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Furious

Marion, IL

#1 Dec 29, 2013
Did anyone see the news last night with the family of 10 getting ready to lose unemployment benefits? I feel like they could have picked a better family to focus on. If the man would have spent his money on something better than court fines and criminal issues, I might feel sorry for them. If you have a problem feeding your children, you take a job where ever you can find one! I know this family, and I am not convinced that all 8 of those kids live with them full time in the first place.
John

Benton, IL

#3 Dec 29, 2013
Furious wrote:
Did anyone see the news last night with the family of 10 getting ready to lose unemployment benefits? I feel like they could have picked a better family to focus on. If the man would have spent his money on something better than court fines and criminal issues, I might feel sorry for them. If you have a problem feeding your children, you take a job where ever you can find one! I know this family, and I am not convinced that all 8 of those kids live with them full time in the first place.
Some people think they should be able to retire on unemployment. There is jobs if people really want to work
stage 5 clinger

United States

#5 Dec 29, 2013
centralia wrote:
not the clown in sims,il
Dude, your being a weirdo. Comparing you to mikemma.
Reality Check

United States

#6 Dec 30, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text> Some people think they should be able to retire on unemployment. There is jobs if people really want to work
Nationwide, there are 3 people looking for work for every 1 job available, according to the US Department of Labor. In Illinois, the number is 4 people looking for every 1 job available.

Turn off Faux Nooz and educate yourself, rather than hate on unemployed people.
Ralph

Benton, IL

#7 Dec 30, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Nationwide, there are 3 people looking for work for every 1 job available, according to the US Department of Labor. In Illinois, the number is 4 people looking for every 1 job available.
Turn off Faux Nooz and educate yourself, rather than hate on unemployed people.
I believe unemployment insurance is a great way to help people pick their self up and move forward when they had a loss of their job. But I also know there is jobs out their if a person really wants to work. It may not be the type of work they prefer but there is work. People that wants to work will, people that don't will just set on unemployment for 99wks instead of going and getting 6 wks of retraining. Industry is begging for truck drivers, CNA's, sales people. I'm very educated in the job market. The democrat free hand out system has made people lazy!
tarponfan

Cut Off, LA

#8 Dec 30, 2013
Ralph wrote:
<quoted text> I believe unemployment insurance is a great way to help people pick their self up and move forward when they had a loss of their job. But I also know there is jobs out their if a person really wants to work. It may not be the type of work they prefer but there is work. People that wants to work will, people that don't will just set on unemployment for 99wks instead of going and getting 6 wks of retraining. Industry is begging for truck drivers, CNA's, sales people. I'm very educated in the job market. The democrat free hand out system has made people lazy!
And don't forget about the oilfield. They are always looking for people. You can go on web sites and apply. Or even the offshore boat business. You have boats working on the Great Lakes, and in the rivers you can also try out. This is a business here that if you do not live near the water that you do not even think about. The catch is the scheduling. 7 days on 7 days off, or 14 days on 7 days off. And there are other schedules, but what I am talking about here is that is the 7 days on means 7 days on the rig or boat and then 7 days off at home. You live there for that time. Working 12 hours on and off for 12 hours. This is all away from home. So this is not the type of work for those who have issues with their spouses or girlfriends. If you worried about her or him cheating on you. Don't apply.
Ralph

Benton, IL

#9 Dec 30, 2013
tarponfan wrote:
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And don't forget about the oilfield. They are always looking for people. You can go on web sites and apply. Or even the offshore boat business. You have boats working on the Great Lakes, and in the rivers you can also try out. This is a business here that if you do not live near the water that you do not even think about. The catch is the scheduling. 7 days on 7 days off, or 14 days on 7 days off. And there are other schedules, but what I am talking about here is that is the 7 days on means 7 days on the rig or boat and then 7 days off at home. You live there for that time. Working 12 hours on and off for 12 hours. This is all away from home. So this is not the type of work for those who have issues with their spouses or girlfriends. If you worried about her or him cheating on you. Don't apply.
Correct. My father n law was a captain on the Mississippi barges for 53 year. He worked 7 day a week. Two 6 hour shifts a day. 30 day on duty, 2 wks off. Made $100k a year. Only people with excuses can't find a job within 26 wks.
Heck I was out of work for a few weeks one time and picked apples. Don't laugh is was an honest job earning a honest wage. Really not to bad. For 8 hour picking I earned $200 a day. It payed more money than working at Walmart or a fast food joint.
Workmyassoff

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Dec 30, 2013
In 26 weeks you couldn't find a freakin job?? And the mother, you are a waitress, you can pick up a waitressing job anywhere! I cringed while watching this segment, seriously! What freakin possessed you to have 10 damn kids with no education or secure job, do you think the coal mines are going to take care of you forever?? Get off your dead ass and get some education and/or training so I don't have to support your baby makin ass anymore!!
Idea

United States

#12 Dec 30, 2013
Here is a novel idea, stop having kids that ya can't pay for. The tax payers should not have to foot the bill. Common sense will tell you that if you can't find a job after a few weeks of serious searching, you probably need to go back to school to learn a vocation to become marketable.
Stupid Should Hurt

United States

#13 Dec 31, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Nationwide, there are 3 people looking for work for every 1 job available, according to the US Department of Labor. In Illinois, the number is 4 people looking for every 1 job available.
Turn off Faux Nooz and educate yourself, rather than hate on unemployed people.
correct

Reading the responses in this thread is discouraging. Your statistics are correct, and anyone who passed 3rd grade arithmetic ought to be able to understand that 3 job seekers minus 1 available job equals 2 people who will remain unemployed.

The only problem with your post is that you confused people with facts, something that's rare on Topix.
man who knows

Harrisburg, IL

#14 Dec 31, 2013
Stupid Should Hurt wrote:
<quoted text>correct
Reading the responses in this thread is discouraging. Your statistics are correct, and anyone who passed 3rd grade arithmetic ought to be able to understand that 3 job seekers minus 1 available job equals 2 people who will remain unemployed.
The only problem with your post is that you confused people with facts, something that's rare on Topix.
Here is a correction for your dumba$$...
Since when is a statistic an excuse for laying on your dead ass for 5 months with 10 mouths to feed without finding a job. Hell, you might have to even RELOCATE, working families do this to make a living. I was out of work for 4 weeks, in that four weeks I had 7 job interviews and 3 job offers. Were they my dream job? Hell no, I had to work sweeping floors and cleaning up shit and puke in a nursing home for several months before I found a different job but at least I WAS WORKING.
Cowboy

Benton, IL

#15 Dec 31, 2013
Stupid Should Hurt wrote:
<quoted text>correct
Reading the responses in this thread is discouraging. Your statistics are correct, and anyone who passed 3rd grade arithmetic ought to be able to understand that 3 job seekers minus 1 available job equals 2 people who will remain unemployed.
The only problem with your post is that you confused people with facts, something that's rare on Topix.
Yep and there is to many employer discontinuing low level jobs because they are unable to fill them, or is forced to seek out illegal help to fill jobs that american's think they are to good to do.

7 million american's unemployed VS 11 million illegal aliens working in the U.S. illegally. Now tell me what figures your math comes up with. And no, the illegals is not stealing jobs that american's won't do. Americas free handout system is what make Americans lazy.
Why should anyone go to work if Obama is going to pay them to set home for 5 year. Heck that is retirement.
Reality Check

United States

#16 Jan 1, 2014
man who knows wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is a correction for your dumba$$...
Since when is a statistic an excuse for laying on your dead ass for 5 months with 10 mouths to feed without finding a job. Hell, you might have to even RELOCATE, working families do this to make a living. I was out of work for 4 weeks, in that four weeks I had 7 job interviews and 3 job offers. Were they my dream job? Hell no, I had to work sweeping floors and cleaning up shit and puke in a nursing home for several months before I found a different job but at least I WAS WORKING.
I'll type this slowly, so you can move your lips as you try and do the arithmetic. There is ONE (1) job out there for every THREE (3) people looking for work, meaning that TWO (2) people will STILL be looking for work AFTER the ONE (1) applicant is hired.

Did you have to repeat third (3rd) grade, because you failed basic arithmetic?
Reality Check

United States

#17 Jan 1, 2014
Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text> Yep and there is to many employer discontinuing low level jobs because they are unable to fill them, or is forced to seek out illegal help to fill jobs that american's think they are to good to do.
7 million american's unemployed VS 11 million illegal aliens working in the U.S. illegally. Now tell me what figures your math comes up with. And no, the illegals is not stealing jobs that american's won't do. Americas free handout system is what make Americans lazy.
Why should anyone go to work if Obama is going to pay them to set home for 5 year. Heck that is retirement.
There are 11 million illegal aliens here, TOTAL, and most of them are children, moron! How many jobs have you seen advertized in the 'help wanted' section that read, "Will fire $5/hr. cash-under-the-table, illegal alien and hire U.S. citizen. Apply at _________"?

Obama isn't paying anyone, by the way. The current legislation is simply an extension of that passed under George Bush. You'd know that, if you ever bothered to read a newspaper or listen to something besides Fox News on TV.
Cowboy

Benton, IL

#18 Jan 1, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
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There are 11 million illegal aliens here, TOTAL, and most of them are children, moron! How many jobs have you seen advertized in the 'help wanted' section that read, "Will fire $5/hr. cash-under-the-table, illegal alien and hire U.S. citizen. Apply at _________"?
Obama isn't paying anyone, by the way. The current legislation is simply an extension of that passed under George Bush. You'd know that, if you ever bothered to read a newspaper or listen to something besides Fox News on TV.
http://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-aliens-ta...
8.5 million tax paying american jobs has been lost to illegal aliens.

Just as the size of the illegal alien population can only be estimated, the number of illegal aliens working in the United States is also subject to estimation. A large share of the illegal alien population is generally accepted as being in the workforce because that is what motivates most illegal immigration. However, there are some family members, especially children of illegal aliens not in the labor force, while others may be in prison. One recent estimate by researchers at the Pew Hispanic Center puts the number of illegal aliens in the workforce at 8 million out of an overall population of 11.2 million illegal aliens, i.e., 71.4 percent.1 That estimate is generally accepted as reasonable.
FAIR's estimate of the illegal alien population in 2010 is slightly higher than that of the Pew estimate, i.e., 11.9 million. FAIR's estimate of the number of illegal aliens in the workforce — using the share estimate of the Pew study — is similarly slightly higher, i.e., about 8.5 million jobs encumbered by illegal alien workers.
Reality Check

United States

#19 Jan 1, 2014
Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text> http://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-aliens-ta...
8.5 million tax paying american jobs has been lost to illegal aliens.
Just as the size of the illegal alien population can only be estimated, the number of illegal aliens working in the United States is also subject to estimation. A large share of the illegal alien population is generally accepted as being in the workforce because that is what motivates most illegal immigration. However, there are some family members, especially children of illegal aliens not in the labor force, while others may be in prison. One recent estimate by researchers at the Pew Hispanic Center puts the number of illegal aliens in the workforce at 8 million out of an overall population of 11.2 million illegal aliens, i.e., 71.4 percent.1 That estimate is generally accepted as reasonable.
FAIR's estimate of the illegal alien population in 2010 is slightly higher than that of the Pew estimate, i.e., 11.9 million. FAIR's estimate of the number of illegal aliens in the workforce — using the share estimate of the Pew study — is similarly slightly higher, i.e., about 8.5 million jobs encumbered by illegal alien workers.
Accepting your figures as accurate for purposes of argument only, this STILL fails to answer the question of why the long-term unemployed should be punished by having their benefits terminated.
sorry

Waterloo, IL

#20 Jan 1, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Accepting your figures as accurate for purposes of argument only, this STILL fails to answer the question of why the long-term unemployed should be punished by having their benefits terminated.

What do you feel the cut-off should be ? How long is long enough?
Furious

Marion, IL

#21 Jan 1, 2014
If you are really trying to feed 8 kids, you do what you have to do. Sitting back for several weeks and waiting for the government to feed them is stupid. I know the local school offers help, and these people have family who do help. I am more than willing to help those in need, but I refuse to help those who do not help themselves first. Get out and prove to me that you want a job. My wife and I worked our butts off. I had a great job in the mines making a lot of money. I am retired now, so is my wife. i would be glad to donated funds to the right family, but I also want to know these parents are looking for work. If you made 20 bucks an hour before, that doesn't mean you will make that now. You go out, find a flipping job, feed your family, and wait for a job with better pay. It's simple!! Not everyone gets paid what they think they are worth!
Sick of deadbeats

Saint Louis, MO

#22 Jan 1, 2014
Ok there is no easier way to say this mr Obama loving reality check. If you and your baby making wife have 10 kids and in 26 weeks you can't find a job it's your own fault! Your bullshit statistics are no excuse for the lack of effort to get some type of education or training to find a job, People like you, who make excuses for these lazy ass people need your own reality check! Are you not reading the other comments about the people who actually DO find work??
Cowboy

Benton, IL

#23 Jan 1, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
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Accepting your figures as accurate for purposes of argument only, this STILL fails to answer the question of why the long-term unemployed should be punished by having their benefits terminated.
I'm 100% for helping people get on their feet. But against supporting them from the cradel to the grave. If a person is in school getting retrained, then I could support more than 26 wks unemployment.
There is to many people that waits until the last three wks before their unemployment runs out before they start looking for work. 26 wks or 99 wks they still wait until the last 3 wks.

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