for each kid ($600 in total a month), she is also recieves about if i had to guess $400 a month in food stamps, medical card for her and her children she lives in a home her mother owns, and lives with her boyfriend who is a welder. She has a brand new 2013 ford focus, an iphone 5, and goes out every weekend and parties. Now if that isn't abuse of government assistances I don't knkw what is. Job and family needs to pay closer attention to people like this.
This is something that may need reported for them to investigate it. Someone who is "gaming" the system in this manner is not going to test positive on a drug test, they are only going to get caught if someone calls Job and Family Services and says, "I have a concern that this person may be abusing the system. Here is what I see, can you look into it?" Then, leave it to them to look into.

As for the kids starving, this is the catch 22 I was trying to refer to. Would you rather overburden our children services system, that is already bursting at the seams and constantly being underfunded, understaffed, and overly criticized by removing assistance from 1100 people, most of which are children or would you rather allow the mothers and fathers continue to raise them, even if it is not the way we would do it and amid all the bad and wrong choices that are made?

I hate to think kids will be stuck in a house with drugs and unfit parents, but so long as there is no abuse, can we as a society and a budget based government afford to take them away from families and pay 100% of their needs versus 10-20%?

And if we do take the kids, and the assistance, what do you think that will do to the crime rate and the jails and prisons? Who pays those bills? Pretty sure it's the same people paying to keep them out of prison right now...every action has a reaction...
James Dong

Mansfield, OH

#19 Apr 28, 2013
Yep CPS ICE or many other government agencies, DONT CARE!!!! ICE isnt allowed to.arrest illegal immigrants unless they get arrested by another agency. Still don't deport unless they have 3 felonies. Just watched it on Hardball. So if they make it across the border they are good for a food and medical card. Drown.them fn wetbacks. ICE agents are in fear of losing their jobs if they actually do their job. Why do we have them? Why are we paying them? Does this explain why there is probably 50 million tons of heroin in the USA ready for distribution to our children.????? I believe as do most.Americans do, well most real true red necked Americans, that a civil ear is in order and we should be allowed to protect our own borders. Mexican hunting season?
James Dong

Mansfield, OH

#20 Apr 28, 2013
Obamacare is retarded mainly because a retarded un- American drew up the plan. I myself, Dong, have more knowledge of health care than the president.and I don't know shit. Let the immigrants continue to come over and we are going to be history. While our fearless leader lets it continue to happen. What's the deal with ICE? Their hands are tied. They are begging for help and for the go ahead but it is falling on our great presidents deaf ears. How many more days do we have to wait for a leader?

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