Yep

Herrin, IL

#41 Mar 24, 2014
Economics 101 wrote:
The Harrisburg School District just made some deep cuts & they say more to come. When is Frankfort School District 168 going to face reality, get a spine & start making cuts. Frankfort District 168 is
broke.
Harrisburg super intendant also makes 400,000 a year... And there cutting student programs???? Hmmmm....
Johnny Ringo

Marion, IL

#42 Mar 25, 2014
Yep wrote:
<quoted text>
Harrisburg super intendant also makes 400,000 a year... And there cutting student programs???? Hmmmm....
You people will stop at nothing.

Dennis Smith makes 124,444 per year, and includes the BOE contribution to TRS. His take home pay is considerably less. But don't let facts get in way of your crusade.
Ken

Murphysboro, IL

#43 Mar 25, 2014
Someone come to help yep. How ignorant can you be. Call the clinic.
redbird

Marion, IL

#44 Mar 25, 2014
Ken wrote:
Someone come to help yep. How ignorant can you be. Call the clinic.
Wha??? I guess not ignorant enough.....
wow

Carbondale, IL

#45 Mar 25, 2014
Johnny Ringo wrote:
You people need to realize that if you can't afford to pay your teachers, you can't afford to have your own school. Teachers deserve a cost of living increase, just like any other professional. You clowns want them to take a pay cut? How about we ask CIPS to take a pay cut and only pay them part of the monster bill we owe from February? After all, we're operating at a deficit, right? If they cared about our school, they would wave the bill and work for free.......think, people.
HAVE U SEEN THEIR SALARIES? Majority of these teachers make over $80,000! What a joke! They should force the teachers out who are sucking our town dry and start over.
FACTS

Tampa, FL

#46 Mar 25, 2014
Frankfort district 168 is operating in the red. By millions and millions of dollars per the SI paper. So with that being said and the fact that programs are being cut and part time teachers for said programs that are being cut are being let go, does it seem reasonable that the teacher's union is pushing for raises still????? Plus let's not forget that district 168 teachers are ALREADY the highest paid in southern Illinois. Does that seem right to anybody else?????? Cause it sure as hell doesn't to me!!!
Come on

Lenexa, KS

#47 Mar 25, 2014
The contract has been approved by the board......and from what I've seen....A raise wasn't given.....nor asked for. I think the teachers understand the financial situation....Get off your hatred for teachers. And as far as the figures thrown around about teachers salary....it takes years upon years to get to that level. The newer teachers.....Withers than 20 years experience don't make near 80 grand. With that said....Most teachers are just as upset at the financial situation the district is in. They are human beings as well. No one needs to be thrown under the bus. The situation is what it is...and the sooner you accept that the better....don't for a second think that the teachers are money hungry pigs. They all have families and are working in the field that they chose. It's one of the sad situations where things.......including teachers....have to be cut...it is what it is....
Come on

Lenexa, KS

#48 Mar 25, 2014
Again...Get the facts. The board approved a contract...that includes no raise. The teachers union actually voted down a contract that included a raise....Get the facts. You deserve to know the truth. And us as tax paying citizens deserve to know what is going on. So educate yourself..and make your future decisions accordingly....just as the board and teachers will have to do
Then what

Naples, FL

#49 Mar 26, 2014
Did they get a step increase? That would be an increase of about $1500 per teacher. Technically no new money but still an increase that the district must find a revenue source.
ucme

Lombard, IL

#50 Mar 26, 2014
Then what wrote:
Did they get a step increase? That would be an increase of about $1500 per teacher. Technically no new money but still an increase that the district must find a revenue source.
TAXES!!!
Not Crazy

Carbondale, IL

#51 Mar 27, 2014
Just ask the guidance counselor why she moved to Carterville. ( to get her children a better education). Sorry for the rhetorical question. It might help if the employees had to live in the school district. Not to be confused with grew up in the district. Better school, better town, better property values and more property tax collected. Everybody would be happy. That is just one persons opinion.
What is more important

Carterville, IL

#52 Mar 27, 2014
I'm pretty positive my friend started at less than $30,000 last year. He said he would have to work until he was 68....they keep raising it I think. I think he also said they weren't asking for a raise. Either way I don't have children but I know if I did I would support the school and not throw a fit. If I did want to express my concern I would go to a meeting and not hide behind a false internet identity to feel tough. Children's education or paying a supposed added tax? What's more important?
well

Herrin, IL

#53 Mar 27, 2014
people wouldn't care to pay added taxes nor higher than average salaries if the teachers were actually doing what they were paid to do and that is 'TEACH",People wouldn't care to pay higher taxes,if the money was put to good use,something that would benefit the students,like books, a full day of school ,a full week of school.
Spending money for the super's office was very wasteful,we have no money and he wants to keep spending along with the school board.Get rid of all of them .Lets start new.
hmmmm

Marion, IL

#54 Mar 27, 2014
I believe they received their "step" which some may say isn't a raise. Unless you take into account they'll make more money next year than they did this year. Which to most of use looks and sounds like a raise, no matter how you word it.

I've always been on the side of educators/teachers. I could never do what they do. But to see how this all went down and to see so many of them now talking about how they can't believe the district had to let some of their colleagues go is just ludicrous. Where did you think they were going to pull all that money for your "step" from?

Buck up. You got what you wanted and now have to face the reality that some of your friends lost their jobs. Plain and simple.....
FACTS

Tampa, FL

#55 Mar 28, 2014
hmmmm wrote:
I believe they received their "step" which some may say isn't a raise. Unless you take into account they'll make more money next year than they did this year. Which to most of use looks and sounds like a raise, no matter how you word it.
I've always been on the side of educators/teachers. I could never do what they do. But to see how this all went down and to see so many of them now talking about how they can't believe the district had to let some of their colleagues go is just ludicrous. Where did you think they were going to pull all that money for your "step" from?
Buck up. You got what you wanted and now have to face the reality that some of your friends lost their jobs. Plain and simple.....
Yes they got a raise. Even a small raise adds up. I guess other people think they didn't get one. Now band, arts home ec and other teachers jobs have been cut and they are still operating in the red. Not to mention most of them don't even teach. Bravo District 168 and all you idiots around town with the support the teachers signs!!!!!! God people in this town are stupid!!!!!
curious

Ashburn, VA

#56 Mar 28, 2014
Did the administrators get a raise?
bystander

Ashburn, VA

#57 Mar 28, 2014
Nope
amazed

Kansas City, MO

#58 Mar 28, 2014
So many of the people that have commented act as if the teachers should be the sacrificial lambs in order for District 168 and to survive. The Superintendent and School Board are responsible for managing, budgeting and looking ahead to ensure a quality education for every child in the district. It was unforeseen how deeply the state would cut funding and there is nothing anyone can do about those decisions made in Springfield. However, when a teacher is hired and shown what they will make, based on years of experience (steps) and with continued education, they plan accordingly as this is their livelihood and EARNINGS! If you start a job and you're promised $10 an hour the first year,$10.25, the second year,$10.50, the third year and $11.00, the fourth year, would you expect to be compensated similarly the fifth year? Or would you be willing to go back and start over at $10? The steps are part of a contract that's been in existence for the life of the contract and should always be taken into account wihen planning the budget. Likewise, you want to hire a Superintendent that is knowledgeable and well equipped to handle these difficult and transitional times and thus, competitive wages come into play. Not every teacher obtains a step and therefore, those teachers have maxed out and must hope for a raise, which did not happen for teachers this year. The bitterness spoken on this thread comes from those with minimal information that feeds their personal theories. Get involved, learn what's really happening in the district and speak factually. You'd be doing a tremendous service to our community, the students and all involved...
FACTS

Tampa, FL

#59 Mar 28, 2014
amazed wrote:
So many of the people that have commented act as if the teachers should be the sacrificial lambs in order for District 168 and to survive. The Superintendent and School Board are responsible for managing, budgeting and looking ahead to ensure a quality education for every child in the district. It was unforeseen how deeply the state would cut funding and there is nothing anyone can do about those decisions made in Springfield. However, when a teacher is hired and shown what they will make, based on years of experience (steps) and with continued education, they plan accordingly as this is their livelihood and EARNINGS! If you start a job and you're promised $10 an hour the first year,$10.25, the second year,$10.50, the third year and $11.00, the fourth year, would you expect to be compensated similarly the fifth year? Or would you be willing to go back and start over at $10? The steps are part of a contract that's been in existence for the life of the contract and should always be taken into account wihen planning the budget. Likewise, you want to hire a Superintendent that is knowledgeable and well equipped to handle these difficult and transitional times and thus, competitive wages come into play. Not every teacher obtains a step and therefore, those teachers have maxed out and must hope for a raise, which did not happen for teachers this year. The bitterness spoken on this thread comes from those with minimal information that feeds their personal theories. Get involved, learn what's really happening in the district and speak factually. You'd be doing a tremendous service to our community, the students and all involved...
Fact: 80% roughly of District 168's budget goes to teacher salaries. And yes with the federal and even state government sometimes step increases are frozen if they are operating at a severe deficit. You sound like a greedy teacher that already makes too much for the job you half a$$ do. Suck it up buttercup. It is suppose to be about the kids, not you!
Johnny Ringo

Marion, IL

#60 Mar 29, 2014
FACTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact: 80% roughly of District 168's budget goes to teacher salaries. And yes with the federal and even state government sometimes step increases are frozen if they are operating at a severe deficit. You sound like a greedy teacher that already makes too much for the job you half a$$ do. Suck it up buttercup. It is suppose to be about the kids, not you!
Lol at the ignorance.
If you can't afford a COL increase, then you can't afford a school, "Buttercup."
"Amazed" hit the nail squarely on the head, and you mouthbreathers can't handle it. You do expect them to be the sacrificial lambs. They do NOT owe your kids an education. It's our responsibility to pay for it. They're doing a remarkable job (most of them) considering the material the "parents" of this town are churning out for them to work with.

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