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layla

United States

#1 Aug 24, 2013
Yeah. There I said it! The cherry picking, rude and obnoxious, almost vile behavior of the JFM cult following is seriously getting out of hand. In fact, it is so out of control that you are actually hurting your "cause." People are quickly becoming turned off and are beconi g desensitized.

The poor girl was suicidal from the time she was five years old. She felt alone, abandoned, and hated most of her life. She felt like nobody wanted her around. Those are HER words. Nobody messed with her phone. Nobody washed the prints off the gun. Nobody is covering up for a bottom of the totem pole emergency dispatcher.

You truly give him more credit than he deserve.

Honestly, she was already having suicidal thoughts for how long? Even that night she was. She went over there. Found him drunk/ passed out. She was already jealous from earlier in the night because he was with those chicks. She grabbed his phone, same the texts between Richie and the chick he wanted to hook up with, and she snapped.

Then again. I am not an investigator, just as y'all aren't. Let's leave that to the REAL investigators. They know what they are doing. JFM does not. Watching CSI and Court TV does not mean you know anything.

Move on.
well

Herrin, IL

#2 Aug 24, 2013
Don't like it? Then YOU move on ;)
layla

United States

#3 Aug 24, 2013
All you are doing is hurting any chance at finding out the truth. Y'all are so hateful! But whatever. I just feel bad for Molly. It is humiliating how self appointed CSI agents behave themselves. Bah!
Uhhh John A

Johnston City, IL

#4 Aug 24, 2013
The Molly support gang is pulling at straws. Hateful people who refuse to see the ALL the facts.
jfm

Murphysboro, IL

#5 Aug 25, 2013
I agree with (well) if you don't like it then move on...that pos Richie killed Molly and for those of you that don't think so you're retarded
layla

United States

#6 Aug 25, 2013
Typical JFM supporter you are, JFM. You can't say anything worthy of reading and resort to name calling. You have no ideas, no clue about the laws. You are thinking with your passioned heart. You want to believe what you have been indoctrinated with, and you are probably such a kind person.....but just can't think for yourself. A true follower. It is OK. There are many more just like yourself.
BTW...calling someone a "retard" is a horrible thing to say to someone. It is not only juvenile, but is really insensitive to a beautiful part of society. I sure hope you grow up and stop calling people that name.
jfm all the way

Zeigler, IL

#7 Aug 26, 2013
If he is so innocent then tell me this.. He had blood spatter on the bottom of his pajama shorts if he was in bed asleep how did this happen? And also why was there a police office there at 7 am taking about homicide when they didn't even call 911 till 9 am...
Cameltow

Johnston City, IL

#8 Aug 26, 2013
layla wrote:
Yeah. There I said it! The cherry picking, rude and obnoxious, almost vile behavior of the JFM cult following is seriously getting out of hand. In fact, it is so out of control that you are actually hurting your "cause." People are quickly becoming turned off and are beconi g desensitized.
The poor girl was suicidal from the time she was five years old. She felt alone, abandoned, and hated most of her life. She felt like nobody wanted her around. Those are HER words. Nobody messed with her phone. Nobody washed the prints off the gun. Nobody is covering up for a bottom of the totem pole emergency dispatcher.
You truly give him more credit than he deserve.
Honestly, she was already having suicidal thoughts for how long? Even that night she was. She went over there. Found him drunk/ passed out. She was already jealous from earlier in the night because he was with those chicks. She grabbed his phone, same the texts between Richie and the chick he wanted to hook up with, and she snapped.
Then again. I am not an investigator, just as y'all aren't. Let's leave that to the REAL investigators. They know what they are doing. JFM does not. Watching CSI and Court TV does not mean you know anything.
Move on.
I agree whole heartedly. Molly had issues and her family is struggling too. We should be supportive of the Family, but not Spiteful people who refuse to see ALL the facts like JFM Troops. Molly killed herself. I'm not buying the cover up and corruption card that JFM plays at each round
layla

United States

#9 Aug 28, 2013
I know. I can't imagine their pain. But, the JFM crew aren't helping matters at all. Creating things in their head that aren't there only hurts them more.
Cameltow

Overland Park, KS

#10 Aug 28, 2013
layla wrote:
I know. I can't imagine their pain. But, the JFM crew aren't helping matters at all. Creating things in their head that aren't there only hurts them more.
So True. So True.
Confusing

United States

#11 Aug 28, 2013
I am really confused at why people keep calling JFM supporters a hate group/cult?! Have any of you seen a real hate group/cult? Do know the actions of hate groups/cult if you have? And how is that comparable to JFM group? The group isnt desensitizing the matter at hand either! Im not saying there havent been people leave but they arent leaving because what they believed changed. They are leaving because people take these matters too personal and get their feelings hurt!

The inquest is public information! If you havent read it you should! Maybe you will have a better understanding of whats going on. People arent creating things ...its in black and white! Between the inquest and police reports every accusation is in writing! Without this group and people demanding an investigation(a real investigation) this might have never come to light! I hope that a thing like this never happens to the people who are so angry over getting answers! Its almost as if your taking it personal...kinda strange!
layla

Nixa, MO

#12 Aug 28, 2013
Confusing wrote:
I am really confused at why people keep calling JFM supporters a hate group/cult?! Have any of you seen a real hate group/cult? Do know the actions of hate groups/cult if you have? And how is that comparable to JFM group? The group isnt desensitizing the matter at hand either! Im not saying there havent been people leave but they arent leaving because what they believed changed. They are leaving because people take these matters too personal and get their feelings hurt!
The inquest is public information! If you havent read it you should! Maybe you will have a better understanding of whats going on. People arent creating things ...its in black and white! Between the inquest and police reports every accusation is in writing! Without this group and people demanding an investigation(a real investigation) this might have never come to light! I hope that a thing like this never happens to the people who are so angry over getting answers! Its almost as if your taking it personal...kinda strange!
I personally have read all 109 pages of the inquest and followed the investigation from day one. I also have an education in the legal field specializing in cases just like this. I don't take what the group says personally. It makes no difference to me. But, it does to Molly. However, what I find alarming is that any differing opinion on here, Facebook, or other public forum, sets the JFM members into a tizzy. The JFM following has become a cult in that they are following what other people tell them to think. I doubt the entire group has read, and actually understood ALL the evidence at hand, including the inquest. The statements in the inquest for not support most of the "evidence" that is presented in the JFM group.

Not to mention the rush the JFM following wants to place on Carr. There isn't a case that any jury would convict Minton on, beyond a reasonable doubt. Hr would be acquitted. Any lawyer, good or bad, coukd create reasonable doubt in the jury's mind without a moment of hesitation. If you don't want an acquittal, and you want true justice, you would STOP with the constant antics.
We all want answers. Right?
OverTheEdge

Marion, IL

#13 Aug 29, 2013
So, you`ve read the entire inquest and formed your opinion. That is your right, just as it is my opinion that there needs to be a more thorough investigation into the matter.

Had there been such and had the CPD performed in a professional and impartial manner from the start, we wouldn`t be debating this topic.
Confusing

United States

#14 Aug 29, 2013
Who gets in a tizzy? Have you had contact with all 23000 members?! Or just the few dozen that frequent the site? Do you know the opinion of everyone? Have you personally talked to all the members to know they are following as if it were a.cult?

You have formed a very jaded opinion of the this group! Nothing of what you say is factual! I personally support Molly and getting justice. I however dont support her family nor follow everything they say! This is about the injustice done from the very beginning of this case! It deserves a fair investigation no matter the outcome. And when I think of antics I make reference to your first post!! Antics...foolish,outrageous, or amusing behavior...overall childish and uncalled for!
layla wrote:
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I personally have read all 109 pages of the inquest and followed the investigation from day one. I also have an education in the legal field specializing in cases just like this. I don't take what the group says personally. It makes no difference to me. But, it does to Molly. However, what I find alarming is that any differing opinion on here, Facebook, or other public forum, sets the JFM members into a tizzy. The JFM following has become a cult in that they are following what other people tell them to think. I doubt the entire group has read, and actually understood ALL the evidence at hand, including the inquest. The statements in the inquest for not support most of the "evidence" that is presented in the JFM group.
Not to mention the rush the JFM following wants to place on Carr. There isn't a case that any jury would convict Minton on, beyond a reasonable doubt. Hr would be acquitted. Any lawyer, good or bad, coukd create reasonable doubt in the jury's mind without a moment of hesitation. If you don't want an acquittal, and you want true justice, you would STOP with the constant antics.
We all want answers. Right?
jfm all the way

United States

#15 Aug 29, 2013
I've read the inquest more once the only thing to point if toward Molly taking her own life is the so called suicide notes... Explain to me how IF he were TUCKED into bed he got blood and residue on his shorts? also they are using the last txt messages from her phone as time of death ! WHO'S TO SAY THE TXT MESSAGES WAS HER TEXTING HAS ANYONE EVER THOUGHT SHE WAS ALREADY DEAD AND RM WAS SENDING THOSE MESSAGES TO TRY AND COVER HIS A$$?
layla

United States

#16 Aug 29, 2013
Tizzy. Tizzy. Nothing anyone says or does will be good enough. A special prosecutor has now been brought in. When the same conclusions are drawn, JFM will continue to complain.

The answers to your questions are in the inquest.

Alleged injustice. Alleged botched investigation. Alleged "evidence." The group as a whole, is probably full of wonderful people that mean well. However, one doesn't have to spend a lot of time on a news FB page, or on Herr to see the venom that several spit. Including a news story on a recently deceased man in Jackson CTY who was honored with a vigil by his family and friends. But, instead of wishing his family thoughts and prayers, at least a dozen or more had to spew out careless and reckless words about how the vigil should have been for Molly. How the story should have been about Molly. It was tacky and vile .

Are my opinions jaded? Haha. No, I just see things for what they are. But hey, keep following. Hopefully one day the 23,000 CSI agents who got their degrees from sitting on their rumpus' watching a TV show will open up a law book on evidence and criminal procedures... heck, even The Constitution of The United States would be a start! If you want justice for Molly, I'll say it again, stop trying to make more of this than what it is. Let the people in charge if the investigation do their JOBS! You all give the Minton's too much credit. It isn't like he was high up on the totem pole, nor are his dad's contacts. This isn't some conspiracy. It is an investigation. That is a hard one to solve. Why? It says word for word in the inquest. I don't see how so many people have claimed to read it yet come up with different conclusions. It cracks me up.
Confusing

United States

#17 Aug 29, 2013
Im honestly not sure who your replying to but you contradict yourself a lot and you keep saying things as if you are replying to me but it doesnt make since! I have made no mention of Minton,botched investigation etc. What I see is you, trying really hard to sound like you know what your talking about and making judgements! Not once have you heard me make any assumptions or give my opinion on what I think did or didnt happen! You however have done it over and over again. Who sounds like their trying to be an investigator? And you spread just as much venom and obviously spend just as much time as the next person on the jfm page...isnt that the pot calling the kettle black?! And its easy for many different people to read one thing and take from it different things! Why was there page after page of old journal entries? How was it relavent? God for bid anything like this ever happens to someone your close to. Would your OPINION stay the same?!
layla

United States

#18 Aug 29, 2013
Lol. Funny. If you only knew...
layla

United States

#19 Aug 29, 2013
My comments are "in general." My thoughts usually are made after more than one comment. If something I say is directed at a person directly, Confusion, I will use a name. However, since you aren't the only one commenting, my thoughts sometimes combine another's.

CSI? No. Common sense. Yes. I don't think with my heart, I think with my brain. I am on the outside, looking in, with my brain. That's all.

We all have our own heartache. Including me. Which is why I do understand the family, and feel sorry for them. Which is also why I am taking a stand against the tactics of some loud mouthed members of JFM. They are only hurting the "cause" and looking foolish in the course of things. I forbid to join the group, although I was placed in the group by several parties. And left.
Confusing

United States

#20 Aug 29, 2013
Why do you feel so sorry for the family?

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