Hearing for children at polygamist retreat grinds to a halt

[Hannah Rebekah]

One person married to one person...like most of us.

[someone who cares]

Ava Mae Lewis wrote:

But the state, as laid out in the service plans, maintains that the couples and other FLDS parents "have chosen to be members of a community that appears to support systemic abuse of children." And CPS workers have the backing of Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who praised them last week for handling the complex case "professionally and compassionately."
The plans lay out a year-long process for being reunited with their children, identifying dozens of issues the parents must address. The plans warn that failure to cooperate could result in their children being placed in permanent state custody or put up for adoption
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_9295315

Of course the CPS maintains that position, whether they know it's true or not. Because if they don't, they will not be justified in recommending that the court maintain jurisdiction over the minors.
Even if they see proof otherwise, they will not point out the good, but only focus on the bad they may interpret or any lies that they are claiming as fact.

The Governor must maintain the position he is taking if he hopes to be reelected.But that may just backfire on him, the more truth that comes out.

And it's just as I said. The CPS has the children in the state's custody, so they have the leverage they need, the children being used as clubs that are wielded over the heads of the parents to make them jump through all the hoops they want them to.If they don't and more probably even if they
do, they will not have their children returned to them.

There will be a whole lot of happy adoptive families, making new homes for the parent's stolen children.

[standing bear]

Funny how it's ok for gays to get married in california, But a man can have only one wife in california!!!!!!!Isn't it?

[someone who cares]

standing bear wrote:

Hannah and, Howie and someone who cares got awful quiet all of a sudden

Standing Bear, what have you done with Ed?You bring him back here right now!

[standing bear]

Why are we monogamist?

[Hannah Rebekah]

standing bear wrote:

<quoted text>I am standing bear

This is for you Standing Bear:

http://pl.youtube.com/watch...

http://pl.youtube.com/view_play_list...

[someone who cares]

standing bear wrote:

Hannah and, Howie and someone who cares got awful quiet all of a sudden

My friend came over today and we took 2 of my kids and her son and went to Chuck E Cheese for my son's birthday. He turned 11. Then we went out and shopped till we dropped. But I'm back now.

[someone who cares]

standing bear wrote:

<quoted text>I don't know ED, But he seems to be one hard headed hillbilly

LOL!

[standing bear]

someone who cares wrote:

<quoted text>
Of course the CPS maintains that position, whether they know it's true or not. Because if they don't, they will not be justified in recommending that the court maintain jurisdiction over the minors.
Even if they see proof otherwise, they will not point out the good, but only focus on the bad they may interpret or any lies that they are claiming as fact.
The Governor must maintain the position he is taking if he hopes to be reelected.But that may just backfire on him, the more truth that comes out.
And it's just as I said. The CPS has the children in the state's custody, so they have the leverage they need, the children being used as clubs that are wielded over the heads of the parents to make them jump through all the hoops they want them to.If they don't and more probably even if they
do, they will not have their children returned to them.
There will be a whole lot of happy adoptive families, making new homes for the parent's stolen children.

dito

[standing bear]

someone who cares wrote:

<quoted text>
Standing Bear, what have you done with Ed?You bring him back here right now!

What can anyone do with a hillbilly like ed?

[someone who cares]

standing bear wrote:

Time that shit head fool got her lieing tongue cut out

No, that is not a good idea.

[Hannah Rebekah]

standing bear wrote:

Funny how it's ok for gays to get married in california, But a man can have only one wife in california!!!!!!!Isn't it?

Many believe that this will benefit the polygamist so they can change the laws to their favor. Right now they can't get them on polygamy because they only marry one person in the eyes of the law and the rest are 'spiritual wives'(sorta like our shacking up) or they marry one civilly then divorce her then marry the next and divorce then...well you get the idea so the officials can't really get them for being married under the law to more and one person.

[standing bear]

Hannah Rebekah wrote:

<quoted text>
This is for you Standing Bear:
http://pl.youtube.com/watch...
http://pl.youtube.com/view_play_list...

You are wise; I WILL CALL YOU( Keen eyes}

[Hannah Rebekah]

standing bear wrote:

<quoted text>What can anyone do with a hillbilly like ed?

He's our friend...we want him back. <giggle>

[standing bear]

someone who cares wrote:

<quoted text>
No, that is not a good idea.

It always works .It's hard to lie without a tongue

[standing bear]

Hannah Rebekah wrote:

<quoted text>
Many believe that this will benefit the polygamist so they can change the laws to their favor. Right now they can't get them on polygamy because they only marry one person in the eyes of the law and the rest are 'spiritual wives'(sorta like our shacking up) or they marry one civilly then divorce her then marry the next and divorce then...well you get the idea so the officials can't really get them for being married under the law to more and one person.

Why are we momogamist,Keen eyes?

[Ava Mae Lewis]

Wyler said he was at a meeting of FLDS leaders in the '90s at which Jeffs' father, Rulon Jeffs, then the church leader, urged the church to take a proposed deal from the state to abandon under-age marriages in exchange for amnesty for any past crimes involving under-age marriages.

Warren Jeffs, who soon took control of the sect, even before his father died, rejected the deal and defiantly went on a spree of performing under-age marriages, Wyler said.

Wyler said rape follows naturally in some cases where girls as young as 13 or 14 are married to older men. "I know of cases in this town where underage girls were married to a guy and she didn't want to do anything and he forced himself on her. It's not always that way. But that's going to happen anyplace you have underage marriages," said Wyler.

Wyler said that while he was in the church, he was bothered most by the underage marriages and, even worse, underage marriages by men to their stepdaughters.

Wyler said there are occasions when an FLDS man marries a woman who already has small children, raises them up to age 13 or 14 and then marries them. "They grow up calling this man dad and then have to have sex with him," Wyler said

http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/po...

[standing bear]

Hannah Rebekah wrote:

<quoted text>
He's our friend...we want him back. <giggle>

you have many friends

[Hannah Rebekah]

standing bear wrote:

<quoted text>You are wise; I WILL CALL YOU( Keen eyes}

Thanks...I especially like the hoop dances you Indians do...
http://pl.youtube.com/watch...

[Hannah Rebekah]

standing bear wrote:

<quoted text>Why are we momogamist,Keen eyes?

I don't think I would like it if my husband had another wife...would you like it if your wife had another husband, I know my husband wouldn't like it? It would be hard.