Gun battle possible in Monroe death

Full story: The Morning Call

At 7 o'clock on Tuesday morning, Lee VanLuvender said goodbye to his family, left his home in Pocono Township and went to the woods to hunt.
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la salle

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#180
Dec 7, 2007
 
Clive Shively wrote:
Just one more reason to note how stupid hunting is. People wake up at 3:30AM, put on those silly outfits as if they're going to a World War, pickup their male friends, and go into the woods with them. All with the hopes of killing what? A mass murderer? A terrorist? Nope. A freakin deer.
I swear, I can go hunting with a ball peen hammer, a loud stereo, and a bag of peanuts, and can kill just as many deer as the Great White Hunters that are out there.
In fact, I almost killed two deer last year as I was on 248. The sad part is I was going 55 mph, had my radio blasting, and my high beams on. That is how easy it is to kill a freakin' deer. I didn't need a big truck,$500 rifle,$300 outfit, and spend a weekend in the mountains to do it.
Different strokes for different folks. Why don't you try hunting, the real way and then come back on here and tell us all how easy it is?
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#181
Dec 7, 2007
 
Mary wrote:
Scary to think that some of you making these comments are deer hunters.....can see why this man may have gotten shot. Many many anger issues on this forum.....
I say let's teach the deer to shoot, give them rifles and make it fair and square....
Y'all would look cute in the hunting magazines with your tongues hanging out!!!!
Oh my God...how cold and cruel can you be? "can see why this man may have gotten shot"....shame on you!!!

May he rest in peace.
Robin Quivers

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#182
Dec 7, 2007
 
Dad70 wrote:
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I have agreed with every point that woman who hunts and I say bravo and amen!
I also hunt for the meat, which I also agree, is much better than than the meat that I pick up at the grocery store. No hormone growth, no steroids, just soley grown in the wild without the help of man for a profit.
The fact of the matter is as woman who hunts states, you will have those who hunt and are strongly for it, and those who don't who are strongly against it. This all is inmaterial for this article. This is not an article about animal rights, nor is it about hunting. It is about a fellow man who has lost is life by someone who obviously has no regard to another's life.
To the person who is trying to justify that taking an animals life and taking a humans life are one and the same, I say shame on you. I would hope that you are not that delusional.
Anyways, I am like most people who sends his prayers out to the mother and the rest of the family that has lost a son, a brother and a friend. God bless them all, especially this time of the year.
AMEN!!! Best post so far!
NEPA

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#183
Dec 7, 2007
 
i cant believe the animal lovers are still complaining.

for ppl that dont like cruelty towards animals, they are sure beating a dead horse on the topic.
Michael Walters

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#184
Dec 8, 2007
 
The "redneck" comments and other nonsense posted on this bulletin board is shameful. It is sad that a group of American adults can't see the tragedy in this case. As an American, a college graduate, a father, a son, and an avid outdoorsman with all of my teeth, this is a horrible tragedy. The rest of the idiotic talk on the site is also a horrible tragedy and once again shows a few of the reasons that our society is continually regressing towards further disarray. May God be with this poor man's family and his infant son during this horrible time. May God console the disillusioned individuals out there. And may the arm of justice be brought upon the individual who committed this crime.
John

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#185
Dec 10, 2007
 
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Really do they make a sound that indicates pain when they get hurt? Do they harm people? You have never seen a group including a male with a group? I guess not but how can anyone argue with someone who is obviously as well read and educated as you. You must be quit the "family" man with many great "characteristics". You can't even spell but I bet you build a hell of a tree stand.
Well thank you I do agree and so would my wife and child that I am a very good familly man. All the deer I've ever shot died on the spot. One shot usually through the heart but sometimes all I have is the head. I've never hunted from a tree stand I've always stalked when I hunted, learned deer sign their habits. I wouldn't call a deer defenseless if you get close enough the can kick you and hit you with their front hooves which sometimes can be pretty sharp plus bucks the male of the species have antlers which can do some damage. As far as damage millons of dollars of crops are destoryed ever year, car accidents and damage to personel property. I'm sorry if I misspelled a word, I have to do a lot of multi-tasking with my job answer phones, writing reports for government agencies doing enginering design work plus responding to you. Spring time males usually hang out alone does group together. Early fall males start coming back checking out the females. Late fall rut season males are chase each other and the does around and winter ever deer for themselves. Spend sometime in the woods you would be surprized what you could learn.
hntrfamily

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#186
Dec 10, 2007
 
Mark wrote:
I think all the hunters should just go in the woods and shoot eachother up.
It's one way to get rid of them all.
My thoughts are with all the deer they murdered. I guess now the deceased knows what it felt like to be shot by a hunter. Talk about Karma.
Wow - as I sit and read through these horrid things I would like to say the following. This hunter was a father, fiancee, son and brother and one amazing young man! He wasn't killed by a hunter - he was killed with a semi automatic hand gun with the one of the shots being to the head. Whatever beliefs you may have about hunting, I ask you to think about my 2 year old nephew who will not have memories of his father because someone took him away! You pride yourself on being better than hunters but you mock the death of this young man - shame on you!!

Please remember his family doesn't know what happend and we scour articles praying we will find new information. We read this blog hoping to hear stories of him or information that might lead to the apprehension of the monster(s) that did this!

Since: Mar 07

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#187
Dec 11, 2007
 
hntrfamily wrote:
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Wow - as I sit and read through these horrid things I would like to say the following. This hunter was a father, fiancee, son and brother and one amazing young man! He wasn't killed by a hunter - he was killed with a semi automatic hand gun with the one of the shots being to the head. Whatever beliefs you may have about hunting, I ask you to think about my 2 year old nephew who will not have memories of his father because someone took him away! You pride yourself on being better than hunters but you mock the death of this young man - shame on you!!
Please remember his family doesn't know what happend and we scour articles praying we will find new information. We read this blog hoping to hear stories of him or information that might lead to the apprehension of the monster(s) that did this!
My heart goes out to all family and friends of this hunter. NOBODY deserves this and the next one, God forbid, may be the loved one on any one of the commenters on this board, whether you like the sport or not...it can happen anywhwere, the mall, corner store, your place of worship....get it?
Leah McLaren

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#188
Dec 15, 2007
 
Mary wrote:
If they can do this to each other imagine what they do to the poor animals out there!!! Most of these hunters are drunks anyway!!!!! Should have to take breathalizers before entering the woods.
Mary,
Listen, my name is Leah and I am Lee Vanluvender's fiance and mother of his son. I do not appreciate you saying such nasty things about him and hunters in general. It was something that he loved. Whoever did this took him away from me and I will not allow you idiots to speak of something you know nothing about. If you do not have condolences to offer then don't say anything. You must have no heart to speak like this after a young man was violently murdered.
Leah McLaren

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#189
Dec 15, 2007
 
Mark wrote:
You're out in the woods hunting and you take your chances of being shot. It's your choice.
The deer have no choice, their only crime is that a minority of the population wants to murder them and eat their dead bodies.
Sicko.
I think you need re-think your definition of compassion. Turning the compassion tables on those of us who don't want to see deer slaughtered is a really poor way of defending your position. Try again.
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Mark,
I am going to try to be as nice as I can right now. You are an idiot who has no heart as you are saying such nasty things. Lee VanLuvender was my fiance and father of my 2 year old son. Do you have children? A father? What would you feel like it they were murdered and then an ignorant person mocked his death? I hope you can sleep really well after you read my reply. And may God help you because you will need it if you do not stop and think before you type.
hntrfamily

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#190
Dec 15, 2007
 
All - A benefit concert for Baby Sean is being planned! The Sherman Theater (in Stroudsburg, PA) will present:Cleopatra Recording Artists STREET SURVIVORS. A National Touring Lynyrd Skynyrd Tribute Show as seen on tour with Artimus Pyle, Leslie Hawkins, JoJo Billingsley!! The tentative date will be January 4, 2008. You can check out STREET SURVIVORS website at www.LISTREETSURVIVORS.COM . There will be more to follow as soon as we work out the details, but all proceed will go directly to Baby Sean.
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#191
Dec 16, 2007
 
I have read and heard a lot of ridiuculous and unfounded rumors regarding Lee Vanluvender's murder. I am asking that you please stop they are hindering the investigation and are hurting the people who loved him. If you have information that you feel should be investigated please contact the police. Thank you.
JHARTMAN

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#192
Dec 16, 2007
 
I am Lee's fiancee's aunt and her son's, grandaunt. I can not believe some of the vicious things that have been said regarding Lee's violent and senseless murder. There were over 400 family and friends who attended his funeral all devasted by the loss of this young man. I watched as one by one filed past his casket with the agony of his loss etched on their faces. I looked into his mother's anguished face and held onto my niece as she shook uncontrollably in pain. This was not a person who deserved to die this was a sweet young man who was loved deeply and who will be missed always. I beg you all to please stop...let his family grieve in peace.
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#193
Dec 17, 2007
 
Hi everybody...
I just wanted to urge everyone to take a look at the entry from a few days ago about the BENEFIT CONCERT BEING HELD FOR SEAN, THE SON OF THE RECENTLY SLAIN HUNTER, LEE VANLUVENDER. This will be a great way for all of you who have been so supportive and kind to offer your prayers and concern. The band that is playing has offered their time and the The Sherman Theater has been awesome to offer us a venue to hold the concert. The tentative date is January 4th.(call the Sherman theater, for ticket info)Please come out and check out The STREET SURVIVORS, they're an awesome Skynyrd tribute band who has toured nationally with Artimus Pyle, JoJo Billingsley, and Leslie Hawkins! We're really trying to do thing right, so if as many of you as possible can pass the word along, it would be much appreciated!! THANKS!
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#194
Dec 17, 2007
 
Leah McLaren wrote:
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Mark,
I am going to try to be as nice as I can right now. You are an idiot who has no heart as you are saying such nasty things. Lee VanLuvender was my fiance and father of my 2 year old son. Do you have children? A father? What would you feel like it they were murdered and then an ignorant person mocked his death? I hope you can sleep really well after you read my reply. And may God help you because you will need it if you do not stop and think before you type.
Leah,
I am so sorry for your loss. Please don't take the horrible things that other people have said on here seriously.
I hope they feel rotten for the trash that they've spewed on here, that has hurt you. Believe me, they will get theirs one day.

God bless you, your son and all your family at this tough time.
KMPIZANO

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#195
Dec 18, 2007
 
HAS EVERYONE SEEN THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A BENEFIT CONCERT IN THE NAME SEAN, LEE VANLUVENDER'S 2YEAR OLD?? I HOPE EVERYONE IS PLANNING TO GO. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!! MOST OF THE "PEOPLE" WHO HAVE WRITING ON THIS BLOG HAVE PROVEN JUST WHO THE "STUPID" HICKS ARE!! THEY HAVE BEEN CRUEL AND HORRIBLE. I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE SHOWN SUPPORT THROUGH THESE PAGES WILL COME OUT AND PROVE THAT SOME OF THE HUMAN POPULATION IS STILL GOOD AND CARING AND KIND!! JANUARY 4TH AT THE SHERMAN THEATER...CALL THE SHERMAN FOR TICKET INFO... PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD - HOPE TO MEET YOU THERE!!Full Message
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#196
Jul 4, 2008
 
well
considering some of you insane lee haters are probably still reading this forum in search of any bit of attention you can get here it is.

you dont matter.You dont count.
ive never listened to a judgemental , stereotypical , ignorant internet forum pussy before and i dont plan to start.
I dont care about you or your opinions.
i dont care that you dont like hunters.
I actually wish you the best
youll need it with the deep rooted issues and anger you are expressing with these posts.
so good luck in youre life.
have a good one.

my brother didnt drink or do drugs , he was the most amazing person ive ever met.ill stay in these woods and hunt all i want.i have a respect for the wilderness and animals you would never understand.

so go and do what you do.
lash out.
spam forums.
disrespect grieving families.
talk shit from behind a monitor.
pretend youre fighting for animals
when all youre really trying to do is get some anger out of youre system.maybe some attention.

read this and say im wrong
call me a redneck
id rather be that forever
than be anything like any of your for a second
my brothers above you all
and all you do
is make it show more
congrats.
i wish nothing but the best to you.

Amber Van Luvender

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