should marijuana be legalized?

[conservative lady]

HappyDays wrote:

Marijuana was found in Trevon Martin's system too.

Starting to see a pattern, don't you?

Other than for legit medical reasons, there is NO good reason to legalize marijuana!

Treyvon also had Skittles in his pocket. John Wayne Gacy loved Skittles. See a pattern?

[Happy Days]

conservative lady wrote:

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Treyvon also had Skittles in his pocket. John Wayne Gacy loved Skittles. See a pattern?

Yes, because Zimmerman said Trayvon is the one that jumped him.
Keep in mind, Trayvon was 17 years old and over 6 feet tall (taller than Zimmerman). Old enough to be tried as an adult.

Parents have enough trouble with alcohol and Rx drugs without adding marijuana to the mix.

The only people that would be fine with legalizing marijuana would be young people without kids (or don't care about kids) looking for another way to have a good time.

Would you be OK will letting your EMPLOYER know that you use Marijuana or would you wait until you test positive?

[TRueLee02]

Happy Days wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, because Zimmerman said Trayvon is the one that jumped him.
Keep in mind, Trayvon was 17 years old and over 6 feet tall (taller than Zimmerman). Old enough to be tried as an adult.

Parents have enough trouble with alcohol and Rx drugs without adding marijuana to the mix.

The only people that would be fine with legalizing marijuana would be young people without kids (or don't care about kids) looking for another way to have a good time.

Would you be OK will letting your EMPLOYER know that you use Marijuana or would you wait until you test positive?

Well you're wrong about one thing. I'm not opposed to legalizing marijuana and I have kids that I care about very much. Actually I talk to them all the time about the negative effects of tobacco, alcohol, and drugs. But I do believe that if people have the right to drink alcohol, they should have the right to smoke marijuana. Of course, like alcohol, marijuana is something that should only be enjoyed by responsible adults. And you're right, parents have plenty to worry about, that's our job. And if we compare the negative effects of alcohol against those of marijuana, you should be much more worried about your children drinking than you should worry about them smoking.

[HappyDays]

@ TrueLee02

I respect the fact that you disagree with my take on it.

It is NOT a matter of which is worse, both are bad. Your children may sit and listen to you, but will also have peer pressure. If marijuana is legal, it will, like cigarettes were, be marketed to the young - cigarette cos. have no shame.

Again, marijuana is NOT allowed in the workplace and should NOT be allowed in schools. It stays in your system for several days. If you test positive at work, you run the risk of losing your job and healthcare. NOT WORTH THE HIGH.

As a nation, we don't need one more thing to make us HIGH; we have enough to deal with now (legal and illegal).

[TRueLee02]

HappyDays wrote:

@ TrueLee02

I respect the fact that you disagree with my take on it.

It is NOT a matter of which is worse, both are bad. Your children may sit and listen to you, but will also have peer pressure. If marijuana is legal, it will, like cigarettes were, be marketed to the young - cigarette cos. have no shame.

Again, marijuana is NOT allowed in the workplace and should NOT be allowed in schools. It stays in your system for several days. If you test positive at work, you run the risk of losing your job and healthcare. NOT WORTH THE HIGH.

As a nation, we don't need one more thing to make us HIGH; we have enough to deal with now (legal and illegal).

I agree that both alcohol and marijuana both have negative affects, that's why I said in one of my previous posts, that if we are staying fair, we either need to make alcohol illegal or marijuana legal. And as I've said before, I don't believe that marijuana would be tested for work of it were legal. Alcohol is legal/you cannot use at the workplace/you can use at home without losing your job. If marijuana were legal/you cannot use at the workplace/you can use at home without losing your job.

And children are actually greater affected by their parents then by their peers. Children whose parents don't take the time to talk to them about the world and the things around them, usually fall victim to peer pressure. Marijuana and alcohol are not the problem. Irresponsible people are. Instead of standing against something that adults should have the right to do, we should be standing for harsher punishments for those who break the law and are irresponsible.

[HappyDays]

Today, if alcohol or illegal drugs are found in your system at the time of a drug test, depending on the Employee rule book, you CAN lose your job.

Most kids today will follow the lead of their peers (or be a leader); they just will NOT tell you. You will find out when something goes wrong.

There are some kids that follow the rules, but not that many. Most want to be accepted by the "cool kids". Just a fact of life.

[TRueLee02]

HappyDays wrote:

Today, if alcohol or illegal drugs are found in your system at the time of a drug test, depending on the Employee rule book, you CAN lose your job.

Most kids today will follow the lead of their peers (or be a leader); they just will NOT tell you. You will find out when something goes wrong.

There are some kids that follow the rules, but not that many. Most want to be accepted by the "cool kids". Just a fact of life.

Key word TODAY. TODAY marijuana is illegal so TODAY if it is found in your system you will be fired because companies don't want criminals working for their business. If marijuana is legalized, businesses will no longer need to test for marijuana.

Thinking that kids will do what their peers do no matter what makes me think you're either a man, a person with no kids, or a person who isn't confident in their parenting. During research I've read many papers compiled by professions who agree that children will lead more by their parents' example than their peers. Having a career in the public school system, I daily see both children who have very loving, active, hands on parents and those whose parents are either negligent or passive. The latter are the ones who always want to impress and will do what others want in order to get attention. The former doesn't need the attention because they get it at home. Not all children drink and do drugs, just a vast many because of the ignorance of parents.

[HappyDays]

Please call an employer monday and find out what their policy is about employee testing positive for drugs. You obviously don't have a job or a clue about this. In the oilfield, they are tested before they go offshore. Cannot go if they test positive. Reason, they are not in possession of their full faculties and may make mistakes that put themselves and/or others in peril.

Second, a few kids who live a very structure life don't disobey parents.

Most kids, if their friends drink, do drugs, stay out late or go clubing will do so to be part of the "cool kids group". FACT OF LIFE. LOOK around. Yes, the parents need to pay more attention and give them less material things. Have them do chores around home for a modest allowance (teach them responsibility). Eat more meals with them as a family. Do more family oriented things. Do they? no.

I am not talking about pre-school thru sixth grade (although some start early), mostly middle and high school kids.

[TRueLee02]

HappyDays wrote:

Please call an employer monday and find out what their policy is about employee testing positive for drugs. You obviously don't have a job or a clue about this. In the oilfield, they are tested before they go offshore. Cannot go if they test positive. Reason, they are not in possession of their full faculties and may make mistakes that put themselves and/or others in peril.

Second, a few kids who live a very structure life don't disobey parents.

Most kids, if their friends drink, do drugs, stay out late or go clubing will do so to be part of the "cool kids group". FACT OF LIFE. LOOK around. Yes, the parents need to pay more attention and give them less material things. Have them do chores around home for a modest allowance (teach them responsibility). Eat more meals with them as a family. Do more family oriented things. Do they? no.

I am not talking about pre-school thru sixth grade (although some start early), mostly middle and high school kids.

Again,(like a broken record) no one is saying you could go to work high! Can you go to work drunk? No! Can you drink at home? Yes! If marijuana were legal, employers would not allow their employees to go to work high. That's ridiculous. I do have a job. And I would never go to work under the influence of alcohol or anything else.

Saying that kids with good parents live a "very structured life" sounds like it comes from someone who is one of the negligent parents, so there's no point in arguing that point with you. We will just have to agree that your kids do drugs behind your back and mine do not. I know what age group you're talking about. And if you try to think back to the days when you were in high school, then you'll realize that not all teenagers drink or do drugs.

And you just said that those parents need to pay more attention, but they won't. You're kinda proving my point, here. What I said was, the problem isn't marijuana, the problem is irresponsible parenting. The good shouldn't have to suffer for the bad.
If you believe that marijuana should be illegal because parents are lazy, then you should also believe that alcohol should be illegal for the same reason. More teens drink than do drugs. More teens die in alcohol related car crashes than marijuana related.

[Happy Days]

I agree to disagree.

Employers have enough to contend with when it come to alcohol and illegal drugs; don't need to legalize marijunan for recreational use.

Most situations, kids and parents are different.
Most homes both parents work. Kids are left on their own. No family nights. Parents feeling guilty, give them material things.

In a perfect world, all would be living like the characters in Leave It To Beaver. Those people did not live their lives like their characters either.

As a society, we must regulate unneccessary evils to keep civiilization going!

[TRueLee02]

Happy Days wrote:

I agree to disagree.

Employers have enough to contend with when it come to alcohol and illegal drugs; don't need to legalize marijunan for recreational use.

Most situations, kids and parents are different.
Most homes both parents work. Kids are left on their own. No family nights. Parents feeling guilty, give them material things.

In a perfect world, all would be living like the characters in Leave It To Beaver. Those people did not live their lives like their characters either.

As a society, we must regulate unneccessary evils to keep civiilization going!

Or maybe as a society we should fight to better educate parents or prevent some people from having children, rather then spending our energy fighting against things that grown responsible adults want to do with their free time.
And people who are against marijuana should also be against alcohol for the very same reasons.

[grits n gravy]

Happy Days wrote:

I agree to disagree.

Employers have enough to contend with when it come to alcohol and illegal drugs; don't need to legalize marijunan for recreational use.

Most situations, kids and parents are different.
Most homes both parents work. Kids are left on their own. No family nights. Parents feeling guilty, give them material things.

In a perfect world, all would be living like the characters in Leave It To Beaver. Those people did not live their lives like their characters either.

As a society, we must regulate unneccessary evils to keep civiilization going!

Folks like you are the ones that screw the world up for everyone else. You feel as though everyone should live by your definition of how the world should be. Believe it or not, the world is made up of people that are not white and Christian and the country is founded on the doctrine of the pursuit of happiness. As long as what I do does not harm you then leave me alone. Unfortunately, folks like you don't like that. It's no better then a Muslim man not letting a woman get an education because he doesn't think it's right or the soviets not letting children listen to rock and roll music because it is going to harm them. Get over yourself.

[Happy Days]

If you want to smoke pot, smoke. Why do you need it be legalized?

You don't know a thing about me.

You seem to have all the wrong answers. Smoking majuana is a NON issue with me. Smoke it and take on the responsibility. Oh, that's what you don't want to do! No responsibility, now I get it.

By the way, religion has nothing to do with it. You can smoke it to death and I will not care (you can go out happy). I care about mariguana smokers around kids, driving on the roads and having to work with these people; you know, putting it in my space. I am SO normal!

[TRueLee02]

Happy Days wrote:

If you want to smoke pot, smoke. Why do you need it be legalized?

You don't know a thing about me.

You seem to have all the wrong answers. Smoking majuana is a NON issue with me. Smoke it and take on the responsibility. Oh, that's what you don't want to do! No responsibility, now I get it.

By the way, religion has nothing to do with it. You can smoke it to death and I will not care (you can go out happy). I care about mariguana smokers around kids, driving on the roads and having to work with these people; you know, putting it in my space. I am SO normal!

I think most responsible adults don't want to smoke because it illegal. Because most responsible adults don't want to get put in jail, or fined, or lose their jobs. If marijuana were legal, this wouldn't be an issue. And responsible adults could smoke, at home, when the kids are away, when they are off of work :)

[Happy Days]

So you are saying the majority who will buy this "legalized marijuana" will be "RESPONSIBLE" adults?

[grits n gravy]

Happy Days wrote:

So you are saying the majority who will buy this "legalized marijuana" will be "RESPONSIBLE" adults?

No, that's not what she's saying. She is saying that, if you use it responsibly, you should not have to live in fear of getting a possession charge and having your whole life turned on its side just because some other people have been known to be irresponsible while using it.
Now granted, there will be those that abuse it like crazy. That's the way it is. But do you cut all food stamps because some people abuse the system? Do you ban all pit bulls because a few people use them in an abusive manner? Do you ban all kitchen knives because one kid stabbed another kid? You don't punish the many for the sins of the few.

BTW, people are already up in your space high on weed all the time and you just don't know it. Some people are fully functional marijuana smokers and they exist in various walks of life.

[Happy Days]

If you are responsible you would see that parents, employers and drivers on the road don't need one more "LEGAL" thing to disrupt their lives. Keep in mind it does not leave your blood stream in a couple of days, which means there is more chance of it interacting with other chemicals entering your body - whether it be food, drink or other drugs.

Keep in mind, if it is illegal, then it will continue to be done in the closet (fewer people) and not on an wide open range (more people).

DON'T NEED TO LEGALIZE!

[grits n gravy]

Happy Days wrote:

If you are responsible you would see that parents, employers and drivers on the road don't need one more "LEGAL" thing to disrupt their lives. Keep in mind it does not leave your blood stream in a couple of days, which means there is more chance of it interacting with other chemicals entering your body - whether it be food, drink or other drugs.

Keep in mind, if it is illegal, then it will continue to be done in the closet (fewer people) and not on an wide open range (more people).

DON'T NEED TO LEGALIZE!

It leaves your 'blood stream?' what an idiot. My guess is that your ignorance is bliss and you don't want anything to interrupt that. Self centered ass

[Happy Days]

grits n gravy wrote:

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It leaves your 'blood stream?' what an idiot. My guess is that your ignorance is bliss and you don't want anything to interrupt that. Self centered ass

That's right, when you don't have facts to backup your opinion, start calling the other person names.

Who is the bully now?

[TRueLee02]

I'm just curious if anyone against legalizing marijuana in this thread is also for making alcohol illegal?